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Product Details

  • Series: Ringworld
  • Hardcover: 320 pages
  • Publisher: Tor Books (August 21, 2012)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0765331004
  • ISBN-13: 978-0765331007
  • Product Dimensions: 9.6 x 6.4 x 1.4 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (111 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #376,289 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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”Widescreen galactic scope, nifty super-science, crafty aliens, corporate corruption and cover-ups, and a multileveled spy vs. spy vs. spy mystery...a first-class example of pure SF entertainment.”
—SF Site on Juggler of Worlds

“Exceptional freshness and suspense…full of startling revelations about human and puppeteer politics.”
 —Booklist

“A new Known Space book, particularly one with new information about Puppeteers and their doings behind the scenes of human history, needs recommending within the science fiction community about as much as a new Harry Potter novel does, well, anywhere. But Niven and Lerner have produced a novel that can stand on its own as well as part of the Known Space franchise.”
—Locus

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Praise for the Fleet of Worlds series

"Exceptional freshness and suspense ... full of startling revelations about human and puppeteer politics."
-- Booklist

"A new Known Space book, particularly one with new information about Puppeteers and their doings behind the scenes of human history, needs recommending within the science fiction community about as much as a new Harry Potter novel does -- well, anywhere. But Niven and Lerner have produced a novel that can stand on its own as well as part of the Known Space franchise."
-- Locus

"A far-future SF mystery/adventure set two centuries before the discovery of the Ringworld by humans ... Intriguing human and alien characters and lucid scientific detail."
-- Library Journal

"A very worthy addition to the ongoing Known Space future history."
-- SciFi.com

"Larry Niven and Edward M. Lerner have teamed up to write the prequel [to Ringworld], and it's well worth reading whether you've read Ringworld and its subsequent books or not."
-- SFRevu.com

"As we have long expected from Niven, it's a great read, and Lerner -- as Analog readers know -- has the knack as well. You'll enjoy this one."
-- Analog Science Fiction and Fact

Praise for the Works of Larry Niven

"The premier hard SF writer of the day."
-- The Baltimore Sun

"Great storytelling is still alive in science fiction because of Larry Niven."
-- Orson Scott Card

"For three and a half decades, nobody's done it better than Larry Niven."
-- Steven Barnes

Praise for Edward M. Lerner

"Lerner's world-building and extrapolating are top notch."
-- SFScope on InterstellarNet: Origins

"A fast, fun read."
-- Sci Fi Weekly on Fools' Experiments

"Suspense and action enough to fuel any thriller, and even to drive it to the big screen."
-- SFRevu on Small Miracles

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Customer Reviews

In either case, the book stands on its own merit and is a good read.
Matthew R. Lieber
Good ending, as well; I found the ending to be plausible and consistent with the story line.
MNPhysics
The book cannot possibly be the end-all to both series, as the ending leaves too much open.
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74 of 74 people found the following review helpful By Amazon Customer on September 6, 2012
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First, let me say that I enjoyed this book and think it is a good and appropriately epic, if still open-ended, end to the Ringworld and Fleet of Worlds series. The only thing that I disliked was that the two main story lines stayed very separate from each other and did not feel connected. I wanted to read them both, but, as it was, it read a bit more like two separate stories that were being told in the same book, rather than a single story with multiple viewpoints. Again, since this is Niven and Lerner, both stories are great, so the overall experience is great and the book is rewarding.

I also felt like it could be a stand alone book, but, to get the full enjoyment from it, you should read the previous Fleet of Worlds books (at least Destroyer and Betrayer) and the Ringworld books (at least Ringworld's Children).

I find it handy to have the series information available in the review and it can be hard to really see on the Amazon site, here is a snippet from Wikipedia, showing the order of the books in the Fleet of Worlds series and the Ringworld series:

Fleet of Worlds (2007)
Juggler of Worlds (2008)
Destroyer of Worlds (2009)
Betrayer of Worlds (2010)
Fate of Worlds

Ringworld (1970)
The Ringworld Engineers (1980)
The Ringworld Throne (1996)
Ringworld's Children (2004)

Additionally, there is all of Known Space in Niven's list of works and a number of those contain the original stories that are rehashed in Fleet of Worlds and other fun and fantastic stories that fill the Known Space universe to the brim.
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17 of 17 people found the following review helpful By James D. DeWitt VINE VOICE on September 16, 2012
Format: Hardcover
For more than 40 years, Larry Niven has been writing Known Space stories. Fate of Worlds: Return from the Ringworld reaches back to plot threads from some of the very earliest short stories and, like the earlier Fleet of World stories, weaves them into the tale of what happened after the conclusion of Ringworld's Children and the plot twists at the end of Betrayer of Worlds (Fleet of Worlds). It's an okay story, although the ending has been telegraphed by "Ringworld's Children." But it's absolutely not the place to start exploring Known Space.

As told in Niven's Ringworld's Children, the Ringworld is gone, snatched from the increasingly dangerous Fringe War before it might have been destroyed. Louis Wu and the Puppeteer we know as Hindmost escaped (or perhaps were permitted to escape). The various species involved in the Fringe War, frustrated by the disappearance of the prize, turn their collective attention instead to the Puppeteers' migration, the Fleet of Worlds, with deadly intent. And the Puppeteers themselves are weakened and divided, as well as famously being cowards.

It's a possible conclusion to both the Ringworld series and the Fleet of Worlds series, although it doesn't have to be. And while it suffers from some logical flaws and more than a bit of ret-conning, on the whole it is a satisfactory, if not surprising, conclusion.
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31 of 36 people found the following review helpful By wbentrim VINE VOICE on August 31, 2012
Format: Hardcover
Fate of Worlds by Larry Niven and Edward M. Lerner

I read Ringworld in the early 1970's and frankly I know I liked it as I ranked it as an E for excellent in my book database but beside the basic premise, I don't remember a great deal. This book would have served me better 20 years ago. As is it gathers together the characters from several books and a couple of series and attempts tie them together under the label of the Known Earth Series.

Frankly I'm not sure this was a wrap up and not a precursor to a new series. The number of variables, races, venues and philosophies strains my recollection. I have only read 28 of Niven's books and have uniformly enjoyed them. Sadly I didn't really enjoy this because I have just enough recollection of the players but have trouble remembering the game they played. Some reviews I read stated it stands alone well, I would disagree and feel at least brushing up on the precursors would make the book more compelling.

I would recommend either going to Wikipedia and brushing up on background or tracking down all the books and reading them.
From Wikpedia:
* 1970: Ringworld
* 1980: The Ringworld Engineers
* 1996: The Ringworld Throne
* 2004: Ringworld's Children
* 2012: Fate of Worlds (by Niven and Edward M. Lerner)
Five prequels have been written, set in the same Ringworld universe, and written in collaboration:
* 1988-2009: Man-Kzin Wars (by various edited by Niven)
* 2007-2011: Fleet of Worlds (by Niven and Edward M. Lerner)
* 2008-2009: Juggler of Worlds (by Niven and Edward M. Lerner)
* 2009-2010: Destroyer of Worlds (by Niven and Edward M. Lerner)
* 2010-2011: Betrayer of Worlds (by Niven and Edward M. Lerner)

I did enjoy the books when I read them and if it had been more recently I am sure I would have enjoyed this book more. I do recommend the Niven style of creating warm, memorable characters.
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