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Genesis Box Set 3 (1970-1975)[13 Disc Set] [Box set, Original recording remastered]

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  • Audio CD (November 11, 2008)
  • Original Release Date: 2008
  • Number of Discs: 13
  • Format: Box set, Original recording remastered
  • Note on Boxed Sets: During shipping, discs in boxed sets occasionally become dislodged without damage. Please examine and play these discs. If you are not completely satisfied, we'll refund or replace your purchase.
  • Label: Rhino Records
  • ASIN: B001EO2UJK
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (127 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #16,570 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Rhino completes its upgrade of Genesis' catalog with a third and final 7 CD/6 DVD box spotlighting the beginning of their career with CD/DVD editions of five albums expanded with bonus audio & video, 5.1 mixes and more, plus an exclusive rarities disc. Included are CD/DVD versions of Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, plus a disc of extras.

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139 of 146 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The Musical Box, Part III November 23, 2008
Format:Audio CD
So, we finally come to it at last: the third & final Genesis box set in the band's box set trilogy. And this time, we're going all the way back to the band's beginning! "Genesis 1970-1975" is the Peter Gabriel era, the early days of the band when Phil Collins stayed behind the drumkit (or, in the case of "Trespass," wasn't even in the band yet), and Peter Gabriel was the frontman, dressing up in all of his wild, wacky costumes. Five albums included here: "Trespass," "Nursery Cryme," "Foxtrot," "Selling England By The Pound," and "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway," all remastered and remixed by producer Nick Davis, with lots of fantastic early concert footage, and insightful interviews with the various bandmembers, recorded in 2007 (NOTE: the group's 1969 debut album, "From Genesis To Revelation," is not included in the box set for legal reasons). The box set also comes with an exclusive bonus disc of rare tracks and exclusive footage, and a handsome 42-page booklet. All five Genesis albums featured here are 5-star classics in my book, and the sound quality and remixing on all of them is nothing short of superb (thank you, Nick Davis!). Like the two Genesis box sets before it, Davis has once again brought the vocals more up front, as well as some of the instrumentation, so you can now hear notes & passages played & sung that were previously buried. "The Lamb," in particular, is a whole new album! I heard stuff on this new version of "The Lamb" that I've *never* heard before (there's even a few more seconds added to Mike Rutherford's mystic strumming on "Fly On A Windshield"---I never knew the track had been edited!). Read more ›
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95 of 104 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A sound engineer's perspective December 8, 2008
Format:Audio CD
I've been a recording engineer for over 20 years and I'm also a big early Genesis fan. When I first read some of these reviews I was excited to hear good things about the over all sound quality. I then saw some negative reviews citing over compression and bad mastering. I just got the box set a few days ago and these are definitely remixes (not just remasters) and they are MUCH better overall. You will hear different vocal tracks on occasion and the vocals generally louder. The drum sounds, guitar tones, bass tones and keyboard sounds are all much improved. The thing about the original recording of these albums (especially Trespass, Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot) is they were done on a tight budget and really are very poor mixes. I think anyone who listens to the new mixes a few times and then goes back to the original recordings will realize how much better these mixes are. The DVD's are also great with just about all live footage from that era and great interviews with all band members done in 2007.

A Must Have! for any PG era Genesis fans
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20 of 21 people found the following review helpful
For those who aren't familiar with Genesis prior to "Mama" and "Invisible Touch" (or even "Follow You, Follow Me"): there was a time (1970-1975) when they were the most original progressive rock band around. During this time they were fronted by lead singer/flautist/bass drummer Peter Gabriel; whose throaty voice and mind-blowing costumes only enhanced the already incredible music being created by Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and (as of "Nursery Cryme") Steve Hackett and Phil Collins. This boxed album set contains new vinyl versions of the Peter Gabriel-era Genesis: "Trespass", "Nursery Cryme", "Foxtrot", "Selling England By The Pound", and what many consider their masterwork: the 2-disc album "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway". I have had all these albums since they first came out (and of course they are now in shreds from hundreds of playing plus the fact that I was a teenager at the time).

So why not just get the CDs and be happy? I do have the CDs. I thought I was happy. Then I heard about this boxed set, and what intrigued me even more than the 180 gram audiophile vinyl, the half-speed mastering, and the near-exact recreation of the albums covers and artwork, was the fact that they were not just re-mastered, they were re-mixed! Nick Davis, a well-known prog-rock engineer, actually re-created these albums from their multi-track reels.

How do they sound? Incredible, for the most part. For one thing, you can hear the drums! The original albums had, more often than I liked, shoved Phil's drumming toward the back. His drumming was one of the things that made this stuff so great, so having it clear and up front is wonderful.
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53 of 66 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Overly compressed November 28, 2011
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About dynamic range analysis: dynamic range is the difference in volume between the softest and loudest parts of a song. In the past, records used to have a dynamic range of 12 to 14, typically. Today, possibly because of devices like IPod, the remastering engineers typically compress (or narrow) the dynamic range to values of 6 to 8 (except in classical music). The advantages and disadvantages of the practice are:

1. Advantage - narrowing the dynamic range is helpful when listening to an IPod. Otherwise, soft passages will not be heard over street and train noises while louder passages will damage your hearing.

