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Initial post: Aug 20, 2009 2:20:54 PM PDT
I found his book not only informative but followed Thomas Payne's belief in less Government.

Apparently all the Liberal Obama Kool aid drinkers do not like it. They like fascist beliefs.

Fix the Economy President Obama. We can't outspend our deficit by printing more money we do not have.

Posted on Aug 21, 2009 9:07:07 AM PDT
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Posted on Aug 22, 2009 11:18:39 AM PDT
Karen Carver says:
msnbc is a joke....so are all the jokers on the program. these people, really believe that us the american people have no common sense......and that we are to believe the crap they dish out. not wise. that's why their ratings are low very low.....

Posted on Aug 22, 2009 12:05:47 PM PDT
Glenn Beck is so fair that he's losing advertisers left and right for calling the President a racist. Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Malkin, etc. figured out a long time ago that the more absurd and irrational things they put out there, the more southern and fly-over state dimwits lap it up. Throw out socialism, fascism, or whatever, every now and then and rednecks go crazy. No need for them to actually understand any of the issues or what any of the words they throw around actually mean. Put a pretty face on the nonsense (Sarah Palin) and boy oh boy, watch these morons get revved up.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2009 12:07:52 PM PDT
Lester, please provide an example of a "fascist belief."

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2009 7:52:29 PM PDT
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David Shane says:
You know Big Nate, Glenn Beck sent someone out into New York who asked people what their political affiliation was and, after learning they were liberals, read them a section of his new book. And overall, they agreed with what the book said. And then they learned it was written by Glenn Beck, and were suddenly not so happy. I think this says a lot. Drop your stereotypes, drop your "dimwit" insults, and give him a chance.

Posted on Aug 24, 2009 2:23:49 AM PDT
Sophia says:
End the wars and we'll fix the economy! Remember the trillion dollar deficit Bush left us with?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2009 5:17:30 AM PDT
Joyce Tanner says:
What are you talking about, he doesn't compare himself to Thomas Payne just because he has the same beliefs

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2009 7:06:40 AM PDT
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Silver Snake says:
Its funny how when someone who isn't a liberal speaks their mind on any issue they get thrown under the bus by people like you. Where do you get off criticizing people based on their belief systems or where they reside within America? Maybe you should look up what it means to be a "red neck" instead of spitting out what ever lies in your silly little head. Of course most ignorant people just run their mouths before looking up the facts and tend to use demeaning language when trying to make themselves look more intelligent. The term "red neck" originally came from Scotland and refers to their opposition to an Anglican Church system; they established a Presbyterian Church and wore red scarves around their necks to show their view of this issue in public.
In another historical perspective it refers to anyone who has Scottish/Irish/Welsh family history in which they prided themselves on family values, lack of trust in government authority, and always being ready for battle. If it wasn't for "red necks" and southerners our country wouldn't exist as it is today. Red necks are the ones working everyday so that you can have a nice meal with your family, drive your nice car, and be able to walk the streets without getting your head cut off. You need a history lesson on the wars that have taken place in this country and you also need to look up where the majority of our military originates from, I can tell you its NOT New York or California. So here is something else for you to consider "think before you speak" otherwise you look like an imbecile.

Source:
http://www.reference.com/browse/red+neck

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2009 7:41:44 AM PDT
I spent the first 20 years of my life in West Virginia. I know the meaning of "redneck." Also, let's not pretend that no one in New York or California works hard, which is basically what you implied. I don't see how southerners keep me from getting my head cut off walking down the street. Seems like the NYPD does a pretty good job of preventing that. It's also funny that you tell me I need a history lesson regarding wars in US history, and then also say that southerners made this country what it is today. I suppose you are simply ignoring the Civil War in which southerners actually wanted to secede from the nation you claim they built. I'm also not sure I understand the relevance of your point that a majority of the military comes from the south. Hawaii has the 3rd highest military recruitment per capita of any state, and that state is very "liberal." Military recruitment is due to a wide range of factors, not simply who is the more patriotic or whether your state is liberal or conservative. Contrary to what you may have convinced yourself, the south is not the only region that loves America.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 25, 2009 7:35:39 AM PDT
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Silver Snake says:
First, I want to say that Glenn Beck is an honest, forthright, and genuine person. He states his beliefs without caring what his opponents might say, he believes that everyone should be informed of our government's actions regardless of where their loyalties lie. He just wants people to wake up and start taking action in their communities and start participating in their local government, otherwise they have no ground to stand on when things take a down turn. You should stand up now while our voices can still be heard above the roar of socialism. His book "Common Sense" is just that, COMMON SENSE in which everyone should know and be aware of. Now to my next point.

