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Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility [Mass Market Paperback]

James P. Carse
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August 12, 1987
An extraordinary book that will dramatically change the way you experience life.
Finite games are the familiar contests of everyday life, the games we play in business and politics, in the bedroom and on the battlefied -- games with winners and losers, a beginning and an end. Infinite games are more mysterious -- and ultimately more rewarding. They are unscripted and unpredictable; they are the source of true freedom.
In this elegant and compelling work, James Carse explores what these games mean, and what they can mean to you. He offers stunning new insights into the nature of property and power, of culture and community, of sexuality and self-discovery, opening the door to a world of infinite delight and possibility.
"An extraordinary little book . . . a wise and intimate companion, an elegant reminder of the real."
-- Brain/Mind Bulletin


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About the Author

James P. Carse is Professor Emeritus of history and literature of religion at New York University. A winner of the University’s Great Teacher Award, he is author of The Religious Case Against Belief (2008) and Breakfast at the Victory: The Mysticism of Ordinary Experience (1994). Carse lives in New York City and Massachusetts. --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

Product Details

  • Mass Market Paperback: 192 pages
  • Publisher: Ballantine Books; First Edition edition (August 12, 1987)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0345341848
  • ISBN-13: 978-0345341846
  • Product Dimensions: 6.7 x 4.1 x 0.6 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 3.2 ounces
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (58 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #210,422 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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85 of 88 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Practically a unified-field theory of human relationships December 21, 2001
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Professor Carse writes in the first chapter, "There are at least two kinds of games. One could be called finite, the other infinite. A finite game is played for the purpose of winning, an infinite game for the purpose of continuing the play." From that beginning he broadly defines "game" in a way that includes, defines, and lays an analytical foundation for all relationships. The book's subtitle is "A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility," and it is a profound work, practically a unified-field theory of human relationships.

For example, the book contains an interesting theory about sexuality, as being either a finite game (§§ 54-59) or an infinite game (§§ 60-62). The contrast between perceiving sexual relationships as finite or infinite is startling. On a broader (yet surprisingly even more personal) level, in his chapter titled "A Finite Game Occurs Within a World" (ch. 4), Carse explores the individual's struggle with defining, regarding, and regulating the world around oneself in a way that includes everyone around one, or just oneself alone.

The first step in appreciating this book is understanding that any relationship or process can be characterized in "finite" or "infinite" terms. The second step is recognizing that that characterization is almost always a matter of choice and that, by choosing to characterize a relationship as "infinite," one can redefine it in a meaningful and healthy way. After reading this book, you may never look at the world around you, or at any relationship, or at yourself in quite the same way. This book reconfigures thinking about interpersonal reality as deeply as Kuhn's "Structure of Scientific Revolutions" reconfigured thinking about the scientific method.

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39 of 40 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility March 26, 2004
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The subtitle of this book is "A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility." This puts quite succinctly what this project is all about. Carse creates a number of distinctions through which he interprets life: finite and infinite games, society and culture, gardens and machines. Throughout, he comes again and again to reminders of choice and possibility. He reminds us that the games we play we choose to play, that we choose to assume our roles, that our society is a collective choice. He points to the ways that we mask these choices from ourselves and provides the insight we need to be aware of our self-veiling.

This is what philosophy should be like. It is philosophical poetry. One of the most unique aspects of the book is that nowhere does Carse attack another view or provide a first principles defense of his own view. He provides a vision, helps us reinterpret the world, and then lets the insight it provides be its own defense. The following quote from the text reflects much on Carse's project:

"Storytellers do not convert their listeners; they do not move them into the territory of a superior truth. Ignoring the issue of truth and falsehood altogether, they offer only vision. Storytelling is therefore not combative; it does not succeed or fail. A story cannot be obeyed. Instead of placing one body of knowledge against another, storytellers invite us to return from knowledge to thinking, from a bounding way of looking to an horizonal way of seeing." (sec 78)

Perhaps Carse cannot succeed in his project, but certainly his vision is compelling.

