84 of 89 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Garmin 510 is better than other reviewers mention
First off, I felt the need to leave a review on the Garmin 510 (with HR, Cadence, & extra out front mount) for several reasons. Many of the reviews here on Amazon can often be misleading- I will explain. I was debating between getting the 500 bundle or even 800 at a lower price since the release of the 510 & 810, but here is why I didn't. The Edge 510 bundle comes with...
Published 5 months ago by jbpeddler
308 of 316 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Do not upgrade from Edge 500
First of all, I've been using Amazon for several years and bought countless number of products and I've been always happy. This is the first time I'm writing a review, because I'd like to warn other users before making a mistake I did.
I've been using Garmin Edge 500 for almost 2 years and I simply love it. It's small, accurate and never failed me. One of the...
Published 8 months ago by Bart N.
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308 of 316 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Do not upgrade from Edge 500,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer (Electronics)First of all, I've been using Amazon for several years and bought countless number of products and I've been always happy. This is the first time I'm writing a review, because I'd like to warn other users before making a mistake I did.
I've been using Garmin Edge 500 for almost 2 years and I simply love it. It's small, accurate and never failed me. One of the reasons I wanted to upgrade was to have a bigger screen (I was excited about 10 fields per screen 510 offers). Another and the most important reason was support for GLONASS system (500 on a few occasions wasn't too accurate in canyons or forests) and I was hoping to have a better GPS signal. The fact that 810 doesn't come with GLONASS was the reason I chose 510 (otherwise I'd go with 810). This still puzzles me as to why Garmin decided not to include GLONASS in 810.
As soon as the package arrived, I eagerly unpacked it and realized that the device was larger than I thought. I connected it to my computer to transfer my old profile and the first thing I noticed was that it had less free space on the device. 500 has about 50MB while 510 has only 22MB and some of that is taken by the system files leaving around 17MB. Garmin, really?! How much would it cost to add more flash memory? 50 cents? Just to give you some idea - a typical longer ride with 1 second recording takes about 500Kb-1MB. It's convenient to keep a few rides on the device before uploading to the computer. When I researched this issue I found out that some users were unable to update software, because the updated would take 9MB space and it wasn't enough... Note taken, but it was still manageable.
I had set up the device, created two bike profiles and went for a test ride, which happened to be my commute next morning. And this is when the sky fell. The screen is totally unusable in the sunlight. I was like, I must have screwed up something, this cannot be. I turned on the backlight permanently at maximum setting and yet it wasn't light enough to get the same contrast as my old 500. Then I realized two issues. First of all, the new screen has less sharper font, because it has a color screen and practically the resolution is lower than 500 and secondly it uses a different technology which is more susceptible to daylight. I live in California where we have 300+ sunny days in a year and 510 simply sucks. That was a big disappointment. I tried various settings, changing angle, etc. Still not as good as my old 500. Same data field, in a 8-field screen setup, is less readable than on 500. If you actually look as to why, you will see that Garmin decided to use larger font for labels, which wasted a lot of space and left actual numbers smaller and less readable. This whole color screen is a BS. It doesn't allow any customization and simple degrades readability. For instance, I'd love to set up different colors for different power/heart zones. It'd be cool to see I'm exceeding my power threshold just by looking at different text/background color. Apparently, Garmin engineers thought it was a better idea to use color primarily for the grid lines...
Like it was not enough, after my ride back home, I carefully compared elevation profiles between 510 and 500. 510 showed twice as much elevation gain on the same route and when I zoomed in, some segments had a bumpy line where I'd normally expect a flat line (50% of my commute is at sea level). Sorry Garmin, another epic failure. It's hard to understand why it would be worse than the old generation. Again, I found some users complaining about the very same reason and it didn't surprise me.
I'm sending my Garmin back to Amazon thanks to the great return policy and I advice anyone who is considering buying 510 to think twice. Don't make the same mistake as I did.
Garmin, please wake up.