Geez Big Nate, looks like I got you all "revved up" didn't I. While you may have spent 20 years in West Virginia you must not have learned very much about manners while you were there, because they don't use degrading stereotypes. Also, if you had really paid attention to what I said earlier you would have seen that I never stated that people from New York & California don't work hard; I stated that they don't contribute AS MUCH to our military forces as southern states do. Also, if you watch the news very much you might have been able to comprehend my comment about being "able to walk the streets without getting your head cut off". Meaning that our military & the Bush administration, which most liberals ignore because they considered Bush to be an ignorant "red neck" kept us safe from further terrorist attacks after 9/11. But for some strange reason liberals always want to dismiss that fact, George Bush is a good man with morals. He stood up for his country & the Congress went along without complaint, including the democrats. And since you mentioned the NYPD, I am going to assume you're from New York. Whether I'm right or wrong, I'm sure that you have heard of a person named Rudy Giuliani, you know the conservative mayor that rallied the people of New York & the rest of the country together against terrorism after 9/11.

And perhaps I should have been more clear in my earlier reference to you needing to study our past wars. What I said was you need to look into the number of military recruits from each state, including from the Civil War. Southern states have always had higher recruitment rates. As for your comment that "Hawaii has the 3rd highest military recruitment per capita of any state" I was not able to find any information relating to this, so next time you state a statistic it would be nice if you cited your source so that other people could verify the information. Either way I never brought up the idea that liberal states don't contribute to our military, I brought up the idea that southern states have higher recruitment rates and nothing more.

And you are making assumptions about my beliefs because I never stated that only patriotic & conservative people join the military, I know plenty of democrats/liberals in the armed forces who are as patriotic as anyone around. You know most southern states are not conservative. And I never stated that the South is the only region that loves America, seeing as which I am NOT from the south, I just happen to know people who are. Why is it that liberals always want to take things out of context? Anyway, I LOVE AMERICA AS IT IS or WAS: a free nation where people could create their own destinies without being penalized for their successes.

It has been interesting reading everyone's comments on Beck's book. I hope that everyone whether you are conservative or liberal will have an open mind and give "Common Sense" a chance. That way more people will able to make informed statements about the book and add to future discussions. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Posted on Aug 25, 2009 8:25:10 AM PDT
The statistic I found came from this website:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/mil_tot_mil_rec_arm_nav_air_for_percap-navy-air-force-per-capita

Not sure if it will work for you or not but the information is based on a study from 2004 (a little outdated but the most recent I could find).

I'm still not completely sure what you're referring to about not getting my head cut off. Have street decapitations ever been a problem in the U.S.? It is true that there has not been another terrorist attack since 9/11, but that argument always ignores that 9/11 happened UNDER BUSH. Let me be clear, I am not one who blames the attack AT ALL on Bush. If there was any way for him to stop it, of course he would have. If you're going to give him all the credit for keeping us safe the last 7 years, then you at least have to to recognize that the attack did happen under his watch on 9/11.

As for your other arguments, you seem to be changing tune a little bit. In your first email you stated "If it wasn't for "red necks" and southerners our country wouldn't exist as it is today. Red necks are the ones working everyday so that you can have a nice meal with your family, drive your nice car, and be able to walk the streets without getting your head cut off." My point regarding the Civil War was simply that....yes you are correct, if the southerners had there way the country would not exist as it does today. It would instead by split into at least 2 different nations. In that sentence, you did imply that southerners are the only reason I'm able to have a nice meal, or drive a car, or whatever, which I still don't fully understand.

