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Genesis Box Set 3 (1970-1975)[13 Disc Set] Box set, Original recording remastered

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Rhino completes its upgrade of Genesis' catalog with a third and final 7 CD/6 DVD box spotlighting the beginning of their career with CD/DVD editions of five albums expanded with bonus audio & video, 5.1 mixes and more, plus an exclusive rarities disc. Included are CD/DVD versions of Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, plus a disc of extras.

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  • Audio CD (November 11, 2008)
  • Number of Discs: 13
  • Format: Box set, Original recording remastered
  • Note on Boxed Sets: During shipping, discs in boxed sets occasionally become dislodged without damage. Please examine and play these discs. If you are not completely satisfied, we'll refund or replace your purchase.
  • Label: Rhino Records
  • ASIN: B001EO2UJK
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (138 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #98,810 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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149 of 156 people found the following review helpful By Alan Caylow on November 23, 2008
Format: Audio CD
So, we finally come to it at last: the third & final Genesis box set in the band's box set trilogy. And this time, we're going all the way back to the band's beginning! "Genesis 1970-1975" is the Peter Gabriel era, the early days of the band when Phil Collins stayed behind the drumkit (or, in the case of "Trespass," wasn't even in the band yet), and Peter Gabriel was the frontman, dressing up in all of his wild, wacky costumes. Five albums included here: "Trespass," "Nursery Cryme," "Foxtrot," "Selling England By The Pound," and "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway," all remastered and remixed by producer Nick Davis, with lots of fantastic early concert footage, and insightful interviews with the various bandmembers, recorded in 2007 (NOTE: the group's 1969 debut album, "From Genesis To Revelation," is not included in the box set for legal reasons). The box set also comes with an exclusive bonus disc of rare tracks and exclusive footage, and a handsome 42-page booklet. All five Genesis albums featured here are 5-star classics in my book, and the sound quality and remixing on all of them is nothing short of superb (thank you, Nick Davis!). Like the two Genesis box sets before it, Davis has once again brought the vocals more up front, as well as some of the instrumentation, so you can now hear notes & passages played & sung that were previously buried. "The Lamb," in particular, is a whole new album! I heard stuff on this new version of "The Lamb" that I've *never* heard before (there's even a few more seconds added to Mike Rutherford's mystic strumming on "Fly On A Windshield"---I never knew the track had been edited!).Read more ›
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102 of 111 people found the following review helpful By R. Duncan on December 8, 2008
Format: Audio CD
I've been a recording engineer for over 20 years and I'm also a big early Genesis fan. When I first read some of these reviews I was excited to hear good things about the over all sound quality. I then saw some negative reviews citing over compression and bad mastering. I just got the box set a few days ago and these are definitely remixes (not just remasters) and they are MUCH better overall. You will hear different vocal tracks on occasion and the vocals generally louder. The drum sounds, guitar tones, bass tones and keyboard sounds are all much improved. The thing about the original recording of these albums (especially Trespass, Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot) is they were done on a tight budget and really are very poor mixes. I think anyone who listens to the new mixes a few times and then goes back to the original recordings will realize how much better these mixes are. The DVD's are also great with just about all live footage from that era and great interviews with all band members done in 2007.

A Must Have! for any PG era Genesis fans
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25 of 27 people found the following review helpful By Kelley Kenison on May 29, 2009
Format: Vinyl
For those who aren't familiar with Genesis prior to "Mama" and "Invisible Touch" (or even "Follow You, Follow Me"): there was a time (1970-1975) when they were the most original progressive rock band around. During this time they were fronted by lead singer/flautist/bass drummer Peter Gabriel; whose throaty voice and mind-blowing costumes only enhanced the already incredible music being created by Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and (as of "Nursery Cryme") Steve Hackett and Phil Collins. This boxed album set contains new vinyl versions of the Peter Gabriel-era Genesis: "Trespass", "Nursery Cryme", "Foxtrot", "Selling England By The Pound", and what many consider their masterwork: the 2-disc album "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway". I have had all these albums since they first came out (and of course they are now in shreds from hundreds of playing plus the fact that I was a teenager at the time).

