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5.0 out of 5 stars
Yet Another Take..., December 23, 2000
This review is from: Genesis Archive, Vol. 1: 1967-1975 (Audio CD)
There's no way around it: the first Genesis Archives box is an essential purchase for any fan of the Gabriel era. It contains the live material that fans have been clamoring for for years, and in absolutely stunning sound quality compared to the boots of those shows. Yes, there are a few minor quibbles (and they are minor, despite what some reviews on this page would have you believe). But overall, there is enough here to appease even the most nitpicky fanatic. First, there is the 'holy grail': a complete (sans one song) live performance of "The Lamb" from the Shrine in '75. The sound quality is amazing, and the performance certainly does not sound too slow or sluggish to these ears. Although the Wembley performance from later that year is superior (with a double-length version of "The Waiting Room"), only about half of that show is available, so the Shrine is all we have for complete, soundboard-quality performances of "The Lamb". The main controversy comes from Gabriel's vocals, about 2/3 of which were re-recorded in the 90s; while I can sympathize with purists who would have liked to have heard all of the original vocals, it is also great to hear the fortysomething Gabriel finally revisit this period, and his voice is in finer form than ever (he even reverts to some of his old vocal phrasings, for authenticity's sake). Perhaps it is strange for some fans to hear the '95 Gabriel on "The Carpet Crawlers" juxtaposed next to the '75 one in "The Chamber Of 32 Doors", but the difference is less jarring than one might imagine. Hackett also re-recorded a few of his solos ("Fly", "Lamia"), and these sound terrific, too (although again I do sympathize with those who would like to have heard the originals). The third disc needlessly edits "Dancing With The Moonlit Knight" and omits a live version of "The Cinema Show", but is great otherwise; the live "Supper" also features about 1/3 re-recorded vocals and a re-recorded guitar solo, with much the same results as on the "Lamb" material (that is to say, quite good). The other live versions are superb, and it's nice to have clean CD versions of the excellent B-sides "Twilight Alehouse" and the Cat Stevens-ish "Happy The Man". The single version of "Watcher" is interesting, it sounds like a different take. Finally, the last disc collects BBC sessions and demos from the group's earliest years. Yes, it's formative, and yes, you probably won't listen to it more than a few times. But it's fascinating anyway to trace the group's development and this is an "Archives" box after all, isn't it? The BBC versions of "The Shepherd", "Pacidy" and "Let Us Now Make Love" are the best here, and bridge the gap between the first and second albums. Oh yes, there is also a delightful (if somewhat fragile) booklet that comes with it, featuring multiple essays, photos and memories from the time. My only real complaint is that they edited "Dancing" and did not include a live "Cinema Show"--the re-recorded vocals work fine. I was most surprised by how excellent the sound quality was on everything. Definitely worth getting, as the 1970-75 era was the peak of the band's career from an artistic perspective.
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21 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The stuff Genesis' fans dreams are made of, February 9, 2003
This review is from: Genesis Archive, Vol. 1: 1967-1975 (Audio CD)
This 4-CD box set of the Peter Gabriel era of Genesis is an embarrassment of riches for fans of "the old Genesis". The first two CDs contain an ENTIRE live performance of "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" from 1975. There are some new overdubs, in fact the closer "it" was entirely recorded in the studio because sound engineers allowed the tape on both recorders to run out (note Mike Rutherford simultaneously playing rhythm guitar and bass). But overall it comes off very well, except for "Back in N.Y.C.", which is slowed down and loses some power. On the original album, the 1st CD is much better than the 2nd--here the performance is more consistent, with cuts like "The Waiting Room" and "The Lamia" (with a great solo by Steve Hackett) coming across great. The 3rd CD contains some more live tracks, most notable a Gabriel-led rendition of "Supper's Ready", which I prefer to the "Seconds Out" version. In the early days, Genesis' guitarists would use several unusual tunings, and Gabriel would tell weird stories between songs while they tuned up; here, the intro to "Supper's Ready" includes one of these stories, with help from Phil Collins. My favorite part of the box is the previously unreleased material. "Twilite Alehouse" is a GREAT song that was written circa "Trespass" and was a staple of early Genesis shows, but was only released in the U.K., as the B-side of the "I Know What I Like" single. I've heard bootlegs of the song, studio and live, for 20 years, now I finally have a copy. "Happy the Man", an early single, isn't so good. The 4th CD contains demos and recordings made for radio shows from the "Trespass" and "From Genesis to Revelation" days, as well as several rough mixes from the latter album prior to the orchestration being added. I find these rough mixes more listenable than the completed album, and "Image Blown Out" and especially "Build Me a Mountain" are better than several songs that made the album. Another catchy song left off that album was "The Magic of Time", with drummer John Silver playing brushes on a metal cookie container. "Let Us Now Make Love" was left off the "Trespass" album, but is at least as good as "Looking for Someone" or "Dusk". "Pacidy" and "Going Out to Get You" are songs that fell between the cracks of the early albums. The package includes an 80-page book with fantastic pictures, a two-page overview of the box by Tony Banks, and informative discussions of the band's history by several associates. (1=poor 2=mediocre 3=pretty good 4=very good 5=phenomenal)
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17 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A Truly Wonderful Treat...For The Fan, March 5, 2000
This review is from: Genesis Archive, Vol. 1: 1967-1975 (Audio CD)
Hey, guess what? The prog wars are over, and it turns out that little Genesis - in its day considered the runt of a litter that included ELP, Yes, and King Crimson - has emerged with the best reputation. They never quite had the technical skill of their prog-competitors (Collins and Hackett being the only real virtuosos of the group), but they had a couple of things that ultimately saved them from the hopeless classical pretensions of ELP, the predilection towards atonal incoherence of King Crimson, or the bloated lunacy of Yes. First was their English sense of humor, something which those other English bands intentionally submerged but Genesis kept to the forefront. Second was their unimpeachable knack for songwriting: COMPOSITION was always the primary consideration with Genesis, not bombast or empty chopsmanship. And finally, their not-so-secret weapon: Mr. Peter Gabriel.