77 of 78 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Great potential, but too many bugs currently.,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer with Heart Rate Monitor and GSC 10 Speed/Cadence Sensor (Electronics)As an owner of the 500, I upgraded because I live in San Francisco and do urban rides in which its hard to maintain GPS coverage, the GLONASS was a strong selling point to me.
-GLONASS works as advertised, pick up GPS FAST, even in the middle of downtown SF.
-UI is sleek, innovative and easy to use
-Measures everything I want it to
-SO much potential here for this unit IF and WHEN they release the firmware to make it work
-There is currently a known issue in which all ANT+ sensors randomly drop out and both show and record bad data making this useless.
-Elevation data is incorrect, I am hoping this is a firmware fix, but worried its actually hardware. THis unit shows 2-3X the elevation gain/loss that my 500 or iPhone apps do on the same rides. This is also a known and common issues according to the forum boards and Strava CS.
-Battery life is not great, not anywhere near what the 500 was, maybe 50% of it
-Screen is not as easy to read as the 500, often leaving you wanting the backlight, but this unit will only last about 6 hours with backlight running
-Notification system is ridiculous, every time there is a notification the whole screen dims and you must physically touch the unit to dismiss it. IF you are in the middle of a workout this can really cripple your ability to execute and enjoy your workout.
-Garmin continues to see Strava/Training Peaks and other 3rd party sites as their competition rather than the reasons we buy their unit in the first place. As such they block these other apps from either being able to connect to the unit to gather data, or utilize the bluetooth connectivity to automatically post your ride to their sites. Garmin only lets you upload via the bluetooth directly to garmin connect which is years behind Strava in terms of development and features.
-Weather updates do not work as advertised, but they are incredibly annoying. For example, I was out riding and every single minute it would push me a "flood warning" that would block my access to the data and screens until I dismissed it.
-Following courses is slow and buggy, much like the 500 that never had its feature fixed.
All in all, this unit has a lot of potential if and when it gets the updates it needs to work properly. Unfortunately, Garmin is unresponsive to its users and slow to release firmware updates for known bugs despite the thousands of angry posts on their forum boards. They may regret this someday when a viable competitor releases a product that can rival theirs. Instead of innovating, working with partners such a Strava, testing their products prior to release, and acting on known issues, they have began to act like a monopolistic company would.
If you train with a power meter, or rely on your other sensors such as speed/heart rate, your best bet is to watch their forum boards and hold off buying until Garmin posts a fix to all the issues this unit is currently having. A fix was recently posted for the 810 that helped some, but not all of the similar issues the 810 was having, but the 510 has been left out in the dark. If history is any indication they will get this right, but they will be slow and not address all the issues. Past users of the 500 can attest to this, along with early adopters of most any of their units.
I'll happily adjust my rating once Garmin gets these issues fixed. THis has the potential to be a 5 star unit, but the fact they released it in its current state says a lot about Garmin as a whole.
84 of 89 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Garmin 510 is better than other reviewers mention,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer with Heart Rate Monitor and GSC 10 Speed/Cadence Sensor (Electronics)First off, I felt the need to leave a review on the Garmin 510 (with HR, Cadence, & extra out front mount) for several reasons. Many of the reviews here on Amazon can often be misleading- I will explain. I was debating between getting the 500 bundle or even 800 at a lower price since the release of the 510 & 810, but here is why I didn't. The Edge 510 bundle comes with the HR band, cadence sensor, the out front mount (which Garmin and others charge $40+ for), standard stem or bar mount, plus the bluetooth connectivity which includes "Live Tracking" with the Garmin Connect App on your smartphone. The advantages on the 510 over the 500 are simple: Color Touch Screen (500 is physical buttons, black and white screen), the actual screen on the 510 is larger (which is a happy medium size wise between the 500 and 800), easy selection of different bikes if you move the unit from one to another, and easy to use customization of the screens that can be more cumbersome on the 500.
This entire review can be summed up by watching this really cool video on YouTube video, but the review explains each feature in detail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyD-em6jp_0
Many reviewers mention that an upgrade to the 510 is not worth the investment- if you already have a 500, this may be a solid argument. If you have a 200, Garmin Watch, or no GPS at all, maybe an old school speed sensor and cadence computer- the Garmin 510 kit is worth every penny.
