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Getting the Reformation Wrong: Correcting Some Misunderstandings [Paperback]

James R. Payton Jr.
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July 8, 2010
Getting the Reformation wrong is a common problem. Most students of history know that Martin Luther nailed his ninety-five theses to the Wittenberg Church door and that John Calvin penned the Institutes of the Christian Religion. However, the Reformation did not unfold in the straightforward, monolithic fashion some may think. It was, in fact, quite a messy affair. Using the most current Reformation scholarship, James R. Payton exposes, challenges and corrects some common misrepresentations of the Reformation. Getting the Reformation Wrong:
  • places the Reformation in the context of medieval and Renaissance reform efforts
  • analyzes conflicts among the Reformers
  • corrects common misunderstandings of what the Reformers meant by sola fide and sola Scriptura
  • examines how the Anabaptist movement fits in with the magisterial Reformation
  • critiques the post-Reformational move to Protestant Scholasticism
  • explores how the fresh perspective on the Reformation could make a difference in today's churches

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"The title is provocative, but what James R. Payton Jr. has in mind is not the overthrowing of generations of scholarship on the Reformation, but the use of the best scholarship to guide and correct misleading impressions often held by the common reader and Christian laypeople: for example, that the Reformation was a revolutionary bolt from the blue, that the principle of sola scriptura meant a wholesale rejection of Catholic theological tradition, that the Catholic Church was truculent over against the Protestant assault, refusing all efforts at reform, and the like. These notions are indeed false. On this basis of 'getting wrongs right,' the book proves to be a lively narrative that tells the story of the most important epoch in the history of the church in a clear, understandable, unfussy manner, yet one rich in detail. I appreciate especially Payton's sober conclusion on the tragic elements of what the sixteenth century wrought." (Walter Sundberg, professor of church history, Luther Seminary, St. Paul, Minnesota )

"Dr. Payton's new book, Getting the Reformation Wrong, is a refreshing and stimulating look at the events of the sixteenth century and their implications. He combines a solid understanding of the scholarship with a sensitivity to the faith issues involved, particularly for Christians of all types who may be reading these pages. Ending with reference to the worldwide Protestant missionary movement, he urges his readers to consider the tension between the triumph and the tragedy that are both the legacies of these long-ago events in a way that moves the discussion of the challenges of being a Protestant Christian right up to the present."  (Helen Vreugdenhil, assistant professor of history, Redeemer University College )

"Getting the Reformation Wrong gets the Reformation right. All students of the Reformation, whether academic or just interested, must read this book. It rightly sets the record straight about the great people and ideas of the Protestant and Catholic Reformations of the sixteenth century in a refreshingly engaging style." (Roger Olson, author of The Story of Christian Theology )

About the Author

James R. Payton Jr. (Ph.D., University of Waterloo, Canada) is a professor of history at Redeemer University College, Ancaster, Ontario, Canada. He has studied, taught and been in dialogue with Eastern Orthodoxy for many years and is the author of a number of articles on Orthodoxy and Protestant-Orthodox relations. Another area of interest for Payton is the Reformation on which he has written many articles and book reviews. Some of his works cover subjects such as John Calvin, Martin Bucer and the influence of the Reformation in Ukraine. He is very involved in ministry to Eastern Europe, serving from 1998-2006 as executive secretary of Christians Associated for Relationships with Eastern Europe, and since 2006 as president.

Product Details

  • Paperback: 272 pages
  • Publisher: IVP Academic (July 8, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0830838805
  • ISBN-13: 978-0830838806
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6 x 0.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 12.8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (12 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #817,743 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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5.0 out of 5 stars A Wonderful, Challenging And Informative Read August 30, 2010
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Please notice the title of the book - it does not say that the reformation was wrong, but that there is misunderstanding about the reformation, especially in the Church today, which needs to be acknowledged. The author is a protestant evangelical scholar and he is not seeking in any way to undermine the (important) successes of the reformation. However, to view the reformation as nothing but a success is a problem. To assume that the reformation is beyond criticism or critical analysis is quite simply nonsense which is why , in my opinion, this book has been a longtime coming.

Payton's analysis is simple. The reformation was a success. The medieval church had obscured the apostolic message and the reformation pulled back the curtain to reveal once again the gospel message. However, there is a tragedy to the reformation, and that tragedy is that the reformation is by nature schismatic. Even from the earliest times the reformers were divided amongst themselves. Eventually Lutherans denounced Melanchthon, Zwingli's followers entered conflict with Bucer's followers. Lutheran and Reformed camps viciously criticized each other, eventually claiming the truth for their side. This has continued in the aftermath of the reformation. We now have 26,000 Protestant denominations.