This surprisingly satisfying boxed set is testament to all of these things. As someone who is most definitely NOT a lover of prog-rock, I would like to say that the Gabriel-era Genesis, as represented on these 4 CDs, manages to overcome my reservations about 24 minute songs or lyrical inscrutability. Because really, these guys aren't pretentious at all! (Okay, so maybe Tony Banks was...) Gabriel's just a master storyteller with a wacky sense of humor, and the band are absolutely impeccable melodicists; they may have been a prog band, but they never ceased being a pop band either. (While elitists may gasp at this claim, this is unquestionably a good thing; "I Know What I Like," "The Knife," "Counting Out Time," and the various sections of "Supper's Ready," to name but a few, are all stuffed full of the sorts of instantly memorable pop hooks that would have carried a band into the Top 40 in a different context.) And most importantly, unlike all the other guys, Genesis were always human: you never lost sight of the genuine pathos and thoughtfulness underpinning their theatricality.
As for this set, let me make something immediately clear: do NOT buy it unless you're already a fan. This is NOT a "greatest hits" collection, it's a huge heap of live performances and rare and unreleased tracks. That being said, if you ARE a fan, you simply cannot go wrong at all, and I say that without any exaggeration.
In fact, the most questionable aspect of the set is the most touted feature: the live performance of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway on the 1975 tour. Now I love the album, but it WAS a bit padded, and I've got to say that there are few things as superfluous as a live performance of an ambient track like "Ravine," for example. Furthermore, Gabriel's vocal overdubs in 1998 rob some of the performance of its "live" feel, while not enough space is used on the CD, discs 1 & 2 running only 45 minutes each. So I'll dock the set a star.
Those are my ONLY complaints, however, and they're mitigated somewhat by the fact that the last track on the Lamb concert is a remix/rerecording of the album closer, "it." Apparently the concert tape ran out, so the band remixed the original studio cut and rerecorded some of its elements in a 1998 reunion. What could have been a typical "couldn't leave well enough alone" disaster instead comes off absolutely wonderfully: Gabriel's mature voice is *much* more powerful than his circa-1974 nasal whine, and Steve Hackett's ascending guitar lines are much higher in the mix. It easily tops the original.
For me, it's discs 3 & 4 which get the most play; these are simply indispensable. Disc three is mostly concerned with live performances from 1973-4 which complement those from Genesis Live. We get takes on "I Know What I Like," "Dancing With The Moonlit Knight," "Firth Of Fifth," and most important of all, triumphant reading of "Supper's Ready" complete with a typically insouciant opening monologue from Gabriel. Just like Genesis Live, these tracks vindicate early Genesis as a live tour-de-force. Moving on, we get some interesting outtakes and rarities: a great B-side called "Twilight Alehouse," a BBC recording of "Stagnation," and a pleasant A-side called "Happy The Man."
Disc 4 is probably the most revelatory for fans, however. We get the some pre-production masters of songs for From Genesis To Revelation, and what was weak there is quite strong here. Most notable in this regard is "In The Wilderness" (intentionally chosen to start the disc), which is no less than a lost classic. There are some pricelessly dark, moody BBC sessions ("Pacidy," "The Shepherd," "Let Us Now Make Love") and a heap of early demos, back when the band was more a Zombies/Bee-Gees imitator than a purveyor of prog-rock. Surprisingly enough, none of these demos are annoying, or tuneless, or anything less than perfectly pleasant. Some of this stuff ("One Day" without strings, a definitive early demo of "Dusk," "She Is Beautiful") is to die for if you're a fan, and it really makes this a highly recommended boxed set.
How nice it is to find a package like this that's put together with the fan in mind and not the profit line; this was obviously a labor of love and not a marketing ploy, as it intentionally avoids any overlap whatsoever with Genesis' regular album discography. That consideration alone is to be saluted. 4 stars out of 5.
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