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42 of 43 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars "We knew not whether we were on earth or in heaven..."
I'll say right off what my quibble with this well-written study is: it would rate 5+ stars if it were illustrated. It is really too bad the publishers didn't bother to put in a few portraits of various Patriarchs of Constantinople, several representative Icons, a map of the city showing the Phanar, and some photos of the remaining churches and chapels. We have plenty of...
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3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting, if you like the topic
The product was received in excellent condition in a Manila envelope. The product was listed as new condition as it was except for writing on the cover.. I'm not sure if it is in buy back condition at any book stores or universities. The price was very well priced compared to other places that I checked out before purchasing this one.
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42 of 43 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars "We knew not whether we were on earth or in heaven...", April 3, 2000
This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
I'll say right off what my quibble with this well-written study is: it would rate 5+ stars if it were illustrated. It is really too bad the publishers didn't bother to put in a few portraits of various Patriarchs of Constantinople, several representative Icons, a map of the city showing the Phanar, and some photos of the remaining churches and chapels. We have plenty of this sort of thing in books on western Christianity; why not in a book about eastern Orthodoxy? That said, it is an excellent read. It took me awhile to pick it up, perhaps out of fear of it being too "scholarly". Once underway, I was very much engaged by it, and it filled in a significant gap in my knowledge of the eastern churches. I'm grateful to Runciman for having given me a learning experience, which I wish I could say about many other authors, but can't. This is strongly recommended for students of Christian and near- and middle-eastern history, Orthodox believers who want to know more about their faith, and readers who like to explore what happens when cultures collide. I enjoyed reading this while curled up in a big comfy chair with a pot of tea. A nicely written study of a neglected part of human history!
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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing!, January 15, 1999
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
The book discusses in detail the many adventures that the Orthodox Church has been through during its long reign. Very few historians have covered the Great Church in such a detailed fashioned. Runciman is a very good historian and it's a shame that some of his other books are out-of-print.
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15 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Enlightening, April 7, 2004
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
The dilemma facing English speakers of Greek decent is that there are so few books written in English on Greek medieval history, and I can think of none written specifically on the Orthodox Church during the turkocratia, except of course Runciman's "The Great Church in Captivity". At first, I was skeptical. After all, Runciman is an Englishman and I was leery about potential ignorance or bias which could seep its way into his book. No need to be concerned. Runcimen's book is a well researched and a thorough history on the subject. I could hardly put it down.

Generally, the book was easy to read and very informative. One chapter deals heavily with theology, and finding the subject brain numbing, I must admit, I skipped over most it. No matter, the balance of the book, which deals with Church history, was very enlightening. I do have one issue with Runcimen's account, however. Greek history teaches that during the captivity, Greek children were taught Greek by the clergy, under covert conditions, usually at night in underground caves, so as to not alert the Turks. By doing this, the Greek people were able to maintain their identity through language and religion, and resist turkification. This is a fact of paramount significance to the Greek people, a legend of heroism passed down from generation to generation, yet there is no mention of it by Runciman. Even though this account was omitted, there is so much content in this book, that I highly recommend it to those interested in the history of the Orthodox Church.

To Greeks: A bit of warning to the wide-eyed and uninitiated: You were not taught this history at home or in Sunday school, so you may be shocked by some of this. I was.

