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312 of 324 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Read this AND Iron John
This is a book for men with a sense of humor. Most importantly, it is a book for men who want to get physical with attractive, interesting women. Toward that end, the book is chocked full of outstanding suggestions. But the most two important pieces of manly advice in the book are: 1. draw validation from your own life, not from relationships with women, and 2. seek...
Published on August 27, 2000

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74 of 85 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Good - but not for me (a note to disappointed readers)
I think the book can be very good for many people (as other reviews indicate). However, I think the audience for the book isn't 'anyone with male genitals'.

Imagine the CEO of a near-bankruptcy company taking a course on how to increase profits from 50 cents per share to 52. That sums up the experience for me. If your goal is to get a better margin - i.e. get more and...

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312 of 324 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Read this AND Iron John, August 27, 2000
By A Customer
This is a book for men with a sense of humor. Most importantly, it is a book for men who want to get physical with attractive, interesting women. Toward that end, the book is chocked full of outstanding suggestions. But the most two important pieces of manly advice in the book are: 1. draw validation from your own life, not from relationships with women, and 2. seek confident women who draw validation from their own lives--who are not needy. I think this sort of confidence begins with humor and a willingness to see dating for what it is: a game. Many times in order to meet the right woman, the book maintains, a man needs to play the "numbers" game. Meeting, dating, and sharing physical intimacy with a variety of women is a healthy part of a single man's life.

I realize not everyone feels this way. I read the 90 plus reviews and realized that it is a "love it or hate it" book. Understandably so. Most of the book's detractors fall into recognizable categories: men who don't want to be told the obvious (make your car clean & romantic, dress nice); men who have sensitive dispositions; and women who find the book downright offensive.

Many of the men and women who wrote scathing reviews indicated that any man who tries the suggestions in the book is simply an immoral opportunist. I want especially to address this issue. It is never wrong to create a romantic atmospshere on a date. Anyone who thinks otherwise would most likely not make a pleasant date. If your desire is to compliment, to touch a woman both physically and emotionally, then you should do just that, and do what is necessary toward that end.

The books maintains three important things: 1. it makes perfect sense to have a number of romantic possibilities while one is single; 2. it makes sense to choose dates who are creative, warm, and physical; and 3. it makes sense to choose relationships that work. Naturally, when relationships become draining and destructive, they should not continue. One of the finest chapters in the book is "When Babes Attack: Handling Problems Women Cause." The message: it is just as important to know who NOT to date as who TO date. The authors reiterate that it is not a man's responsibility to shoulder a woman's neuroses, bad attitudes, or problems. Their assessment about low, middle, and high maintenance women is right on the mark. And their suggestions on how to keep away from trouble and steer toward pleasant dating experiences makes a great deal of sense to me.

I think the book is self-recommending. I give it five stars without any reservations whatsoever, as have a few dozen other reviewers. Some see the book as something that teaches men how to take advantage of women and form a string of meaningless short-term relationships. This is a joke. I believe strongly that a man who is single should thoroughly enjoy dating until he finds a mate who is on the same page as he is. Sexuality is an important part of this process. This is a book that cherishes sexuality and nurtures an important part of a man's life: being single. If one has trouble enjoying the single life, there stands a possibility that one's ensuing relationships will suffer as a result. This book is about creating romance and being available to women. There are countless numbers of single women who appreciate men who say hello to them, and there are some who don't. The book offers a number of practical suggestions for greeting and dating the winners and steering clear of the losers. It's blunt, simple, and often quite funny.

I strongly recommend another book to go along with this one: Iron John by Robert Bly. I recommend Iron John because it is a book about men and for men. It uses lots of folklore and poetry and makes strong statements about confidence and championing one's own life. It is one of the key books that began the men's movement in American society. And it is further confirmation of the fact that being a man is truly a great thing.

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31 of 33 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Useful and easy to apply, April 18, 2000
By A Customer
At 28 years old and never married it is time for a change. I decided last year that I want to be married before I turn 30 (in a year and half). I am an average looking guy living in New York and have worked on Wall Street for four years, doing alright. I am different than most of the guys posting on here, I am looking to get married. I want the long term commitment, not just getting my rocks off.

I've dated, used personals ads, joined dating services, etc., none of that stuff worked for me. I've read books by other authors and people like Tony Robbins, John Gray and others, and that stuff was useful, but it didn't get me a woman. But when I read How to Succeed With Women it was a turning point for me. Now, I was really ready for it; like the old expression the teacher comes when the student is ready. I was prepared and ready to go; ready for a Yoda to enter my life.