This is more than a historical issue for Payton. He challenges the reader to examine the words of Jesus in John 17:20-23 (I pray not only for these, but also for those who believe in Me through their message. May they all be one, as You, Father, are in Me and I am in You. May they also be one in Us, so the world may believe You sent Me. I have given them the glory You have given Me. May they be one as We are one. I am in them and You are in Me. May they be made completely one, so the world may know You have sent Me and have loved them as You have loved Me.)

Payton writes, "If as Christians (of whatever denominational stripe) we believe that Jesus Christ had some insight into what would affect the reception of the gospel as proclaimed by his apostles, then we cannot bypass the correlation he explicitly declares here (John 17). According to Jesus Christ himself, for those who would come to faith in him through the apostolic message to be one would constitute a compelling argument to the rest of the world that God the Father had, indeed, sent his son into the world. Conversely, for such believers not to be one would offer the world at least an excuse not to believe the gospel.

Too often, Protestants have divided over non-salvation issues such as the Lord's Supper, predestination versus free will, eschatology, church governance, charismatic gifts, creation vs evolution, ordination of women, resulting in the fragmentation of the body of Christ. Payton's book raises the question - is what the church is today really what is should be? 26,000 or more denominations fighting over small issues of theology?

This is a wonderful balance to reformation studies and a book which should not just be read but thought through. Yes, for some, this may be a provocative read. But it will be a worthwhile and challenging read. I would recommend this book as required reading for reformational studies.

Highly recommended.
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Work August 2, 2010
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Overall Review:

This work is excellent. It offers interesting details (about the bubonic plague, eg.) which are mnemonic and genuinely relate to the main points. The work is detailed but not overly-so, opinionated but not inappropriately, and there are unique, supported insights stemming from the author's own judgment, doing away with the "text-book" feeling. Thus, the work is easy to read, very enganging, and easy to understand. The issues addressed are of contemporary import (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fides, etc.), ensuring that most of the work (excepting the last two chapters) is worth the reader's time. The author exhibits boldness in saying why it is the Catholic Church lost credibility with the Occident (West) in the 15th. and 16th. centuries; he notes how Pope Paul IV cleaned up Rome from the slum of sin it was into a pristine city where there were no longer any brothels.

The author's boldness is a breath of fresh air in an area of study that has suffered from oversensibility and continual deference to the "other religion" whether it be Catholic or Protestant. That is to say, Dr. Payton says it as it was.

Highlights of the text:

Brought great clarity as to why Luther was so opinionated (explaining, in part, the failure of the Marbourg Colloguy). The difference between the Italian and Northern Christian Renaissance. The relation of the Renaissance to Medieval Scholasticism.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Righting those who Get the Reformation Wrong October 22, 2010
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James Payton presents both a history lesson and a moral lesson in attempting to right those who 'get the Reformation wrong.' What comes across is a great love for the Reformation, Protestantism, and a deeply held concern that not only are we getting the history of the Reformation wrong, but some how using those errors to 'converse' the prayer of Christ in John 17. From analyzing the events and situations leading up to the Reformation to walking us though certain doctrinal formations and ending with a plea for unity, Payton gives the foundation for all serious students of the Reformation, Protestantism and Church Renewal to right their own path.

There is something to be said about Payton's use of the phrase, 'Getting the Reformation' wrong. It is at once a call to look at the historical facts of the period and to return the principles of the Reformation and to Christian unity. Payton simple wants us to stop using the Reformation in a wrong way, more often to cause division.

The first few chapters of this book deals with the cultural situation leading up to the break through by Martin Luther, which officially began the Reformation (although admittedly, others such as Zwingli, had begun to preach about faith before Luther's inquisitive announcement on the church door). He notes the famines, plagues, and other physical anxieties which besought the Europeans. Further, he writes about the rise of scholasticism, the humanism of the day and does well to separate the myth that the humanists of today and the humanists such as Erasmus, Luther and Calvin were in any way the same. He points to the war and revolts of the age, which brought death and destruction with no discernible outcome. Finally, there were two crises which struck me as important today.