Robert Pirsig is quoted on the back cover: "Normally we add new facts to existing knowledge. But once in a while a book like this comes along and does just the opposite - it adds a new pattern of knowledge to existing facts. The result is striking." This is perhaps as good a recommendation as I could give. The book is short and divided into short sections. It is an easy read, even if you take it slow. Reading this book is taking a journey you won't regert.

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27 of 28 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Ripe, but a little game-y :) December 26, 2002
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In a way, this book fulfills Wittgenstein's prediction that the philosophy of the future will be written as a poetic composition. Whether that's good or bad for philosophy, well...

I wouldn't call "Finite and Infinite Games" a 'willful complication of thought,' as one reviewer put it; if it is, it is only in the sense that new ways of looking at the world seem complicated at first. That said, Carse's enthusiasm for his concept of finite and infinite games tends to get the better of him, inasmuch as he is often too quick to file phenomena into either the 'finite' category or the 'infinite' category, when a more subtle approach would be appropriate. But, as I said, this is more poetry than science.

Which is not to say that Carse's book is useless, or 'metaphysical': in fact, I found it to be one of the more profound books I've ever read, if only for the many startling thoughts contained in it. Carse's treatments of sexuality, the unspeakability of nature, indeed, the whole idea of an infinite activity, all resonated with me, if not for their truth, then for the possibility of their truth.

Possibility, in fact, is a major theme of this book: as Carse puts it: "Who must play cannot play." Which means, you have a lot more freedom than you think, if you are aware of the customary nature of human activities and how their boundaries can be played with. One doesn't have infinite power; indeed, infinite players, according to Carse, do not seek power as an end but only as a means to continuing play. How much truth there is in such a claim I leave to the reader, where it is sure to be much more lively.

In short, read this book, be captivated by it, but don't expect any final answers.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Great Book...
This book is well worth the money, wonderful book on the construction of time, game theory, and how we construct wants desires and constructs of time.
Published 1 month ago by Richard Whelan
5.0 out of 5 stars Quick delivery, quick read (and re-read)
This book has profoundly influenced my thinking and perception of life and the "games" I play within it. Read more
Published 2 months ago by Shaun Crump
5.0 out of 5 stars Power and Freedom
There are wonderful elegances in this book, Finite and Infinite Games, by James P. Carse. The first elegance is his writing style: laying out straightforward premises and... Read more
Published 2 months ago by James Neville
4.0 out of 5 stars Nice look at the world
I didn't study philosophy - I got this book on a recommendation. It gives an interesting way of thinking about yourself and your pursuits and the relationship between a person and... Read more
Published 3 months ago by The Ryan Abrams
5.0 out of 5 stars Profound ideas
This book has had a deep effect on me. I cannot stop thinking about so many of its ideas, such as: the differences between playing 'within' or 'with' boundaries; of meeting someone... Read more
Published 4 months ago by Jane North
5.0 out of 5 stars A Paradigm Changer
I owned this book once before, lost it, and now I'm happy to own it once again! This is not a quick read, so be prepared to think, but f you give this short book the attention it... Read more
Published 5 months ago by Bill R.
1.0 out of 5 stars Not worth the time
I love philosophy and am intrigued by it. Sometimes though, I am reminded of Mel Brooks the standup philosopher in "History of the World Part III" ... Read more
Published 8 months ago by Joseph R. Richer
5.0 out of 5 stars Zen games
If you like a heavy dose of zen in a short book, this will be a great read. Read a page, reread the page it goes deep if you can. Read more
Published 18 months ago by G. Hisel
1.0 out of 5 stars Vague Psycho-babble
An awful lot of the reviewers for this book are greatly impressed by it. All this book does is let the reader try to figure out what this book is about. Read more
Published 20 months ago by ratbiker
5.0 out of 5 stars My favorite book of all time
As a nonreligious person, this book is the closest thing I have to a Bible or Quran. Carse presents his elegant theory of human experience, relationships and purpose in prose that... Read more
Published 20 months ago by Carsie
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