I was not accusing all conservatives of being rednecks, in fact, there are many intelligent conservatives who I would never term redneck. However, I do not consider anyone who believes that Glenn Beck is a serious person or a rational thinker, to be very intelligent. His use of nazi images, the terms "socialist", etc, and calling the President "racist," are all perfect examples that he is simply playing to the lowest common denominator, and if you buy into it, you are simply playing right into his hands.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 25, 2009 9:28:57 AM PDT
Susan Gammon says:
yes and ob has spent more in 6mo than all the rest of the prez has alltogether

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 25, 2009 9:44:11 AM PDT
Uh, what??? The deficit has grown by $1 trillion since Obama took office, but that is nowhere close to being more than all other Presidents put together. The deficit grew by 4.9 trillion during Bush's term, so obviously 4.9>1. Comments like this only prove my earlier point about dimwits.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 25, 2009 10:05:51 AM PDT
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Silver Snake says:
Let me again verify my statements about getting you head cut off. Have you not heard or seen stories about our military personnel being captured overseas by terrorists. There are many cases of our people being executed by the enemy through beheading, which is totally barbaric. A young man in my area was brutally killed in this fashion while serving overseas. Thus I was stating that the fact that we can walk safely down our streets without the threat of an immanent terrorist attack or takeover (head getting cut off) is due to our military, which is greatly comprised of people who reside in the southern part of America, which most people label as "rednecks". Let me ask you this, how many blue collar workers are there on the West Coast & in the Northeast?, not too many, except for agriculture in California. Which I'm sure that the people in the cities there refer to the workers as "rednecks" or other demeaning term cause they do manual labor. The people who are making your cars and picking/processing your food are typically from the South, Midwest and Southwest. You know the "fly-over"states which you referred to as being composed of "rednecks". Thus I ask you, why even choose to use the term "redneck"? And why label people with opposing views from your own as "redneck"? From what I read in the discussion no one used any derogatory words to describe others. I would never go around using demeaning language to stereotype any region of our country, regardless of their views.That is my point.

The fact that 9/11 happened under Bush's watch is correct, but you will also have to admit that he had only been in office a little over a year and was dealt a difficult hand. I am not saying that Bush himself is the only reason for our current safety, but he took initiative against a formidable adversary in the best interest of the American people. In which case the majority of Americans agreed that action had to be taken to counteract any future attacks. No one can see the future, how many people thought that the war would last this long, I didn't. But I will continue to support our military's efforts.

As for Glenn Beck, his program gives more background information on new government appointments and legislation then any other program on any network. Yes, he can get a little a wild and weird sometimes, but everything he says is backed up by hard facts and statistics. He always has an expert in whatever particular area he is covering and he always allows people with whom he disagrees to assert their beliefs.

With everything that Obama has done so far during his administration, the only word you could hope to use is "socialist". He is implementing every dream that Karl Marx could have wished for in this country, thus creating a socialist government. He has brought out the Czars, we are not communist Russia, are we? The idea of having a government official who sits above the law and cannot be investigated is outrageous. Obama's newly appointed Green Czar, Van Jones is a confessed radical communist, with a rap sheet. Since when can someone take a government office without having a background check, let alone have a conviction? I'll tell you when, since Obama became president and decided that America needed Czars to get things done. He promised change, but those who voted for him weren't really listening to what kind. And now all I see is America suffering a slow and painful death.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 25, 2009 11:41:06 AM PDT
Ok, you seem rational and then you spew something straight from Beck's mouth. This czar business is just something that some conservatives have gotten themselves all worked up about. Obama is not the one terming them "czars." In fact, Van Jones's official title is actually Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise, and Innovation. In fact, the term "czar" has been used by the media to refer to special advisors dating all the way back to Pres. Nixon in the 70's. No American president has actually appointed a "czar" of any kind, that is a media term. In fact during George W. Bush's presidency he appointed what were termed "cybersecurity czar," "regulatory czar," "AIDS czar," "bird-flu czar," "katrina czar," and eventualy "Iraq War czar." Was Bush trying to turn the country in Russia too? Look, I actually agree with you that these positions are generally useless and should be held to a higher accountability, but I would be willing to bet that you can't find an example of Glenn Beck ranting about any other President's "czars."

