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42 of 45 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A Good Solid Machine, July 22, 2007
This review is from: HP Pavilion Media Center M8120N Desktop PC (Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600, 3 GB RAM, 640 GB Hard Drive, Vista Premium) (Personal Computers)
I've had this HP for a week or two now. Its my fourth HP desktop over the years...I like HP, not because their product is superior (frankly I dont know if there's really a lot of difference between various manufacturers' products, since they basically install other companies' hardware ((like Intel's) and software (like Microsoft) in a computer case with their logo on it), but because I've found HP technical support to be superior when I've had problems over the years. (I recently bought a Toshiba laptop, and speaking with their "tech" reps was an amazingly frustrating experience -- I never thought I'd see the day when I'd know more than somebody getting paid to give me advice). As for this model, i'm pleased with its performance, though I do not recommend anyone buy a new computer so they can have Vista - trust me, its no great improvement over XP. But this HP has a lot of power, and most importantly, I got it with 3 GB RAM, which is not all that much in a "media" pc. The Windows Media Center is a simple but useful tool for bringing together TV, internet capabilities etc in one place. And there is a new disk burning capability built in that will do the job for most layman like me. (Dont rush into one of the video editing software packages now available--they are really big headaches for most users who have no interest in becoming computer technicians in their spare time). This one also has a good number of USB2 and firewire ports, and lots of inputs/outputs for speakers, media centers, DVDs etc. Like all computers these days, it comes loaded with software applications you probably dont want, and which are just there in the hopes you'll buy the "full" product. You'll want to uninstall a lot of this stuff, but wait a few weeks, so you dont accidentally uninstall a piece of software you wish you had kept a while... AND burn your backup emergency reinstallation DVDs right away...they dont come included with the computer these days. As usual with Amazon, delivery was amazingly fast -- it came one business day after I ordered it on-line -- and there are a few rebates that lower the price by about 15%.
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26 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Not perfect, but pretty darn good, August 13, 2007
This review is from: HP Pavilion Media Center M8120N Desktop PC (Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600, 3 GB RAM, 640 GB Hard Drive, Vista Premium) (Personal Computers)
Like a recent reviewer, I have also been comparing prices against a similarly configured Dell Machine (9200 with a quad-core). But to correct a few possible mis-perceptions: (1) While it is not possible to configure the Dell 9200 to the same specs as the HP m8120n, trying to do so would run about $1400-$1600. $700 is not a realistic price-point, as the base Dell system would not include: (a) the 3rd GB of RAM, (b) the dual TV tuner card, (c) the dual firewire inputs, (d) the wireless mouse/keyboard, or the PS2 ports (whooopee), (e) Windows Vista Home *Premium*, (f) gigabit ethernet, (g) the media-card reader, nor (h) the built-in WIFI (handy for those using the m8120n as a media center near the TV). The media expansion slot is another possible perk ($100 will buy you a portable 300GB HP drive, that has a USB port for universal hook-up). (2) By most accounts, HP build and customer support are a notch above Dell's. I personally have a 700m laptop that attests to the endless phone calls that occur with a defective Dell. (3) The m8120n does *not* have a 300GHz power supply, it has a 350 watt power supply. Nowhere have I read that installing a new power supply voids the warranty (it may be true), but just visit CC's website and you will see several users have upgraded it without incident. (4) The overall "low" Windows rating of 3.4 is very misleading. Two subscores (Windows Aero and gaming graphics) are due to the entry-level video card, while the other three scores on the stock system are 5.9, 5.5 and 5.8 (for processor, RAM, and hard drive, respectively). That is out of a possible 5.9 points, remember. As Windows explains it, the 3.4 "average" score is in fact given due to the lowest subscore. Several owners have also reported upgrading their video card to an nVidia 7- or 8-series without requiring a new power supply. (5) Speaking of video cards, the stock card (nVidia 7350LE) occupies the one PCI-express slot. If you hate it, pull it out and put in a new PCI-E card. There is also an occupied PCI slot with the modem in it, which I would pull out in a second if I wanted to put in a different PCI card (there is also a PCI-E 1-bit slot). My overall feeling is that I absolutely love the m8120n. I had been watching the Dell 9200 price weekly since April, and two weeks after I