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Index of Chapter Titles

  • Chapter 1 Summary Argument
  • Chapter 2 Jesus, Messiah of Levi
  • Chapter 3 Luke's Genealogy
  • Chapter 4 Mary the Mother of Jesus (Mariamne bat Antigonus)
  • Chapter 5 Mary Magdalene (Mariamne bat Aristobulus)
  • Chapter 6 Crucifixion of Jesus
  • Chapter 7 Paul of Tarsus (Phasaelus ben Timius)
  • Chapter 8 The Jesus Movement, Origins and Theology
  • Chapter 9 Antipater ben Herod (Father of Jesus)
  • Chapter 10 Josephus, Jewish Traitor
  • Chapter 11 Paul, Speculative Theories

About the Author

Joseph Raymond was raised in a devout Roman Catholic family in St. Louis, MO USA and educated in Catholic schools. He received degrees from two Jesuit universities graduating law school in 1986. Thereafter, he served as a Department of Justice lawyer in Washington, DC but later left the practice of law to found an internet company. In 1988, he began a spiritual journey of study and reflection largely focused upon the origins of Christianity. Once started, the journey is never complete.  In January of 2012, Joseph Raymond gave an on-camera interview in Los Angeles with Karga Seven Pictures regarding theories contained in Herodian Messiah for a documentary on the Discovery Channel called "Jesus Conspiracies".  I appeared in episodes 1 and 3 of the series.

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Product Details

  • Paperback: 278 pages
  • Publisher: Tower Grove Publishing (February 14, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0615355080
  • ISBN-13: 978-0615355085
  • Product Dimensions: 6 x 0.6 x 9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (14 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,403,709 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful By Sejanus on November 16, 2011
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Herodian Messiah is one of the most fascinating books I've ever read.

The story of Jesus, or at least that of his family, is vitally important to our understanding of the modern world, especially the tensions among the three religions at the heart of today's conflicts. This is a key point of understanding: that the life of Christ is central to understanding politics and power discourse in Western history. He is important as narrative certainly, but more invisibly his life is important because of little understood connections to the development of Imperial Rome at its brith. Jesus' family was instrumental in developing events leading to the The Great Revolt, and the effects of that war still resonate today in important yet unseen ways. Its importance translates into the shaping of the moral outlook of a significant piece of the world's population. The better we understnd who Jesus was, the more likely we are to deal intelligently with our global political realities. Raymond's Herodian Messiah is one of the most insightful contributions there is in aiding this understanding. Historians and Biblical scholars concerned with tradition, people like Bart Ehrman, Robert Eisenman, Elaine Pagels, James Tabor, and Robin Lane Fox, to name a few, are controversial precisely because they investigate the impact of altered power discourses on modern society, and they attempt to answer where so many refuse to question. Raymond's book is a very important contribtuion to this body of work that attempts to answer the riddles of our discursive heritage. Because he draws out conclusions from meticulously compiled evidence, Raymond is able to venture where few others have been able to do so. His training as a lawyer has equipped him with the tools (and the attention to detail) that others perhaps lack.
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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful By M. Kinney on May 17, 2010
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I found this book while doing research on the genealogies of Christ, as written in Matthew and Luke's gospels. It gave me an entirely different feel for the era, and a new insight into the life and time of Christ.
Even among Bible scholars, these two genealogies are not only difficult to reconcile, but 36 out of the 45 names listed in Luke's genealogy of Christ are unaccounted for in the Old Testament.
In "Herodian Messiah," the author introduces the concept that perhaps 5 of the names listed in Luke actually point to the Hasmonean Dynasty. He then brings to light all of the intrigue surrounding the politics of Rome and the Kingdom of Judea, including the historic religious and social upheavals, leading up to and converging at the time of Christ.
As the Hasmonean Dynasty gave way to the Herodian Dynasty, it may very well be that the last Hasmonean Princess (the daughter of Matattayah Antigonus) gave birth to a son, who was Jesus the Christ.
While we tend to focus our attention on his future role as "King of Kings"(at his second coming) the Hebrews of his day once welcomed him into Jerusalem crying out;

Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. John 12:13

There is more to this story than you know.
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By timothy a murphy on February 7, 2011
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This is a fascinating book. If you're at all interested in the facts behind Christian canon (and mythology), you will find them here in abundance. Terrifically researched, dense but digestible, iconoclastic without irreverence, Herodian Messiah challenges you to think critically about the factual basis of ancient scriptures. This is not a book about faith, it's a book about fact, with some very interesting theories to fill gaps left in the contemporary record. Highly recommended, just be sure to read it with an open mind.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful By Ronald P. Cirafice on February 20, 2012
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TO BE Honest i'm not Really religious & Not at all an Atheist ! even though i was once a Roman Catholic. But I was always seeking the true story of a Man born of a women named Yeshua Ben Yoseph aka Jesus the Christ . Ever since i was a young child and attended Catholic schools i always had Doubts that Christian Story of Jesus was True. and had the feeling that Jesus was a Fable with no Real Family History. Its really a shame the church has covered up and twisted the life of a Man who only wanted people respect eachother . Help and love our fellow man. and do no harm to anyone. & What he also wanted was his Kingdom that was his Birth Right as a King after all he was of Royal Blood throught his Mother Mary --aka Mariamne Bat Antigonus Her Father was King Antigonus . Mariamne was first married to Antipater Herod who was a son of King Herod. Jesus True Earthly Father. Jesus real Family name was Antigonus Ben Antipater . & Jesus was the Great Grandson of King Herod. This book is a real eye opener of what the World should know But has been Suppressed By Corrupt Religious Christian Leaders. Jesus was a King not a Man Created God ! he was Human as the New Testament states 81 times Jesus said i'm the Son of Man ! Buy and read this Book there is something in it for everyone
I Give it a 5 STAR
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful By cynthia dash on October 18, 2014
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I am particularly interested in the lengthy comment on this thread re. Chapter 2, etc. And, I think it's still most relevant and appropriate for Raymond to respond.
As well, I hope Raymond is in process of writing a revised edition.
There has been a lot of attention to this monumental task on topic online that 1st came to my attention 2009 approximate.
Possibly in connection with Raymond (possibly not) I am currently reading a book by Ahmed Osman, Moses and Akhenaten. This book tackles equally difficult theorum to Raymond ' s only happened some 1500 years before Jesus lived.
We all should note: consciousness and conscious awareness in the time of Moses, let alone Jesus was not the same level as we understand consciousness today (or mayhap it was?)
In both cases of both leaders, if we agree both leaders did, in fact live---apparently both possesed advanced levels of conscious awareness yet they managed to ' dummy down' concepts impossible for them to have rationally explained thus, they led large groups of followers, some of whom were just barely "waking up" by appealing to masses in (miraculous?) terms they evidently could get. Notable historians ie. Josephus maybe either/or: in addition to their own personal spins on history for whatever reasons may not have been functioning on all that highly advanced levels of consciousness themselves. As evidenced still seen today's 'modern world' people would rather be told what they think rather than have to think things up for themselves.
As for Jesus, I think it would lend a lot of credibility to Raymond ' s theory if we had a better idea of where Jesus spent most of his life.
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