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Heliocentric

The OceanAudio CD
4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)

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  • Audio CD (April 13, 2010)
  • Original Release Date: 2010
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Metal Blade
  • ASIN: B0039L1J6G
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #28,601 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Shamayim
2. Firmament
3. The First Commandment of the Luminaries
4. Ptolemy Was Wrong
5. Metaphysics of the Hangman
6. Catharsis of a Heretic
7. Swallowed by the Earth
8. Epiphany
9. The Origin of Species
10. The Origin of God

Editorial Reviews

The songs, art and lyrics of Heliocentric tell the story of the rise of the heliocentric world view and its effects on Christian beliefs from medieval times to Darwin and Dawkins. Musically, Heliocentric covers the largest range of dynamics and styles The Ocean has ever endeavored. There are a few really calm songs with mainly piano and vocals, as well as some crushing heavy tunes. There is a very special atmosphere to it that pervades the album comments guitarist Jonathon Nido.

Heliocentric continues where the Proterozoic half of the Precambiran album left off, with dense, epic songs and big orchestrations. The album was mainly recorded in the mountainous isolation of La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, the highest city in Europe. He band recorded and mixed the album with the band s live sound engineer Julien Fehlmann. We wanted to be in control of every single detail and we have an amazing studio at our disposal. Sound-wise this is by far the best sounding album by The Ocean to date.

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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars The Good Out-weighs the Bad April 22, 2010
By Chris
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While I have to agree with the other reviewer that I was disappointed with the disc, I still have to give it four stars. The album doesn't have the same punch that the two previous albums, especially Aeolian, had, but I believe that was the point with this record.

From the soundscape opener to the closing saxophone work on "The Origin of God", the album has a lighter feeling to it. The album is far more mellow than the softest parts of the "Proterozoic" disc, but it is still interesting and will capture listeners to bring them back for follow-up listens.

The clean vocals and mixed with the growls in "Firmament" are the exception on this release as the clean vocals are more prevalent here. It works well with the song writing in a lot of places but the weaker points show themselves at times, such as on "The First Commandment Of The Luminaries" when the lyrics are sung "First there goes out the greatest light whose name is the sun."

The strangest part of the album is the highly experimental "Ptolemy Was Wrong" which will more than likely be panned by most critics and fans. The song honestly feels as if it is on the wrong album and the vocalist that was brought in for this song is a rather odd choice, too.

The high parts of the album, however, are very good by any standards. Previously mentioned "Firmament" is a great song which is followed by other strong pieces "Swollowe by the Earth" and "The Origin of Species". While these songs would be difficult to find a place on previous releases by The Ocean, they offer their own speacial something and very much outweigh the parts that listeners will skip.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Mixed feelings April 21, 2010
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This is a review I didn't want to write, and this is an album that I've tried very hard, through several listens, to ignore its shortcomings. As an album, this disc probably deserves three and a half or even four stars. But as an album by one of my favorite bands, The Ocean, I'm rather disappointed.

On one hand, the new direction taken by the prinicple member of the Ocean Collective (guitarist Jonathan Nido) seems like a natural enough evolution of the music, with more piano and strings throughout. And while there are still brutal passages peppered throughout the album, the real downfall of this "new collective" is the vocalist, newcomer Loic Rossetti. At times he comes across more as a contestant on American Idol than the frontman for one of the darkest, heaviest, most epic metal bands I've ever heard and loved.

Track 2 actually starts the album, as the first track is merely an ambient intro. This opener, "Firmament," gets us off to a flying start and is definitely a high point of the disc. Tool-esque rhythms, tension/release techniques, and even some brutality this early on would appear to set us on a path through the latest vision by an extrordinary group. Track 3 is also promising and even enjoyable, but still not quite what I've come to expect from The Ocean.

However, the path becomes quickly overgrown with too-perfect, radio-friendly vocal melodies and simplistic arrangements, which become almost unbearable on "Ptolemy Was Wrong," "Catharsis of a Heretic," and "Epiphany."

There are still high points throughout, and the melodic vocals, while still too pop-perfect, even work well sometimes, as on "Metaphysics of the Hangman" and "Swallowed by the Earth." Still, the death metal vocals are spot-on, and the music is really fantastic for the most part.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A new Ocean July 1, 2010
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I was initially underwhelmed by their latest effort Heliocentric, but that disc has proven to be a grower and I'm quite impressed with it. Many long-time Ocean fans may bemoan the new vocalist, but is he really any worse than anybody else they had in the past? I don' think so. And while his clean singing sounds a bit like Avenged Sevenfold's M. Shadows, he shows that he is capable of going from a light croon to a full-bodied roar.

The album itself has an excellent opener in Firmament (I don't really count the short intro track). The next couple of songs slowly sink the album into a lull and here's where a first time listener would begin to despair. But things really begin to pick up with Metaphysics Of The Hangman and Swallowed by The Earth. Epiphany is a quiet little ditty that features piano and string work that sounds like it could have been taken off of an early Tori Amos album. The lyrics of the song are incredibly introspective. And then we have the final two songs (The Origin Of Species, The Origin Of God) that share a common riff. This ending duology is worth the price of admission alone as once again the lyrics run very deep while the music builds to a massive climax. You will be hard pressed to find a more intense piece of music than the first 2 minutes of The Origin of God. What makes it even more stunning is that once the clean vocals kick in, there is hardly any guitar left in the mix at all. The accompaniment is almost all horns, yet it remains very heavy. How do they do that?

This album does not quite reach the heights of Fluxion or Precambrian, but is still a must-have if you are a fan of The Ocean. And for those of you just discovering this wonderful band, this would make a fine starting point as it is pretty accessible by Ocean standards. I'm really looking forward to the release of their next disc that compliments this one later in the year.

A strong 4 stars.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great album if you are open to bands trying new things.
I was initially drawn away from this album because I had heard so much flak from other Ocean fans. I finally decided to get this album and I am completely glad I did. Read more
Published 3 months ago by Keanu Krueger
3.0 out of 5 stars OK, but nothing special
In the World of post-metal, where Neurosis, Isis, and Cult of Luna set the bar, Ocean have songs that contend, but their albums seem to fall short with the lack of a hook those... Read more
Published 17 months ago by whr27
5.0 out of 5 stars They have done it again
I must admit that I was little hesitant to get this after reading all the mixed reviews. But I am really glad that I did. Read more
Published on September 23, 2011 by Shared Gum
5.0 out of 5 stars Contrary to Popular Opinion, I Like the New Direction
I don't typically write music reviews, but I felt compelled to add at least another 5 star recommendation for this album because it is one of my top albums of the year and I think... Read more
Published on November 11, 2010 by Andrew T. Adams
3.0 out of 5 stars not as heavy, but well done
First I want to say long live the CD! The Ocean maximizes this format with beautifully crafted artwork in each album, each one unique, and this one no different, with each song... Read more
Published on September 15, 2010 by R. Hill. Clark.
5.0 out of 5 stars AMAZING ALBUM
This album is amazing, best yet by the ocean and that's saying something. Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.Buy it.
Published on June 8, 2010 by Charles Dylan Rutherford
5.0 out of 5 stars Grew on me
Okay, to start there is a definite departure here from what the Ocean's first albums were. From absolute CRUSHING riffs found in Fluxion and Precambrian and lyrics more lyrics and... Read more
Published on May 19, 2010 by C. Kimble
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