To briefly touch on the "cutting heads off" point, yet again, you said above that Bush was responsible for not letting that happen. Of course, it happens overseas, but has never been a problem here in the U.S. You implied that without Bush I couldn't walk down the street with my head intact. And, of course, the military has kept us safer throughout our history. I'm not disputing that.

As far as how many blue collar workers are on the west coast and in the northeast, that's really hard to determine. It seems that you are only considering folks who work on farms to be blue collar workers. By that definition of course there are not many in big cities. However, there are an abundance of what I would consider blue collar jobs in NYC including construction, plumbing, mechanics, the folks who operate and maintain our mass transit system, shipyards, etc. That's not to mention the huge service industry here which would include restaurant workers, cab drivers, hotel service, etc who make little money and put in extended hours.

Oh, and one more thing on Van Jones. He's not a convict, despite what Mr. Beck would have you believe. He was arrested in San Francisco, however, he was released and actually compensated for the wrongful arrest. He was never charged or convicted of anything.

Lastly, it's funny that you would "never go around using demeaning language to stereotype any region of our country," but you have absolutely no problem with saying that the President of "our country" is intentionally leading us toward a "slow and painful death." Hilarious line of thinking. Obama must be some kind of traitor.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 26, 2009 10:41:05 AM PDT
Silver Snake says:
Trust me, I am rational and what I stated was not only from Glenn Beck's mouth but from every other news agency out there, though their perspectives might differ just a bit. They see nothing wrong with giving a communist governmental power. They think its OK for a person like Van Jones to be appointed without undergoing Congressional approval. So let's get this straight. The term "czar" is a political term as well as a term used by the media thus making it appropriate to use in describing these types of advisors. Here is a definition of CZAR from dictionary.com. A czar is "any person exercising great authority or power in a particular field: a czar of industry." Now doesn't that sound like an appropriate title for President Obama's 32 Special Advisors, which includes 8 czars from the Bush Administration which are still in effect? I mean they are supposedly the best and most qualified individuals for their particular appointments according to our president and his cabinet. And yes I am aware that President Bush had these types of officials in his administration. But what President Bush didn't have was Czars (Special Advisors) with connections to radical organizations like President Obama's Czars do. So, NO President Bush was not trying to turn the country into communist nation!!!

Though you may not like Glenn Beck he has a very informative webpage that talks about the czars. It lists the czar title, the person appointed, their responsibilities, and their backgrounds. It includes all the previous czar positions appointed by President Bush as well, whether the same individuals are still there or if they are new I do not know. But all their information is there.
Here is the link if you wish to look at it. http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29391/

I used the example of Van Jones strictly because of his statements which can be found on any search engine. And he may not have been convicted of a crime but he was involved in protests which lead to his arrest and his appointment does not allow him to be investigated. He answers only to President Obama, just as President Bush's czars did, but they were not involved in radical activities. Here is one of his statements concerning his views of society and political affiliations. This statement was made by Van Jones after his arrest & detainment during the Rodney King verdict riots. "I met all these young radical people of color - I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary," says Van Jones. And another quote, "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist." Seeing as the Rodney King verdict occurred in 1992 this means that Van Jones has been a communist for 17 years, regardless of any of his recent statements. Now does that sound like the kind of person that should hold a federally appointed position in a democratic society, I don't think so. We have enough problems without having a radical self-proclaimed communist telling us how to be "green". He doesn't want to create jobs for the unemployed, he wants to give jobs to inmates as a means to rehabilitate them into society. Those people are serving time in prison for a reason, they broke the law in some facet.