REASONS TO BUY THE EDGE 510 BUNDLE:
1) The screen is great, all other's who complain its hard to read are full of it- the screen does not have the sharp contrast of the 500, but it is full color, and its plenty bright (adjustable) and easy to read. Secondly, the color screen is a whole lot nicer to look at- kind of like the difference between an old DOS and a new Windows screen.
2) While it takes a little time to figure out how to program the various screens with Data to your needs, its easy once you figure it out. Also, you have to push the physical "ride" or "play" button on the front of the unit even after tapping "RIDE" onscreen, which is no big deal, you just have to do it, or your unit will not begin your ride or the timer. I think many of the complaints on the 510 come from users who either didn't read the manual, or lack some basic technology skills when it comes to phones, computers, tablets, or anything else. While the user interface on the 510 is still somewhat crude (in the early stages) compared to an iPhone, but it still is incredibly sophisticated, and is perfect for a very usable GPS computer on a road or mountain bike.
3) Bluetooth Connectivity, and Garmin "LiveTrack": This feature is touted by many buyers of this unit as not worthwhile, or a waste of technology for cyclists. BOGUS, the Bluetooth feature on the 510 and 810 are AWESOME. Here is why: my wife or friends can watch my rides live on their computers, tablets, or phones while I'm actually in route- in REAL TIME. We all know how tough it can be to ride a century in the summer heat, and potentially dangerous with cars, trucks, and just bad roads. What a perfect way to let your loved ones know where you are at any given moment? OK some of you are going to say there are already APPS for Android and iPhones that have this feature, and you don't need to waste $400 to buy a Garmin to get it. HERE IS WHERE YOUR WRONG: Anyone who has used these APPS knows that having your GPS turned on full time on your phone (which all APPS that track require) kills your phone battery, often times before your ride ever nears completion. The Garmin unit lets you turn off your phone GPS, all you need turned on is the Bluetooth so your Garmin can stay connected. While this may seem like a solution in search of a problem, it actually works very well. I took a 8 hour ride today, turned off my phone GPS, and at the end of the ride, the Garmin was still at 50% charge, and my phone was at 50% charge (iPhone 5). I could have potentially rode another 5-8 hours with both units turned on, Bluetooth on, and the Garmin Connect App running in the background all the while "Live Tracking" my entire ride.
4) FINALLY: One last feature (may seem trivial, but I think its pretty darn cool) that makes this unit a game changer is the automatic updates at the completion of your ride to Garmin Connect online. As soon as you hit the end ride button (and SAVE on screen) the Garmin unit uploads all the details of your entire ride to the Garmin Connect website for you and everyone to see (if you set it up that way) !!! OK, many of you are going to say that "Garmin Connect" sucks compared to STRAVA, so why would I want to automatically upload my ride to Garmin Connect? You would be right, except for a really cool third party plug in online called: "GARMIN SYNC" here's the website: http://www.garminsync.com
I have listed the website here because it took me some time to find it. This website does one simple thing: It uploads your entire ride data from Garmin Connect directly into STRAVA!!! (AUTOMATICALLY.) You don't have to do a thing, once you set it up, every time your Garmin unit uploads your ride to Garmin Connect, this little plug in "pushes" your ride information to STRAVA, and I don't mean some half baked version, I MEAN THE ENTIRE RIDE- Including: Miles ridden, Time traveled, average heart rate, max heart rate, average speed, max speed, cadence, calories, energy output, power, suffer score (Strava Premium only) !! As far as I can tell, there is no difference between the "Auto" upload of a ride, or the old school plug the Garmin into your computer and upload to STRAVA method. Now some might make the argument they have to plug their Garmin in to charge it anyway, so why not plug into a computer to charge and upload your ride at the same time, why do I need the auto uploads? Here are a couple scenarios I can think of why this is useful: If your traveling, and don't want to bring a laptop to upload your rides, you don't need to. Also, at what point is plugging a device into your computer to upload anything going to become a thing of the past completely: sooner than later. iPhone IOS already does all of its updates from iPhones without ever having to plug them in anymore, not set up, backups, downloads, etc. Why shouldn't other devices be so simple?