Anyway, I have used this book for six months of hard core flirting and dating and searching for the right women. I have used the Louis and Copeland "method" every step along the way. I have dated well over 25 women in my search for a potential mate and now I think I've found her. Now, I don't want to make this search look easy or infer that this book is the bible, because its not. But what was useful was the plan that the authors set forth. What was useful were the stages of relationships and how they develop. It was useful to learn how to keep a long term relationship last and keep it passionate over time. The authors could have written a bit more on this topic in my opinion. But what they did explain and expond upon was really useful.

So, I've learned a tremendous amount from this book that's been applicable in all areas of my life. I am happier since working with their program and have been successful with women more than ever before. Hopefully now I have found someone to settle down with and the search will be over.

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74 of 85 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Good - but not for me (a note to disappointed readers), January 19, 2001
By A Customer
I think the book can be very good for many people (as other reviews indicate). However, I think the audience for the book isn't 'anyone with male genitals'.

Imagine the CEO of a near-bankruptcy company taking a course on how to increase profits from 50 cents per share to 52. That sums up the experience for me. If your goal is to get a better margin - i.e. get more and better-looking women with minimal effort, I can certainly imagine this book may be of value to you. Buy this book if you want to better your batting average (I may sound critical because I'm jealous, that's all).

The book offers lots of tips (some trivial, some insightful) on how to go about dating a woman so that the romance happens more often and faster. It offers some useful tips on communicating with women in general. It also provides some nice ideas for giving women romantic gifts. And last on the good parts - it's filled with good advice on how to handle problems that arise in your interactions and relationships with women.

So how is it that I didn't find the book useful? Well, the underlying assumption in this book is that your problem is skill, and that all you need is some coaching and practice (like my basketball coach used to say). It advocates the truism that the more women you date, the more women you'll get (like a 3rd grade math book would say). It encourages you to always look your best and be at your best (like everybody says). It suggests that you build up your confidence to get more women (like the Southpark movie said). It suggests that you don't be afraid of rejection and that you get your validation from your life rather than from women (like a really bad therapist would say) . All in all it encourages you to take it easy (like the most annoying of people say). Well, this is all absolutely terrific advice that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

Despite the criticism, I am glad that I bought the book for two reasons: The first - it made me focus on my real problems: my self-esteem and a mild social anxiety disorder. You see, my strongest disagreement with this book is in describing lack of confidence as a stumbling block on your way to a plentiful sex-life. If you lack in confidence, then THIS is your problem, and my advice to you is to try and fix IT. As someone who's raised his self-esteem and self-confidence significantly, I can tell you that even if there were no women on this planet, it would still be worth it. I've only started working on my social anxiety but I'm CONFIDENT that I can fix it too.

The second reason - I truly believe and hope that soon I'll consider my batting average a real problem in my life, and then I'll find use for this book. Until then it rests on my shelf.

I'm writing this review based on an educated guess that I cannot really base that most people considering buying this book have some problem or another that probably has nothing to do with women. Maybe it's self-esteem, maybe it's social-phobia or maybe it's something else entirely. Different people - different problems. My point is that you better direct your efforts at finding out what your problem is before buying this book, and try to fix it. If your problem isn't dating skills, buying this book will most likely increase your frustration and disappoint you. When you're ready for it, if you still feel like you need it, go ahead and buy it.

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18 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A Must Read For "Losers" and "Nice Guys", August 23, 2002
By A Customer
This book changed my life. I wish I had read it when I was 14...it would have saved me 23 years of miserable failure after failure in my pursuit for romance. Within 24 hours of reading this book, I had one good-looking girl's phone number and I steered another hot woman's budding "friendship" into a budding romance. This book answers the question nice guys like me always wondered about: why don't we get laid more often? Why do all the girls we're interested in only want to be friends with us?

Great practical advice which, when applied, will not only score you girls, it will boost your self-confidence umpteen times as a result. Plus, the quest for chicks then becomes a worthwhile "hobby" which can divert you from your otherwise boring existence. I found myself thinking less and less about my problems as I became more involved with meeting more women. And, for those of you homebound couch potatoes, it will motivate you to get out more and to get yourself in shape.

A real eye-opener. Highly recommended.

(Oh, and make sure you have it well-hidden when your date comes over!)

