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5.0 out of 5 stars
Best bang for your 64bit buck!, January 22, 2005
This review is from: HP Pavilion a810n Desktop PC (AMD Athlon 64 3300+ Processor, 512 MB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, Dbl Layer 16X DVD+/-RW/CR-RW Drive, CD-ROM Drive) (Personal Computers)
HP Pavilion a810n (ready to ship version of the a850e series)
Factory Specs:
Processor: AMD® Athlon™ 64 3300+ processor (2.40GHz)
OS: Windows XP Home SP2
Memory: 512MB DDR PC3200
Graphics card: Integrated SiS® Mirage2 Graphics with 128MB shared video memory
Hard drive: 160GB Ultra DMA [gigabyte is defined as 1,000,000,000 bytes, accessible capacity may vary]
Primary CD/DVD drive: Double Layer DVD±R/RW drive with CD writer capabilities
Secondary CD/DVD drive: CD-ROM
Memory slots: 2 DIMM (one available)
Front-access ports: 9-in-1 memory card reader; 3 USB 2.0 ports; 1 FireWire (IEEE 1394) port; microphone/headphone/line-in
Communications: Integrated 10/100Base-T network interface; 56K fax/modem
Sound: Integrated audio
A couple of things about the factory specs:
- With the factory setting (128MB shared video memory) and no additional RAM installed you are actually working with 384MB of RAM right out of the box. You can however enter the BIOS and change the video memory to 64MB or 32MB to free up some RAM.
- The 160GB hard drive is actually partitioned, one drive (C) is actually 142GB and obviously is the main partition where all your files will be managed, and the other drive (D) 6.06GB and is locked and contains all the factory reformat files, this way HP (as many other companies do) can save money and not actually send you a factory recovery disk. Now how 142 + 6.06 = 160GB is obviously PC maker new math and is why they add accessible capacity may vary to the system specs.
I used it as it came out of the box for a while (1+ week) and my initial impression was that even with using it at the factory configuration of 384MB of RAM it was much faster than my old Athlon 1300+ with 768MB of RAM (which granted isn't very hard). The first thing that you notice about it is how incredibly quiet it is, you turn it on and if there weren't lights on the front you would honestly think that it wasn't running, and it's not that it doesn't have fans, it does indeed have two, one on the CPU cooler and one on the rear of the case (inside). I ran very intensive program combinations (i.e. Adobe Photoshop + Trillian 3 Pro(which oddly enough is a memory hog) + Excel, Word, Outlook 2003) with no sign of stutter what so ever. I even traded up the old Microsoft keyboard I was using in favor of the new quiet key keyboard that came with the PC.
Pros:
- Quiet (Very quiet)
- 64 bit processor
- Double layer DVD burner (does not include the LightScribe HP DVD burner)
- Price (sub $700 system after rebates)
- Interesting bunch of included software including a DVD authoring/editing program, MSN Money 2005 (OEM), Quicken
- 7 total USB 2 ports (4 back, 3 front)
- 2 FireWire ports (1 front, 1 back)
- 9 in 1 memory card reader is very convenient
- Sound is very decent (but that could be attributed to my Bose MediaMate Speakers)
- Integrated video card performs better than expected playing newer games, with no stutter
Cons:
- 128MB of shared video memory, I don't understand why PC makers don't just place a chip of memory the size of the "shared" video memory into one of the DIMM slots...it isn't going to break the bank.
- Integrated video
- Integrated audio
- Slathering of HP specific drivers/programs preinstalled
- Mail-in rebate...if you are planning on giving money back just do it - when will companies realize that if they just take money off at the time of purchase they will indeed be saving money by not having to hire an outside firm to handle the rebates
- Secondary drive is a CD-ROM only; in my opinion another DVD (plain with no writing ability) is more user friendly
My upgrades and would suggest to anyone:
Add another 512MB PC3200 DDR Ram to make a total of 1GB and replace the onboard graphic with a card like a 128MB Video Card GeForce FX 5200.
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19 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Great Base System, March 10, 2005
This review is from: HP Pavilion a810n Desktop PC (AMD Athlon 64 3300+ Processor, 512 MB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, Dbl Layer 16X DVD+/-RW/CR-RW Drive, CD-ROM Drive) (Personal Computers)
I can't believe Gadgester is a top reviewer. All of that garbage about the 3300 not being a 64bit processor is wrong. Anybody who has followed the life cycle of the AMD64, knows that one problem AMD faced with the processors was the cost to produce them. By reducing the cache AMD was able to significantly lower production cost while not sacrificing much performance. While the size of a cache does affect performance, the machne needs to be running at full capacity for it to become an issue. Pentiums went to 1mb caches because their old
architectures generates bottlenecks while playing process intensive games and such. I suggest doing your homework before spouting BS.
Take this box and add a video card and some memory and you have one nice system.
If you can install XP pro and delete all of the spam software HP installs on these boxes. My bootup went from 1 minute to 20 secs.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Great computer but one serious flaw, March 14, 2005
This review is from: HP Pavilion a810n Desktop PC (AMD Athlon 64 3300+ Processor, 512 MB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, Dbl Layer 16X DVD+/-RW/CR-RW Drive, CD-ROM Drive) (Personal Computers)
I agree with most of the others here. This is a great box if you get rid of all the "extra" HP software you don't want or need. I removed over 1 gigabyte of "fluff". After doing that, adding another 512 Megs of ram, and tweaking XP, it runs quite fast. Next will be one of the new NVIDIA 6200 AGP cards that will be on the market next month. NVIDIA just announced this chip, and says it will be used in cards at "the $79 price point". If you want to add a 2nd hard drive, you will have to add a hard drive cage, as one is not supplied. This you can order from HP parts (800-227-8164) for $10.06 +shipping. The part # is 5069-7338.
Ok, now the serious flaw. I have a 160 gig Seagate external USB hard drive. HP a810n computers will not boot with this and I expect, other USB hard drives attached. It locks up at the blue bios screen with the drive access lights on solid on both the HP a810n and the USB hard drive. The same USB drive works fine with 5 other computers I tried, but not with my a810n, or another a810n I tried. After 3 weeks of working with HP support, they admit it is a bios problem and promise to fix it within the next week. I hope they do. Still, all in all, I'm happy with it.
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