2. Perceived (but usually not real) advantage - "narrowing the dynamic range allows one to hear details not heard otherwise." This results in the illusion that compressed recordings have more clarity. It is not so. All you need to do to hear the details you never heard before is to increase the volume. That's not a problem on a home system, and cases where the loud passages will become too loud just because you want the soft passages to be audible are rare.

3. Disadvantage - compressing the dynamic range often results in a substantial reduction in the quality of sound. This happens because part of the process of compression is to make the recording louder. If the volume is increased to such levels that are above the maximum allowed by a CD, some of the music is lost and a distortion occurs, just like "recording in the red" in cassette tape days. A sign that almost always means distortion is when the peak levels in dynamic range analysis are 0.00 for each song - the maximum allowed by CD.

4. Disadvantage - Listening to compressed music is also very tiring for the brain and results in exhaustion and the inability to listen for long periods.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
5.0 out of 5 stars Good to hear in 5.1
Bought for and really enjoy the 5.1 DVD versions of the Albums.
Published 1 month ago by Peter Winterburn
5.0 out of 5 stars Gabriel-Era Genesis Heard Anew
I'm going to try and be brief in this review, but I've approached this box set with a bit of caution as I've read several reviews about the compression levels and so forth... Read more
Published 5 months ago by Transfigured Knight
5.0 out of 5 stars Perfect
If you're a Genesis fan, mainly a Gabriel-era fan, this is for you. No more, no less. Great audio quality and package. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Eloá C
5.0 out of 5 stars Early Genesis. Theres a reason why people always say this is some of...
Being born in 1976 when A Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering were released I missed out completely on this music which ended 1 year before those albums were released. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Pink Floyd in Space
4.0 out of 5 stars Better than getting these albums one at a time.
OK, I bought this box set for one song. I know, it was an indulgence. But this set has "Twilight Alehouse", which I also have as a scratchy B-Side 45 rpm, the flip side... Read more
Published 8 months ago by M. Buck
4.0 out of 5 stars Amazing remix work, even for people who don't have 5.1 at home
I bought this for the stereo remixes and was very happy with the nice result.
The "Trespass" remix is simply amazing - upgrading the old album from obscurity to a real, bright... Read more
Published 8 months ago by Uri Breitman
5.0 out of 5 stars The best of Genesis.
You can't beat the price for this classic Genesis music. Genesis was at their creative best in the early 70's.
Published 9 months ago by George L. Lund Jr.
5.0 out of 5 stars Nice box set
If you can pick this up at a decent price it's a must-have for any serious Genesis connaisseur (assuming you have the 5. Read more
Published 11 months ago by H. Russell
5.0 out of 5 stars For The Hardcore Vintage Genesis Fan!
Having been a child of the 80's, I grew up hearing Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins songs on the radio. Read more
Published 13 months ago by Derek Corey
5.0 out of 5 stars The Only Genesis that Matters
I just received this magnificent set and was brought to tears by the sheer majesty of the 5.1 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. Read more
Published 15 months ago by The Rocker
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GENESIS sound police are nuts!
To the original poster: As long as you like the new sound, that's all that matters. Personally, the more-compressed sound is not to my own tastes, but each to his own as they say! To me, the new sound is flat and lacking dynamics and energy and power and warmth. However, I wouldn't presume to... Read More
Feb 3, 2009 by John Smith |  See all 44 posts
Rhino Flashback CD series ... remastered or not?
Very sadly no. RHINO , has gone down hill lately. It used to be one of the best for re-masters and in many cases it still is.

First they ripped people off with a much poorer versions of the LED ZEPPELIN studio album box set which looked like the MUCH BETTER re-mastered Japanese version [SHM-CDs... Read More
Dec 1, 2008 by r. f. |  See all 9 posts
Will these classic albums be over-compressed, too?
I have no problem with the sound on those CDs. Maybe yours was SACD?
Oct 28, 2008 by Jordan Farquharson |  See all 12 posts
Rhino probably knew we all wanted the SACD version so they probably put pressure on someone to delay it, hoping we'll crack and buy their version to at least get the DVD disc.Not me I'm standing my ground and I'll wait.If I die before they are released they are out not me cause they don't get my... Read More
Nov 11, 2008 by John Doe |  See all 40 posts
Genesis 1970 - 1975: Live footage on DVDs
Greetings in the Cave,
The Archival footage contained is as complete as it can be. Starting with Belgium 1972 which is 25 minutes or so and the quality is superb. The highlights of that part (for me) are "Twilight AleHouse" and "Fountain of Salmacis". Next is an odd 3 minute... Read More
Dec 4, 2008 by Trout Voice |  See all 7 posts
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