5) Last but not least: While my review may seem long winded, there are so many great features of the 510 and 810, I felt it was necessary to review what they are, and what makes them better than the 500 or 800. If you use a smartphone, and can find your way around, these Garmin units are fantastic. I'm not a Garmin employee, or one of Garmin Sync, I'm just an average Joe who is massive cycling junkie, and I think the ride information provided by these Garmin models gives the average "Joe" information that used to only be available to pro cyclists, and that makes them fun in their own right. Why would anyone buy old technology when the new stuff is so much cooler? (assuming it works- and these work really well...)
6) I have purchased several different bar mounts for my iPhone to be able to use the cycle "APPS" that allow your phone to be used as a bike computer. They all are a pain, even an iPhone 5 which is smaller than most of the new Android phones on the market is still too big to mount on your handlebar, plus it just looks stupid. You have to turn the screen brightness up so high that if the GPS being on doesn't kill your battery, the screen brightness will. The beauty of the Garmin plus your phone is they just work together, very well I might add. You get the cool Garmin mounted out front, with its long life battery, and the phone stays in your jersey pocket, all the while tracking your ride in REAL time- its the best of both worlds. You get to save your phone's battery so you can use it a real emergency, which is why you carry it while riding your bike anyway.
CONS: The only con I can think of is that the learning curve is a little longer than the standard 500, or certainly the 200. If you want a super basic GPS without any of the "special" features I mention above, the Edge 200 or 500 will be fine. But based on my research, the 500 is usually only $50-$75 cheaper than the 510, and you don't get the "out front" mount I mention above- so the price is pretty close in the end.
75 of 84 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Not as good as I first thought...,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer with Heart Rate Monitor and GSC 10 Speed/Cadence Sensor (Electronics)Just got this today and have only played with it on my stationary trainer:
1. Touch color screen is very cool once you figure it out. I think navigation around the unit is easier than the Edge 500
2. Screen can display up to 10 different real-time data points simultaneously
3. Slightly bigger and noticeably heavier than the Edge 500; uses same bike mount as the 500
Reviews in several cycling magazines complained that the Edge 510 isn't worth the upgrade from the 500. I disagree. Based on just one day of fiddling around with the 510 (I have a 500, too) I like the touch screen, color and larger (and more data point) display.
I think it's a worthy upgrade, so far.
UPDATE: After using this a couple of days I like it even more. Much easier to change between bicycles than the 500, Virtual Partner and Virtual Racer are much improved. The 500 and the 510 have a lot of duplicate features but it's much easier to access them on the 510. Virtual Racer, especially, is cool--lets you use a stationary trainer like a pre-programmed exercise bike. Haven't tried the "workouts" programs yet but will do so this week.
UPDATE: Found one HUGE annoyance: on start up, the Edge 510 gives SEPARATE "notification screens" for five (5) different functions (including that you've begun pedaling!) These screens cannot be turned off and you have to physically touch the unit to make them go away. This is HUGELY annoying and inconvenient. For this reason, alone, I'm finding that I prefer my Edge 500 over the newer model. I like the 510 touch screen but the touch technology is not state-of-the-art and there's just enough lag between touch and the desired effect to be annoying, too. Not quite as positive on the 510 as I was at the beginning.
UPDATE: I've down-graded my initial assessment of this product. After owning/using it for over a month (virtually every day on a stationary trainer) I don't think it is a big improvement over the Edge 500. The touch screen is a good idea but, as implemented here, it has too much of a lag between touch and response and the screen quickly becomes difficult to read just from screen grime. The multiple notification screens at start up are annoying and there's no way to turn them off. IMO for the vast majority of cyclists the Edge 500 will do everything this new model does and, at the bargain prices now available (on the 500), it is a FAR better value. The only improvements I've personally found so far are (1) virtual racer and (2) much easier to switch bikes. I won't use iPhone tracking but I can see how some might like it.