So why not just get the CDs and be happy? I do have the CDs. I thought I was happy. Then I heard about this boxed set, and what intrigued me even more than the 180 gram audiophile vinyl, the half-speed mastering, and the near-exact recreation of the albums covers and artwork, was the fact that they were not just re-mastered, they were re-mixed! Nick Davis, a well-known prog-rock engineer, actually re-created these albums from their multi-track reels.

How do they sound? Incredible, for the most part. For one thing, you can hear the drums! The original albums had, more often than I liked, shoved Phil's drumming toward the back. His drumming was one of the things that made this stuff so great, so having it clear and up front is wonderful.
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65 of 82 people found the following review helpful By avraham stoler on November 28, 2011
Format: Audio CD
About dynamic range analysis: dynamic range is the difference in volume between the softest and loudest parts of a song. In the past, records used to have a dynamic range of 12 to 14, typically. Today, possibly because of devices like IPod, the remastering engineers typically compress (or narrow) the dynamic range to values of 6 to 8 (except in classical music). The advantages and disadvantages of the practice are:

1. Advantage - narrowing the dynamic range is helpful when listening to an IPod. Otherwise, soft passages will not be heard over street and train noises while louder passages will damage your hearing.

2. Perceived (but usually not real) advantage - "narrowing the dynamic range allows one to hear details not heard otherwise." This results in the illusion that compressed recordings have more clarity. It is not so. All you need to do to hear the details you never heard before is to increase the volume. That's not a problem on a home system, and cases where the loud passages will become too loud just because you want the soft passages to be audible are rare.

3. Disadvantage - compressing the dynamic range often results in a substantial reduction in the quality of sound. This happens because part of the process of compression is to make the recording louder. If the volume is increased to such levels that are above the maximum allowed by a CD, some of the music is lost and a distortion occurs, just like "recording in the red" in cassette tape days. A sign that almost always means distortion is when the peak levels in dynamic range analysis are 0.00 for each song - the maximum allowed by CD.

4. Disadvantage - Listening to compressed music is also very tiring for the brain and results in exhaustion and the inability to listen for long periods.
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Rhino Flashback CD series ... remastered or not?
Very sadly no. RHINO , has gone down hill lately. It used to be one of the best for re-masters and in many cases it still is.

First they ripped people off with a much poorer versions of the LED ZEPPELIN studio album box set which looked like the MUCH BETTER re-mastered Japanese version [SHM-CDs... Read More
Dec 1, 2008 by RegF |  See all 9 posts
GENESIS sound police are nuts!
To the original poster: As long as you like the new sound, that's all that matters. Personally, the more-compressed sound is not to my own tastes, but each to his own as they say! To me, the new sound is flat and lacking dynamics and energy and power and warmth. However, I wouldn't presume to... Read More
Feb 3, 2009 by John Smith |  See all 44 posts
Will these classic albums be over-compressed, too?
I have no problem with the sound on those CDs. Maybe yours was SACD?
Oct 28, 2008 by Jordan Farquharson |  See all 12 posts
Rhino probably knew we all wanted the SACD version so they probably put pressure on someone to delay it, hoping we'll crack and buy their version to at least get the DVD disc.Not me I'm standing my ground and I'll wait.If I die before they are released they are out not me cause they don't get my... Read More
Nov 11, 2008 by John Doe |  See all 40 posts
Genesis 1970 - 1975: Live footage on DVDs
Greetings in the Cave,
The Archival footage contained is as complete as it can be. Starting with Belgium 1972 which is 25 minutes or so and the quality is superb. The highlights of that part (for me) are "Twilight AleHouse" and "Fountain of Salmacis". Next is an odd 3 minute... Read More
Dec 4, 2008 by Trout Voice |  See all 7 posts
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