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French III, 2nd Edition (Pimsleur Language Program)

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It's too bad that the cost of the Pimsleur system almost makes it prohibitive to use, because it really is an excellent system. Pimsleur Level III continues the approach of focusing on a basic, high-frequency vocabulary and engaging the listener in using what he or she has learned. I have acquired quite a few cassette learning systems in my attempt to learn French on my own and the Pimsleur approach is probably my favorite. Because virtually all of my time is spent while driving, I very much appreciate that I don't have to refer to a book and that I'm not constantly rewinding a tape.

I also appreciate that it is about as interactive as a cassette tape can be ... the listener responds with material that he or she has learned in prior tapes and gradually and solidly acquires a substantial number of language building blocks. Although there is repetition, it is varied and subtle, and is not the mind-dulling lists of phrases, vocabulary or sentences that seems to be the norm in the language tape business.

It is important, however, to place the Pimsleur system in context: if you want to understand the theory of the grammatical rules of what you are learning, you must find that elsewhere. For example, if you'd like to see the rules on how present tense "-er" verbs are conjugated, that's not here. You would in fact be learning to do it, but you wouldn't "see" it on paper or read the rules on how it's done. Or if you want to increase your skill in understanding a native speaker talking a full speed, that's not its strength either. But, if you want to develop a working command of some core phrases and vocabulary that will be yours and stick with you, there is no better approach.

Let's put it this way: I was sorry when I finished it and I wish there were a Level IV, V, VI .... and so on.

I've tried a lot of different methods for learning French over the years, and while I have made steady progress, it was pretty haphazard. I agree with the other reviewers that this course is not the only instruction you need, but in my opinion it's a must have. The Pimsleur courses give you the strong foundation in understanding and speaking the language that you can then leverage to fill in the gaps in grammer and vocabulary.

This course is the closest I have seen to the method that children follow to learn their native language. My two year old has no idea what a verb is, but he can communicate in well formed sentences using the correct tense and pronouns, because he has learned through aural feedback what the correct structure should be.

Pimsleur courses immerse you in the language to the extent that you will learn by hearing and speaking. Kind of like you know that if I were to say "He was learned to speak French" that it just sounds wrong. Now I may not be able to tell you which grammatical rules I broke, but I know it should be "He was learning to speak French."

The bottom line, is that these courses give you a great start that helps you advance more quickly through your more formal study and coversational practice with native speakers. The material is fun and never boring. Great for filling in your morning commute.

Bon Chance!

I have purchased all three Pimsleur series and believe they are some of the best out there to help one learn to speak French. I would recommend them to anyone and have purchased the German series for my wife. By the time you have finished, you can actually speak and understand some of the language. I also think that it is necessary to couple this series with either lessons or a formal course to learn the why's of what you are doing and to see the vocabulary written out. I found that combining this series with the Barron's series improves one even faster. However, Barron's requires the use of a book and Pimsleur can be done in your car without any supplemental reading material. For me, the Pimsleur series was the best I have run into for learing a language from scratch.

I bought this course because of all the great reviews it got, but although I found it helpful, it didn't improve dramatically my level of French. What you are taught, you are taught well, but given the expense, I would have expected to learn sigificantly more of the language.
If you have money to burn and want to learn French, buy it. But if you don't have bottomless pockets, you'd be better off getting the likes of the Michel Thomas CDs and the Living Language courses, which provide way more information about the French language, which is far more complex than the Pimsleur course allows for. And they are much better value.

I got this set from my library, for free, which is what I'd recommend others do as the price is ridiculous for what you get. I have had several years of formal university-level French, and try to keep up with occasional conversation classes at Alliance Francaise, etc. I got this to brush up on listening/pronunciation for an upcoming trip, as I haven't spoken French much or used it for a while. That is context for my review, which is that these discs were much more limited and basic in their content than I expected, and I gather this is their top level (there is no French IV).

I don't believe anyone who says they learn to speak French solely through Pimsleur. I think we must have very different ideas as to what "speaking" a language means. Sure, you could parrot a few basic phrases, but have little understanding of grammar, conjugation, or even what you are saying or how to spell or read it. Pimsleur focuses on some topics which are not of particular importance, either, and beats them to death. For example, they are obsessed with people being engineers for some reason and have many lessons devoted to saying so-and-so is an engineer. This is not something I have ever had to say in France. I know this is a Pimsleur obsession as I have also used their Spanish I-II sets (I don't know Spanish as well as French), and they spend a lot of time talking about engineers on those discs, also.

They are also obsessed on the first few lessons of this set with the phrase "I was raised in .... wherever." Okay, maybe that's something someone might want to know, but they go on and on with this phrasing for several lessons (so far, I haven't finished). That isn't usually what people ask you in France, or what you want to say -- they may ask where you are from (right now), not where you were raised as a child.

I don't think Pimsleur really translates some of the things they teach on their discs correctly, either, they paraphrase. Sometimes this is okay, and sometimes it isn't necessary, as a correct translation of what they are really saying would be more instructive and useful to know. This is another reason I don't think you can learn French very well from these discs, because they aren't accurate as to what they are saying.

In some ways, the dialogue often seems like they are gearing it to business travelers, as Berlitz does, rather than what I guess is their main target (regular vacationers).

I can understand these folks on this disc as I've had several years of real French classes and have travelled to France, but for the level this set is (which is perhaps around the end of the first year of a regular year-long French class in a regular school), the woman, in particular, speaks very quickly and I think would be hard for many to understand. I think it is inappropriate for this level of language lessons to have someone speaking that fast.

This language learning CD is aimed at the notoriously very difficult to assess and highly variable "intermediate" level...where performance in one area such as grammar may be far ahead or behind other areas such as pronunciation and vocabulary. This is very characteristic of the asymmetrical performance of the "intermediate" group.

The course is a good product, no doubt., but it is extremely overpriced particularly in the context of it having 6 levels you can potentially purchase, 1a, 1b, 2a, etc.

A better choice would be to rent this from places such as Recorded Books.

I went through French I and II and thought were very good. I just started volume III and I'm not sure I can continue. I have the 1998 edition and I have to say they chose the worst speakers they could find.

The female speaker (Carpenter) talks like an old lady in a high pitch voice like she's always screaming. The male speaker (DeRobert) varies his speech that you think he is trying to over act a play or trying to win a reading contest. He sometimes does not fully pronounce the words. The French instructor speaker (Clement) is very good though.

It's a huge difference from volume I and II. If you;re getting volume III, get a different edition with different speakers. For me, I might just sell this one on eBay and get a new edition because the speakers are too annoying and can't learn much.

Bookchip version is better and easier to use, ( 3 bookchips compared to 52 cds) I bought bookchips and cds, send cds back. Buy Bookchip (Audiofy Bookchip) instead.

The reviewer from Ireland expressed it well. What you are taught, you are taught well, but for the price you should expect to be taught much more.

The FSI courses, althought they can be boring, are much better value.