UPDATE: Garmin is now offering a $100 mail-in rebate on the Edge 800.
16 of 18 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars So far so good.,
1) Switch between bikes (mountain vs road).
2) Track my position.
3) Do it accurately under tree canopy.
4) Have a long battery life.
5) Display lots of data fields, and the ones I want.
This computer accomplishes all of that. Accuracy of the GPS is dead on. Distance is dead on with automatic wheel size calibration. It's easy to modify what fields you would like to see on the fly. Switching between bikes is a flash.
The pretty good:
It takes a few touches to the screen to change data pages. I'm used to scrolling through the with a button which is much easier. The outfront mount is great, but it hooks to the left. It would be great if someone make one that would hook to the right. A lot of bike light mounts also offset to the left and it would be better in some situation to offset the other device int he opposite direction in the case of limited bar space.
The screen is readable in daylight if the backlight is on. This tends to wear down the battery quicker than it should.
The Livetrack is a great safety feature. It is basically like having a SPOT beacon that is live. The phone connection is brilliant, it automatically zips your ride of to Garmin Connect when you're done plus you can analyze the ride right on the phone. No need to bring a laptop on a roadtrip.
If I could give it a 4.5/5 I would. Excellent bike computer.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars From Edge 500 to 510 or how I wish for a 505,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer (Electronics)After switching from 500 to 510 (note that I said *switching*, not *upgrading*) and using the 510 for a couple of months I decided it was time to express how I feel about it in the hopes that maybe someone at Garmin is listening. And if it helps somebody make a decision, that's good too :)
My reason for switching was pretty much forced. I really liked my 500, but I got to the point where I wanted GLONASS, too. Some of the rides around San Francisco Bay Area (such as Tunitas Creek) left me road hopping, tree jumping and what not -- anything but staying with the road I was on. So I switched to the 510, for the GLONASS and I was not disappointed in its ability to track me. Everything else -- not so much.
I can't comment on any of the phone integration features -- I haven't tried any of them. To me they're just a gimmick that won't work half the time because there's no signal anyway. While the display is noticeably less sharp than the 500 (same pixel density, but the color screen requires a higher one for the same sharpness due to its structure) I have no problem reading it in direct sunlight (I have more trouble in the shade), but I use a SRAM mount that puts the screen further out and at a favorable angle compared to the included stem mount. That is, as long as the screen is clean -- which means until I use the touchscreen during the ride and drip some sweat onto it. Yes, touch screen is one other feature that I could very easily do without, although I appreciate how easy it is to switch between different bikes compared to the 500. And don't get me started on how big, heavy and ugly this one is compared to the 500.
In short, if Garmin took the 500, added GLONASS and fixed some of the UI (the 510 UI is so much better than 500 and it doesn't *have* to be touch-based -- can be done with cursor navigation too), called it 505 and released I'd be all over it. The way these two are now -- IMHO as long as you don't need GLONASS you'd better steer clear of the 510. If you do need it -- 510 may cause you less frustration in the long run, although it'll likely keep you well irritated most of the time, especially if you're coming from a 500.
UPDATE on 10/02/2013. Since my initial review I have run into the following issue on several occasions. Sometimes (and for some reason so far it has always happened on the same route) the computer would only record portions of the ride. When looking at the map it would seem I've hopped in a straight line from point A to B, rode some to reach C, hopped again and so on. This kind of stuff has never happened to me with the 500.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars A mixed bag.,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer (Electronics)I have been using an Edge 305 for a few years. When the 510 came out, I decided I would spring for the upgrade. I've been using the Edge 510 now for several months and have explored most, if not all, of the featureset.
There are some good things about this device, so let me start there.
- The battery life is much better than my 305. The ~15 hours seems about right; I no longer have to worry that I'll run out of battery on a double century or hundred-mile mtb ride.
- Similarly, the storage limitations of the 305 are gone too. When recording routes with "every second" resolution, there was only room for 3.5 hours of recording in the 305, which meant having to use the lower granularity recording for a longer ride or for cases where I wasn't gonna plug it in after every ride.