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17 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Extremely Helpful, December 2, 1999
By A Customer
What I liked best about this book is how much hands-on and useful stuff it has in it. I was able to start using their program right away, and I liked the way their program moved step-by-step through meeting women, overcoming rejection, and more. I also liked the way they broke down seduction into steps, so now I can tell where I am in a seduction--am I at first meeting, flirting, getting the number, setting the date, on the priming date or the seduction date--very useful distinction, there--or so on. I also like the overall guidelines they give, and how much they show you the importance of following them. I can't believe, for instance, how often I've interacted with a woman without an outcome in mind--it's easy to say you should have an outcome in mind, but they actually show you how to do it, moment by moment, so you are never just "randomly chatting" with a woman--you are moving the seduction forward. I also never knew that a woman sleeps with you because of how you make her feel, rather than because of how you look or whatever. And I'd been making the mistake of trying to be friends first with women I met--I didn't realize that women are deciding in the first three minutes whether to make a guy a "lowly friend," as they call him in the book, or a lover. It's been so simple to turn that around, now that I know how! I wish I'd had this book years ago. Their simple two-step process for overcoming rejection fear is worth the price of the book all by itself! I'm just a couple of weeks into using the program and women are responding to me as a MAN now, and as a potential lover, rather than as some nice boy who they want to be "just friends" with. Thanks to the authors--this is the "real deal."
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20 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Sensational! Machiavellian at first sight, but first sight only, June 21, 2005
So far the reviews of this book had been interestingly dipolar, with the supporters praising the usefulness of it whilst the negatives reviews complaint bitterly about its 1) immorality (having sex as the primal objective) 2) lack of substance or sincerity for fostering a long term relationship 3) bias for a western society with a more liberal view on sex.

Though I do rate this a five star, I do wanna play neutral this time and let potential buyers decide whether it is "suitable" for them. Below please find some copy and paste for your reference. Hope you find them useful.

To see whether you are a potential benefactor of the book, please check whether you agree with The seven dating myths in Chapter 1. The more you agree with them, the more it can help:-
1.If you are nice enough and interesting enough, you will get a woman.
2.You are a nice guy, who only has nice thoughts and desires.
3.Just be yourself and women will desire you
4.Women knew what they want, and they will tell you
5.Be a woman's therapist, and you'll get sex
6.Being honest means telling her the worst things about yourself
7.Dating should be fair.

To see whether you wanna be modeled the way it wants you to be, please check whether you like "The habits of a highly successful seducer" preached in Chapter 2:-
1.Never grovels for sex
2.Knows it's his job to pursue sex; and that she has the final say
3.Doesn't get upset at her "no's"
4.Knows that rejection is the key to sexual prosperity
5.Sees dating as a number game
6.Always pursue more than one woman
7.Initiates everything with women
8.Is always prospecting
9.Always acts with an outcome in mind
10.Always make life work for him
11.Is never a prospect's therapist or friend
12.Is always willing to walk away from the seduction or from the woman
13.Makes it look like he's not working on the romance

Finally, please check whether you agree with it that success depends on whether you can abide by the rules of the "dating game" on Chapter 4:-
1.Nothing is personal
2.Be playful
3.Don't give up
4.Use probabilities

If you can accept the above points well, I assure you that you will be greatly rewarded for the time and money you spent on it. If not, please give it a pass rather than to complain here later.
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20 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars BEST BOOK I EVER READ IN MY LIFE! JUST GET IT!, December 12, 2004
I have a Degree in Literature and have also read most of the best motivational and success books out there, but THIS is the best book I have ever read. Every man should read it and read it in an uncynical and open way and really take in and try what it suggests.
Here's my testimonial. I had dated a lot of women and had had many relationships and things were getting worse as I got older and more involved, not better. Then I read this book. I studied the book very carefully reading and rereading until I got the ideas straight in my head.
When a woman came into my life, I practised what I'd studied, and we are now happily married and have just celebrated the first birthday of our gorgeous baby daughter. I have used the advice on maintaining a happy long term relationship and it has made for a happy marriage.
This book does not say a man should sleep around and try to be a stud or that he should settle down and get married, instead it points out the one truth no one else wants to admit, that men can only do what they want when they are ready for it and not before and it helps men to whatever they want with sound advice.
This book is an absolute bundle of dynamite and I wonder what my life would have been like if I'd read it years ago. Great fun, I'll bet, but it's going pretty damn good now, too. There's some odd comments here. Sarcastic remarks about men accepting they are losers or discovering they are suprior to women. Ignore them! They are nothing to do with this book. How to Succeed With Women is a positive and powerful guide to all men on how to live better lives, be better men for and to women, and for themselves, and it should be a mandatory text for every highschool boy on Earth. If more males read this book, there'd be a lot less rape and domestic violence and a lot less Divorces. And a lot more happiness!
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40 of 46 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Blame the gun for existing or the shooter for using it?, March 6, 2000
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Just because the book tells you how to seduce women just for sex doesn't mean you will. That is up to the individuals morals is it not? This book is just the tool, how you use the tool is up to you.

I read every review posted and I must say to the women that posted: You'll never know that a man is using the tactics presented in this book, you will not want to know because basically if you like the guy, you will accept him, if you do not like him, you won't. If he makes you feel special and/or seems romantic that is a BIG plus, is it not? Guys call it tactics, women call it romance; it's a play on words to the same end. I personally feel this book ruins a woman's perception on romance and I tell my female friends not to read it.