bought the HP the Dell price came tumbling down...it broke my cheap little heart, but I've since remembered all the troubles and pain caused by my Dell laptop. I think I swore a few times that I'd never buy another Dell (how easily we forget). But paired with a 22" Hanns.G monitor and Canon MF4150 all-in-one printer, the HP is a beautiful system, and everything works seamlessly. I might add that my son plays Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings (the video games) on our machine, and the video card does a superb job. I wouldn't expect it to keep up with a high framerate game, but for our purposes it fits the bill perfectly. Another thought: I originally scoffed at the built-in TV tuner card, but after the monitor arrived, I started Windows Media Center, and just for fun set it to record all the episodes of SpongeBob and Simpsons for my kids that it could find...a week later, and they have dozens of episodes (with 200 GB still left on the second hard drive) to watch. I call it "Daddie makes dinner (or mows the lawn) time". With a portable media player coming in a few weeks ( ARCHOS 605), I've started compressing the recorded episodes to 100MB each with a DivX converter...at that rate, the player will easily hold all of our DVDs plus day's worth of cartoons. By the way, let me share a naughty secret: Windows Media Center records in (what looks like) a proprietary .DVR-MS format. But drop that file into the included MyDVD Basic program that comes loaded on the m8120n, and guess what it does first? It asks if it can transcode (i.e., convert) the Media Center file into a different format...really, what it seems to be doing is stripping the DRM (digial rights management, i.e., copy protection), leaving you with a generic mpeg video file. Nice. (Update: I've been reading up on DRM, and realize my recordings thus far are not protected content...will update again later if MyDVD can indeed convert protected files.)
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25 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
HP and Microsoft put the WOW factor into this Media Desktop, July 22, 2007
This review is from: HP Pavilion Media Center M8120N Desktop PC (Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600, 3 GB RAM, 640 GB Hard Drive, Vista Premium) (Personal Computers)
On the M8120n Microsoft and HP have teamed up to put the WOW factor back into personal computing. The Vista home premium works to perfection and the HP support software and personal help line make using and supporting this computer a pleasure. Most of my questions are handled through a search function in Vista that takes me to answers. The HP telephone support line seems to be always available even at 11 PM PDT with fewer than 5 minutes to get a live person who is knowledgeable. My objective for this desktop was to run investment and home office applications and it does that without breathing hard. I thought the four processors in the machine would be overkill, and I guess it is because it never labors under the most demanding workloads with multiple applications running at the same time. At the same time I have been backing up, running Schwab Street Smart Pro, running a DOS program in the background, OneNote, word, using Quicken (a total of 95 processes) and showing CPU utilization in the 27% range and memory use of 1.56 GB out of the 3 GB available. The high speed memory is 3 GB, the maximum that the 32 bit Vista can handle; you have to go to 64 bit Vista to address more memory. The media capabilities were an afterthought for me. But what do you do after the markets close...opt for entertainment. And this machine has plenty of it. I hooked the 7.1 sound card to my Yamaha AV processor though the SPID digital cable out to the CD in on the Yamaha. That combination produces Dolby Digital or DTS surround sound through the speakers already cabled to the Yamaha. I set up a simple $10 antenna to receive 28 digital TV stations in Orange County, many of them broadcasting in HD. I haven's hooked up the cable antenna yet, but that is additionally available. TV show recording is a snap, one button to record a single show or a series; it is easier to use than my Time Warner cable recorder. The DVI cable from computer to the HP w2207 monitor provides the single cable HD content. With the HP remote control all multimedia selections are one click away. I discovered that while listening to disk stored music, a simple click for slide show randomly displays pictures from my picture gallery. A few hassles were encountered but solved quickly though HP live support. The wireless keyboard didn't work out of the box and the support person told me about the reset button that got them to sync up. The combination CD/DVD LightScribe player seems to address all available CD and DVD formats, however the support person told me about incompatibilities with some media manufactures, he mentioned Memorex, but my Memorex DVD-ROM reads and writes OK. Overall, this machine will not disappoint and provides the WOW above your expectations.
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