The first was the Church leadership issue. From the Avignon Papacy to the rise of councils which actually sought to curb the power of the Pope, the Western Church was attempting renewal, at least from within, of its governing institutions. It failed, as we now know. Monastic societies, and saints of the ages, railed against the abuses of power by the Church. Of course, secular authorities took advantage of it, trying to use the divisions to their gain. Arriving on the scene were the mystics and the preachers of repentance. The latter group urged a change of living to appease the wrath of God, turning instead of their common existence to the `penitential practices common among monks and nuns.' (p50)

The final crisis, although not defined as such by Payton, was the fact that Europe was not hegemonic, with simmering hate towards Rome, although generally the Rome of its Imperial Past. These individual groups, such as the Germans and the English - those who were conquered by Rome, but never fully assimilated into the myth - were looking for a chance to overthrow the rule by the Roman papacy over their national churches.

He then moves into the misunderstandings engendered during the heady days of the Reformation as well as the conflict which arose between the leading Reformers. It is here that many may learn something new. It is often perceived that what Luther was, others were as well. Yet, Payton shows that Luther was hardly the likeable person we would hope that he would be or that all the Reformers cooperated easily. His views here are shielded, with no real biased being shown to any particular Reformer. While Luther dots more pages than the others, Payton doesn't hold back on shedding light upon him. Further, he goes slightly into repairing the history between Zwingli and Luther, showing that it might not have been Zwingli's issue which caused the major rift. Payton is fair to the Reformers and doesn't hide them behind an angel complex. The only complaint here is in documentation, using the Reformer's own words, and his use of Luther as a source although Zwingli had started to preach justification before Wittenberg.

Payton's take on Protestant Scholasticism is interesting in that he wants to show that those in this traincar have so erred the Reformation that it would hardly be recognized and accepted by the Reformers. He notes that Luther, a scholastic himself, rails against the scholastic theology which netted certain `Roman' doctrines citing Thomas Aquinas and his use of Aristotle. He writes,

"According to Luther, reason had given Christian teaching "the French pox" (i.e., syphilis) and Aristotle was the pimp who had arranged the tryst... How is it then, that Luther's would-be faithful followers could so readily turn again to what Luther excoriated as theological fornication?" (197)

Payton goes on to lament the fact that the followers of Luther and Calvin have turned to scholasticism to keep alive the faith. Personally, I feel that at some levels, scholastics call the faithful to return to the proper path and can give us answers against the superstition which develops, such as myths and misinformation which surround our faith and dogmas. Much like Payton as the scholastic who calls us back to a proper understanding of the Reformation.

In speaking of Scripture as used by the Reformers, Payton writes,

"The written Word of revelation communicates God's wrath against sin, his provision for human salvation and the salvation in Christ, and the proclaimed Word is God's loving summons to faith in his mercy in Christ." (p206)

While Payton doesn't get into the nuts and bolts of the Reformation's stances (although several chapters are doctrinal in nature), he wants to move the current understanding of the Reformation beyond that of the simplistic to the meat of what the Reformers were trying to say. We have often interpreted them not through their own words and statements of belief, but through those who proudly claim to follow in their footsteps. Payton's mastering of this doctrine, along with the inclusion of the Reformer's use and love of the Patristics, helps to break forth the light into many circles which claim the Reformers for their own, but consistently refute the very things that they believed in.

The final three chapters are essential questions yet to be answered. Was the Reformation a Success? A Norm? These first two questions are answered in an unsuspecting way, in that Payton doesn't shy away from the fact that we have simply gotten the Reformation wrong, and in doing so have debased Protestantism. He tackles the notion of a golden age and calls us to attend to the fact that even the Reformers were discouraged with their own churches. Here, Payton starts to sound almost homiletic and remorseful, as if we can hear the Reformers today lamenting the state of our churches. His final chapter is not an answer, but a charge - a charge for unity.
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As I read "Getting the Reformation Wrong: Correcting Some Misunderstandings" by James R. Payton Jr. I kept thinking of Blessed John Henry Newman's quotation from the Introduction... Read more
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Published 21 months ago by Bradley P. Hayton
5.0 out of 5 stars Clarifies some important issues
Even those who are familiar with the Reformation will benefit from this book. The author is a careful scholar and makes his points with balance and insight.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A fair and balanced view of the Reformation
I found this book to be an objective overview of the Reformation years, providing answers to very thought provoking questions and critically assessing all sides involved. Read more
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The publisher limits highlighted passages to 173. I highlighted 225. The publisher's limit is unreasonably low for a scholarly book such as this, especially when the limit is not... Read more
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