Me for instance. I have been looking for `true love' for years now... and failing... After reading this book (quickly) I dated heavily (hint: learn to swing dance!) twice a week and had very positive results. Let me tell you this book demands you respect yourself first then look for women. It tells you to be the center of your universe and invite those women that wish entrance in. Make yourself a target and present yourself in the most appealing way possible to potential mates.

Using this book I now have a wonderful girl friend of 4 months who I totally love and respect and we have not had sex yet because she is not ready for it. However I did use this book TO THE LETTER and swept her off her feet and made her fall in love with who I am now...

And that's what it's all about.

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19 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Real Good advice, best of the genre that is out there, March 12, 2003
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Art Camus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews
This book is pretty solid overall. I really would recommend buying it. I'll do my best to sum up the strengths and weakeness...

The book does a good job of covering all the basics, especially what not to do. Don't become a friend or therapist and make sure your romantic interest is known from the beginning. Be assertive, not aggressive. There are chapters on how to dress, how your home/car should look and many other important details.

There are all kinds of insights about women that are amazing. Once you read them you'll recognize how true it is to your own experiences. I've seen some reasonable success with the techniques found in this book.

On the negative side, the book does spend a lot of time telling you what a great book it is and how much success you will have (self-admiration society)... also, some of the examples used are cliche and asinine... but if you can get over that there is plenty of great info in here. It's one of the best i have read in this genre. Most others have lots of fluff and useless garbage.

The book does better than most in that it is more than a good pep talk, which i find most books of this type are. It has actual examples and points out things you probably didn't realize about women. Here are some priceless examples:

--Many women won't call you back, ever (don't get offended)
--Many women will stand you up on the 1st date (this doesn't mean she's not interested)
--Be persistent but not a doormat
--Never solve a woman's problems (there is no such thing)
--It is important to be decisive and always have a PLANNED date
--Women enjoy being romanced without realizing they are being romanced. Once they are cognizant of this fact they are turned off.
--Pick-up lines are useless and lame, just be natural
--You don't need to be rich, but pay for dates
--In a relationship, the man will do 90% of the persual work and women do not ever appreciate it (but you must get over it)
--Dating is a numbers game (great hitters have the most strikeouts, so don't be dismayed)

Some of these are obvious and some aren't. Anyway, this book will steer you right. I'm interested in their new book, "how to talk to women", which i think should also be good.

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18 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A book for all the clever men in the world, June 17, 2005
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H. K. Wong (Toronto, Ontario Canada) - See all my reviews
I read this book in secret and in the dark. Why, because I was in an unsatisfying relationship. I had no sex for more than a year. However, I am a clever man. That is why I did what I did - read this book and then act upon it.

The result is success, unbelievable success. I will tell you what the book taught me and how I used this book to get what I want - a real satisfying sex life.

1) This book taught me success is a number game. It did take me six months to get a woman to bed. No, don't be discouraged since I was in a relationship, it took me longer. I had to do it in secret.

2) This book helps me deal with rejections. At one point I was very close to success. We kissed in my car and she seemed very interested. Then she called me and told me coldly that it wouldn't work out. I was devastated. But I went back to this book again and again to read the section on dealing with rejections. And I got better and moved on.

3) This book gave me total guidelines to formulate a perfect date. This world is not forgiving, nor do women. They mark you on every move and every conversation. If you don't know exactly what will happen next during the date then you fail. Women don't excuse you for anything that make them uncomfortable.

4) This book prepared me for every situation. I went to bed with some most high strong women alive. I sometimes mistakingly touched on topics that those women feel strongly about. This book taught me not to argue, taught me how to put down the fire quickly and taught me focus on my goals for the date.

5) This book helped me recognize my goals with women. For all the new age men, you might think that I am an absolute jerk. Yes, if I am a jerk then I am an honest jerk. I am absolutely honest to myself. I know my instinctive and inevitable goal to be with women is sex. Sex must be satisfying before I decide whether I want a relationship with her. I have tried to deny it such like another new age man. But this book set me straight.

For six months I doubted the authors, and doubted this book. However for the lack of other choice I stick to it, stick to the authors' methods. And today, I can tell you that they are real. I am very sure that they wrote this book with profound experience and knowledge.

For all the men in the world, if what I said above offended you, I apologize. You should not read this book. However, brothers, if you are suffering in the similar situation as I was - being denied for sex in a relationship or simply have no relationship and no sex at all, read this book.

To the two authors, I salute you (the same way you said you would salute me when I got through with my first seduction date). You two are the strongest men standing on the face of the earth. You gave me back my sanity and my dignity as a man.
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