- Speaking of plugging in, I love the bluetooth sync; it's not perfect (it sometimes uploads rides, but they don't appear in the app), but it works well 80-90% of the time. Of course, I really want the data in Strava, which means some extra clicks or use of services like garminsync (or, in my case, I just wrote a simple script to do it for me).
- On the whole I find the ride recording interface more intuitive. It was very unintuitive how with the 305 you had to "reset" the computer when you started your next ride (if you hadn't plugged in to upload the previous one). Also it was easy to ride away and forget to hit "start". The 510 prompts you to "save" (or "discard") your ride when you click the pause button. Similarly it presents a message when it detects you are moving and have not started the ride. On the whole this is better.
- I like how many data screens are available and how easy it is to customize them per activity profile. Lots more display room than the 305 too, so I don't feel like I have to leave fields off if I want to be able to read the display.
- And finally, the LiveTrack feature works pretty well. I used this for an all-day road ride recently. It does use additional battery; my phone (HTC One X) died after it had been tracking for 10 hours. My phone would have died after 2 hours of GPS usage, so it's obviously much less draw, but it's still something to consider. (My normal battery life is a full day or 12-14 hours of rather minimal use, so it's not exactly stellar to start with.)
Now, I do have some issues with this device. Some more significant than others.
- Navigation turn notifications (when riding courses) effectively do not work. If you create a route in Garmin Connect, you will not get any turn notifications. If you try to export a TCX file from RideWithGPS, you will discover that the Edge 510 doesn't support TCX (!!) You can try converting that to FIT (there are some online tools), but reports are that you won't get the turn notifications (I never got this to successfully work, so can't really comment). If you subscribe to a premium account on RideWithGPS and write a TCX file directly to the device this -- oddly -- works. Or I should say it "half works". For a recent 100+ mile ride, it loaded the turn notifications for the first half of the ride only. That, you can imagine, was pretty infuriating 50 miles into the ride. I wrote to Garmin technical support to report this glaring issue, and they responded by telling me that the 510 did not support maps and that I should buy an 810 if I want maps. I wrote back to tell them that I'm not an idiot. I don't want a map; I want turn notifications. This feature worked great on the Edge 305.
- The weather feature is absolute garbage. The station granularity is very coarse and doesn't appear to update. I commute 16 miles which takes me from being relatively close to one airport to being relatively close to another, but the device will hang onto whichever one is closest when I start and not change. The weather alerts are absolutely ridiculous. I get a message on my screen (which I have to click to acknowledge!!) which says "Weather Alert - English Watch". What the hell does that mean? So I click in to see the alert and it says. "Watch - 7" or some other number code. Hilarious. The last time I cross-referenced with a weather app on my phone to realize that the warning was "wildfire conditions". I'm glad Garmin was trying to cryptically warned me about that. And there's no way to disable just the weather alert feature. Stupid. (Update: as noted in the comments, you can at least disable weather completely which will also disable weather alerts.)
- And finally, it is a little annoying that you have to click to acknowledge all of the devices that it finds when it starts up, but this isn't that big of a deal. It means clicking the screen 4 or 5 times before you can start riding.
On the whole, I don't regret upgrading from the 305. I still have the 305 and I'm not tempted to use it. On the other hand, the navigation issue is very disappointing and Garmin support left an impression of complete incompetence when it came to addressing this problem. I am hopeful that future firmware and app updates fix many of these issues, but it might be worth waiting for that before upgrading.
12 of 15 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Beware of bugs,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer (Electronics)I wish I would have read the Garmin forums before buying this product. I've used it three times and twice it dropped the heart rate and cadence sensors mid-ride. The only way to reconnect the sensors is to reboot the device, which means your ride is now saved as multiple activities. Reading through the Garmin forums it appears this problem is widespread! I'm very disappointed as i love all the features. I just wish it worked properly.
