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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Response to "How Do We Know?", January 4, 2009
This review is from: Guardians of the Flutes, Volume 1: Idioms of Masculinity (Paperback)
I have not yet read this book, but I will be reading it in the coming semester for a college course.

I want to respond to the person below who believes that using a fake name for the tribe somehow implies that the author is lying. This is absolutely not the case. Readers must keep in mind that this book is an ethnography, and Herdt, the author, is an anthropologist. It is standard anthropological practice to disguise the names of groups and people involved in anthropological studies. Anonymity is extremely important in a study such as this one because it allows people to disclose potentially dangerous information without fear. The use of pseudonyms does not take away from the credibility of the work.
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6 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars One of the most important books ever written...., February 10, 2007
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Geoff Puterbaugh (Chiang Mai, T. Suthep, A. Muang Thailand) - See all my reviews
...about this subject.

One reviewer whines "How Do We Know?" and thereby implies directly that the author is a liar, and made up everything reported in this book.

While that person may choose to remain in darkness, this book was very well received among professionals, who realized at once that it added more detail (a lot more detail) to the generally known facts about sexuality in New Guinea. In fact, there are many other tribes, reported in the literature, who practice the same system of sexuality -- with the perhaps interesting exception that the sexuality is not oral but via the posterior route.

As for disguising the name of the tribe, it seems to me that Herdt has really done something quite remarkable: he has protected his sources. There is no tribe called the "Sambia" in New Guinea, but there is the tribe which Herdt studied, and one of the key elements in their system of male sexuality is that it must be kept SECRET.

In this, I must confess that by the age of 60 I have seen this sort of behavior all over the world: men can have all the sex they want together, but it is imperative not to scare the horses. DON'T let the women know.

If Herdt had published his book with the tribe's real name, he would have blown their cover. I congratulate him for not doing so.

As for what the Sambia are up to, I would suggest reading the book, and not counting on a book review to fill you in on all the details. But as a very high-level view, the Sambia have a superstitious belief that a young boy's development into a full-fledged male is a highly doubtful procedure -- not guaranteed by the spirits or the gods. So they practice "boy invigoration," which entails the young boy receiving regular doses of masculinity. When the boy reaches puberty, the magic has obviously worked, so it is time for him to reverse roles and begin helping the younger ones.

All in all, this is one of the most fascinating books I have ever read. It's true to say, "We're not in Kansas any more, Dorothy." No, we're in the steamy jungle islands of New Guinea and Papua New Guinea, and learning about some of the very flexible limits of human sexuality.

Highest possible recommendation!
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4.0 out of 5 stars A double standard, December 26, 2011
This review is from: Guardians of the Flutes, Volume 1: Idioms of Masculinity (Paperback)
Homosexual behavior is illegal in Papua New Guinea and especially if the younger partner is less than 17 years old. That of course means that all of the sexual behavior reported in this book was illegal. This is presumably why Herdt disguised the identity of the tribe. He didn't want to set the men up for arrest. Several reviewers have justified this by saying that it is standard anthropological practice to protect the sources. But it seems to me that here we have a blatant double standard. The Catholic church has practiced extensive coverups with regard to priests having sex with boys. The officials at Penn State did the same thing with Sandusky. This has provoked universal outrage. How are anthropologists exempt from having to report such behavior? Who has exempted them?
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5.0 out of 5 stars no easy titbits, August 6, 2011
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This review is from: Guardians of the Flutes, Volume 1: Idioms of Masculinity (Paperback)
This book promises a fascinating insight to a rare Papuan tribe...........ts not an easy read..........a lot of illuminating footnotes.........amazing dedication to very serous research by the author.No regrets about buying it but be prepared for a heavy read.
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3 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An academic text on male sexual initiation in PNG., February 16, 1999
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This book describes in detail the initiation of boys in the Sambia of Papua New Guinea, an isolated and "primitive" tribe who believe that masculine characteristics can only by aquired by boys through ingesting the semen of older men. The flutes symbolize the magic of the oral copulation stage through which the boys must go to be considered adult males.
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3 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars An Academic study of the Sambia in PNG, February 16, 1999
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An investigation into the lives of the Sambia people of Papua New Guinea, an isolated and "primative" tribe who believe that boys must ingest semen in order to reach full adulthood.

The flutes are magic phallic objects which the men of the tribe use in initiation cermonies to introduce the boys to the ritualized sexual contacts.

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3 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars how do we know?, June 9, 2004
Although an excellent study if all of this is true, it remains to be seen whether it is in fact true. Herdt admits that the name of the Sambia is a fake name that he gave them to protect their identity. There is therefore no way for other researchers to study this tribe and compare notes. How do we know that this tribe exists at all? All of the other studies of homosexual customs among New Guinea tribesman describe sodomy as their exclusive mode of behaviour. The Sambia are the one and only tribe of this region to practice fellatio. Why is this tribe out of sync with all of the other tribes? It makes me wonder.
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Guardians of the Flutes, Volume 1: Idioms of Masculinity by Gilbert H. Herdt (Paperback - December 15, 1994)
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