Getting Sentimental [Live]

Bill Evans | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (August 19, 2003)
• Original Release Date: 1978
• Number of Discs: 1
• Format: Live
• Label: Milestone
• ASIN: B0000APVBZ
• In-Print Editions: Audio CD  |  MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 2.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #453,447 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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19 of 19 people found the following review helpful:

3.0 out of 5 stars Fine Middle-Period Evans, Regrettable Sound, September 5, 2003

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Stephen Silberman "writer, Wired Magazine" (SF, CA USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Getting Sentimental (Audio CD)

This date with Philly Joe Jones and Michael Moore -- who was auditioning for the bass slot that night, and got it -- is pretty much what you'd expect. Evans circa 1978 lacked the freshness and spontaneity of his earlier work with bassists Scott LaFaro and Chuck Israels, and also the striving and intensity of the work just before he died. Moore is fine here, if a little tentative, which is understandable considering it was the first night he had played with the trio.

While it's nice to hear Evans with a more fiery drummer than those in his later trios, and Bill recorded the brilliant sessions with the great Philly Joe released on the "Interplay" and "Loose Blues" CDs, the drummer is a bit lead-footed here. What makes Philly Joe's heavy-handed playing even more regrettable is that he is far and away the most prominent musician in the mix. Sadly, this album should be called "Philly Joe Jones with Bill Evans Somewhere Off to the Side and the Occasionally Audible Michael Moore." The piano is flat-sounding and tinny. I doubt Evans would have approved this for release on that basis. Frankly, I have several Evans bootlegs with better sound.

I don't mean to bum out Mike Harris, the Evans fan and scholar who recorded this gig. He performed a valuable service for Evans completists. But Fantasy/Milestone records should be made aware that they're getting close to unacceptable levels of sound quality for a commercial release with this disc.

16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:

2.0 out of 5 stars Aberration of Starlight - Bill Evans's _Getting Sentimental_, October 3, 2003

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Charles A. Ralston (MABLETON, GA USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Getting Sentimental (Audio CD)

"Aberration of Starlight" a review of the Bill Evans Trio recording _Getting Sentimental_ (Berkeley, CA: Milestone Records, 2003) (MCD-9336-2) recorded at the Village Vanguard, New York, NY, 15 January 1978 by Mike Harris. Bill Evans, piano; Michael Moore, double bass; `Philly' Joe Jones, drums. 14 tracks; TT 73:19; AAD / Stereo; "all selections previously unreleased"

This surreptitious recording was made by Mike Harris, whose other `secret' recordings of the pianist in performance between 1966 and 1975 at New York's Village Vanguard were issued as _Bill Evans: The Secret Sessions_ (Milestone, 1996, 8 CDs boxed). It was another Sunday at the Village Vanguard and bassist Michael Moore was the last of several bassists who throughout the past week had auditioned for a position in the trio. George Mraz and Rufus Reid were two other bassists who had auditioned. It is not a good recording technically with noticeable drop outs, thud-like drums, crashing cymbals, and muffled bass. Also, the re-mastering seems to have overlooked the need for concert A-440 pitch - everything seems sharp. This CD would be of interest to anyone who wants to know what the Evans trio sounded like between `Eddie Gomez- Eliot Zigmund and Marc Johnson-Joe LaBarbara.

Both Evans and Jones rush the tempos on `I Should Care' and `I'm Getting Sentimental over You'. Jones plays loudly throughout overwhelming Moore. With ballads like `Quiet Now' and `The Peacocks' the trio is more successful (Jones' brush work was always superb). On `Song from M*A*S*H (Suicide is Painless)' the drums are acoustically out of balance, probably due to the location of Harris's recording machine, but then again probably also because Philly Joe is not in full control of tempos or volume. Moore's playing is conservative with good intonation and thoughtful melodic lines, appropriate for an audition. His best performance is on `Gary's Theme'.

We learn from Peter Pettinger's Bill Evans: How My Heart Sings, (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1998), a chronological review and analysis of the recordings of the pianist, that following the departures of Eddie Gomez and drummer Eliot Zigmund in the fall of 1977, Bill Evans was without a trio for the first time in over a decade. Despite having secured the bassist chair in the trio, Michael Moore himself reports in the program notes to this recording that after five months he resigned disenchanted with the pianist's shift toward what Moore saw as a fascination with fast tempos and lots of notes.

In January 1978, these (then relatively recent) Evans `non-trio' LPs were available for fans to buy:

* Intuition (Evans-Gomez duo) - recorded November 1974
* Tony Bennett-Bill Evans Album (duo) - June 1975
* Montreux III (Evans-Gomez duo) - July 1975
* Alone (Again) - solo - December 1975
* Quintessence (with K. Burrell, R. Brown, H. Land, `Philly' Joe) - May 1976
* Together (Again) - Evans and Bennett duo - September 1976
* Crosscurrents (with W. Marsh, L. Konitz, Gomez, Zigmund) - March 1977

Bill Evans was searching for something new - duo, solo, quintet - in spite of his always challenging trios. In the end, he returned to his tried and true trio format with bassist Marc Johnson and drummer Joe LaBarbara. It was this last Evans trio that will be compared most often to his first with bassist Scott LaFaro and drummer Paul Motian. _Getting Sentimental_, both technically and artistically, is an aberration of the starlight clarity and inventiveness of Evans' other recorded trio accomplishments.

2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

1.0 out of 5 stars If you like Philly Joe's drumming , that's what you'll hear....., February 8, 2006

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A C SHIELDS (melbourne , australia) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Getting Sentimental (Audio CD)

This is one CD I wished I'd never bought .
It should not be released as a Bill Evans album at all .
Bill is on it , but from a distance .

Buyers get a great recording of Philly Joe's drums .
However , the album is not sold as that , which rightfully it should be .

To hear Bill and Philly Joe to better effect , buy the live CD
called " California Here I Come " - that fulfils the promise that this CD denies you .

I sold my copy .
Do not buy it unless you like the drums - a lot .