Once again with the assumptions that you seem to love making. You chose the term traitor to describe the president, not me. I in NO way stated or implied that Obama was a traitor. I stated my feelings about the steady decline of America's economy and long standing traditions. My statement that America is suffering from a slow and painful death is in NO way using stereotypes or demeaning language for any region of the United States. And if you don't think the government, both past & present, hasn't been adding to the decline then you must not get out much. So, as one of my other favorite news anchors says "if you wish to opine" feel free.

Posted on Aug 26, 2009 11:03:43 AM PDT
You really went off the rails there, so I'm just going to give up. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about at this point. Glenn Beck is obsessed with Van Jones b/c Van Jones was once tied to the organization who is now organizing advertising boycotts of Glenn Beck's show. That is the only reason. Also, hate to break it to you that being arrested does not mean you are guilty of anything. He was quickly released and compensated for being arrested illegally. I don't deny he once held communist beliefs, but where does your information that he only wants to give green jobs to inmates. I'm sure from the Glenn Beck show. I don't even feel like debunking your arguments anymore so let's just all move on. Just remember that when you're watching Glenn Beck tonight that you are being completely manipulated for your laziness to actually look things up on your own.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 26, 2009 11:35:15 AM PDT
snowleopard says:
Limbaugh makes more money than the president! and are you better off now than you were last year. do you and everyone you know still have a job?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 26, 2009 11:51:57 AM PDT
snowleopard, I"m not even sure what argument you are trying to make here. A lot of people make more money than the President. President's salary is $400,000. Most tv personalities make more than this, right or left. Not to mention almost every famous actor, professional athlete, etc. So there's one worthless argument. As far as whether I'm better off, I can't really say I'm better off, but I'm not worse off. I know a few people who have lost jobs but they honestly lost them last fall when the economy plunged. I'm assuming you're trying to say it's Obama's fault, but he wasn't President then, soooooo........... Nice try

Posted on Aug 26, 2009 11:52:56 AM PDT
David Shane says:
Big Nate, Glenn was talking about Van Jones before the boycott began. If anything his delving triggered the boycott, not the other way around.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 26, 2009 11:58:54 AM PDT
David Shane, you could be right, the LA Times seems to disagree, but I haven't paid enough attention to the whole situation, honestly. Now I'm sure everyone will just begin dismissing the LA Times as a "liberal elite biased rag," which is always a great way to kill any debate:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/glenn-beck-ignores-ad-boycott.html

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 27, 2009 4:26:59 AM PDT
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Silver Snake says:
Glenn Beck isn't focusing only on Van Jones. He has addressed many of the other advisors, because each one has side projects that are benefiting from these "special advisors" appointments. He has discussed pretty much every other "special advisor" that both Bush & Obama has appointed. Let me ask you this. Why does Obama need 32 "special advisors", huh? Could it be that Obama doesn't have the experience necessary to properly manage the country like he claimed he could. He has appointed 24 "special advisors" in 7 months, Bush only had 8 "special advisors" in 8 years. On every issue Obama has to have someone whispering in his ear so he'll know what to do and most of the time its supporting his "special advisors" special interests.

In case you haven't noticed, everything that I have stated in my early posts came from multiple sources, including Glenn Beck. I watch all the new stations just to see how the same stories vary and you'd be amazed at how much they actually do. After learning about a topic whether from Fox News or MSNBC or CNN or any other news broadcaster, I do further research online. So don't try and pretend that you are the ONLY one who is well informed in this discussion. Other people have made constructive comments in this discussion as well. So why is it that no matter what anyone says you are constantly implying that they make no legitimate point? Also, you must be watching the Glenn Beck program otherwise you wouldn't know what he said in relation to other people's posts, so apparently you are also being lazy & manipulated by your own desires to try and be a liberal antagonist. Either way, all political discussions come to the same conclusion. Everyone has to agree to disagree, but the facts are still out there for all to see if they so desire. It kind of rhymes doesn't it.

Posted on Aug 27, 2009 6:48:54 AM PDT
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