9 of 11 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Why Color?,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer (Electronics)This Edge 510 does a good job at it's most basic function. It is more accurate and easier to use than a phone for tracking your rides. Uploading rides via Bluetooth is also quite convenient, though I find that sometimes, randomly, the device will stop uploading rides in the background until I open the Garmin Connect iPhone app again. (And the Bluetooth connection really should be used to display information on incoming calls, texts, and notifications.) In most other ways, however, the Edge 510 fails to deliver on it's promised benefits over the Edge 500, and is even worse is one glaring area: the screen.
Someone at Garmin obviously decided that a color screen would be one of the selling points of this unit. The problem is, just like the Edge 800 and 810, the color screen significantly reduces contrast and daylight readability. (I was quite surprised to find that this screen is actually worse than the one on my 6+ year old GPSMAP 60CSx.) For the most part, the data fields are visible during the day. However, popup messages, which always use white-on-blue text, are nearly unreadable. This includes start / stop messages, data presented at the end of a lap, and weather alerts (more on those later).
Unlike the Edge 800 and 810, which have mapping capabilities, the color screen doesn't actually bring anything useful to the unit. I have yet to run into a single piece of UI on the Edge 510 that really benefits from the color screen. Bike and activity profiles are color coded, but they also have names and could just as easily use numbers or patterns in place of the colors. Color is also nice for the weather images, but they would still be identifiable in greyscale. Most of the rest of the UI is subtly colored with dark blue dividers, text, and backgrounds, but even that is indistinguishable from black in all but the most ideal lighting conditions.
The current implementation of the weather functionality is also completely useless. As long as there's no weather alert, everything is fine. However, most riders will want to turn the alerts off the first time they actually receive one, since each alert will popup every few minutes and completely obscure the data fields as long as it's in effect. Unfortunately, disabling weather alerts also disables weather forecasts, making both features useless.
Finally, support for up to ten data fields is nice, but unfortunately the seven field layout is rather silly. Instead of taking the six field layout, with two large fields and four small ones and splitting one of the large fields into two small ones, they took the two large fields and split them into three stacked small fields. There's absolutely no reason not to have left one large field, since two side-by-side small fields are smaller than one large one.
In short, unless you really want GLONASS support and the ability to upload rides via Bluetooth, the Edge 500 is actually a better unit. I don't plan to return the Edge 510, since I am looking for phone integration in any future unit I buy, but I will be watching the competition very closely. (And the competition already has some very interesting offerings.)
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Solid Performer - Worth Upgrade,
This review is from: Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer (Electronics)I bought this unit after spending a year with the Edge 500, which was lovingly passed to my wife. The 510 is a bit of a price jump over the 500, but it's worth it in my book. The color screen is nice and I've found it to be visible in all light conditions. The high level of customization of the screens is very nice, as is making setting for different riding situations (such as a "Race" setting, "Training" setting, "Fun Ride" setting, etc.). As a bonus, you can track 10 bikes on it, assigning each its own little icon and customized settings as well. The biggest upgrade is the addition of GLONASS to the GPS, which allows it to get a fix much faster than the 500, and I've noticed that there is less "GPS drift" that occurs. I was concerned about the touch screen at first, but it works extremely well.
Out of the box you will want to upgrade the firmware using the Garmin Connect software. One of my favorite data fields for training, the HR Graph was missing from the the first version. A week later the new firmware was released and my beloved HR Graph was back on board. The firmware also fixes a few bugs and such, but I never noticed any problems.
Live Track - this feature is pretty neat. I can link it to my Facebook account, Twitter account, or simply send an email invitation to people who might actually watch. My wife enjoys it because she can check and see where I am and guesstimate when I'll be home.
Battery Life - The battery life was much better than I expected. I figured the larger screen, color, and backlight would drain it pretty fast, but it lasts longer than my 500. Even when doing the live track it only drains about 8% an hour. The recharge time is much faster than my 500 as well.
Overall this has been a fantastic product. Initially, I would have given it a four-star rating because it's larger than I expected (a good chunk larger than the 500), and was missing my HR Graph. After spending time with it and getting the firmware upgrade, it's a solid 5-star performer. In general use, the larger size doesn't really bother me, and it is not noticeably heavier than the 500.
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Garmin Edge 510 GPS Bike Computer by Garmin