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9 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars A good starting place., July 24, 1999
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
Sadly, this is the only book on the topic in English. Runciman's treatment of theological disputes the Orthodox subjects of the Turks knew to be of prime importance is often dismissive, and one can wonder about the historical judgement that led him to devote so much space to the Constantinopolitan Patriarchate's response to feelers from various religious rebels (i.e., Protestants) from the Latin west; there never was much chance either that the Protestants would surrender to Tradition or that the Mother Church would allow them to be deluded into thinking themselves Orthodox. Still, this is a good book, full of information readers who don't know, e.g., French and modern Greek won't find elsewhere.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Another great book by Steven Runciman, November 3, 2006
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
I'll be honest with you.The only reason I bought this book, was because I'd already read all of Runciman's "real" history books and just wanted to complete my collection.Church history and theology aren't exactly my cup of tea.So, I thought I'd open it, start reading and fall asleep after page....ix.But I was wrong of course.I underestimated Runciman's ability to make even a debate about the role of Epiklesis in Transubstantiation appear interesting.No,really,I'm being serious.This is a well-written and interesting book that provides an answer, from a unique perspective, to the question everyone has after reading the "Fall of Constantinople": "Well,what happened next?"
We also get a deeper insight on Runciman's own ideas about religion and theology that we only catch a glimpse of, in his most ...ermm, "secular" works.
This book also piqued my interest on a more personal level as well, being (nominally) Orthodox.For anyone who has read his books, it's not a secret where Runciman' s sympathies lay - and he certainly tries to explain and excuse many "unfortunate" acts and decisions on behalf of the Orthodox Church.But be warned - this isn't a rose-tinted hagiography - the story of the "Great Church" in "captivity" becomes literally nauseating at times, and it doesn't lack in cynicism and petty squabling.It certainly didn't make me want to get rid of that pesky "nominally" in front of my religion....
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A Must Read For Christian History Enthusiasts!, December 26, 2004
This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
This gifted British historian captures you with his prose and holds on to you with his glorious tale and historiography which is second to none. A must read for anyone interested in the Orthodox Church or Christianity. He deals with his subject with a sense of empathy without losing his objectivity. A must buy!!!!!
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant and enlightening!, December 15, 2003
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
The Great Church in Captivity is indispensable for anyone interested in the tragedy of Byzantium's demise. Sir Steven Runciman provides an excellent overview on the Patriarchate before the abomination of Ottoman domination and provides a unique glimpse into the fate of the Greek people and their Great Church under centuries of Turkish occupation. A definite must-read indeed.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars tremendously valuable insight, February 23, 2008
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
Runciman is probably the ranking master of Eastern Orthodox history, and his insights shed light on all religious traditions of the world. As the Eastern churches passed under many political masters, Runciman traces how they adjusted and survived. Often they were treated as subject communities, under threat of collective punishments for any disobedience from groups or individuals in their midst. For example, under Ottoman rule Greek Orthodox Patriarch Gregory V felt constrained, both by his Turkish rulers and his own religious tradition, to condemn the rising movement for Greek national freedom. In his "Paternal Exhortation" of 1790, Gregory called Greek Christians to remember that God had placed them under the Ottoman Sultan. Therefore their cry for political freedom was "an enticement of the Devil and a murderous poison destined to push the people into disorder and destruction". Later, Patriarch Gregory threatened to excommunicate any local priests who aided or sheltered Greek freedom-fighters. No doubt the patriarch knew his own life depended on giving such orders, and on his church obeying them. The Ottoman rulers had already killed, enslaved, or exiled seven Orthodox patriarchs for failing to control their subordinates. And when Gregory failed to halt the movement for Greek independence, the Ottomans killed him too.

These accounts highlight the injustice of collective punishment as we still see it in the modern world. And the whole book gives tremendously valuable background on the whole cultural life of modern East Europe.

--author of Correcting Jesus
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An Invaluable Resource, March 2, 2006
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This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
It is rare to find a work of excellent scholarship that is also very readable. Runciman has once again achieved this result.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A must for anyone wishing to understand the Greek Church, August 6, 1998
This review is from: The Great Church in Captivity: A Study of the Patriarchate of Constantinople from the Eve of the Turkish Conquest to the Greek War of Independence (Paperback)
A thorough, understandable and entertaining history of the Greek Orthodox Church from the fall of Byzantium to the eve of Greek independence. Sir Steven Runciman, the world's foremost Byzantine authority, excels in his down to earth scholarly style. A must for Byzantine scholars, history buffs, and for those wishing to understand the Orthodox Church.
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