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Clifford Orwin (Author)
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August 29, 1997 0691017263 978-0691017266

Thucydides has long been celebrated for the unflinching realism of his presentation of political life. And yet, as some scholars have asserted, his work also displays a profound humanity. In the first thorough exploration of the relation between these two traits, Clifford Orwin argues that Thucydides' humanity is not a reflection of the author's temperament but an aspect of his thought, above all of his articulation of the central problem of political life, the tension between right and compulsion.

This book provides the most complete treatment to date of Thucydides' handling of the problem of injustice, as well as the most extensive interpretations yet of the speeches in which it comes to light. Thucydides does not merely display the weakness of justice in the world, but joins his characters in exploring the implications of this weakness for our understanding of what justice is. Orwin pursues this question through Thucydides' work and relates it to the historian's other leading concerns, such as the contrast between the Athenian way and the Spartan way, the role of piety in political life, the interaction of foreign and domestic politics, and the role of statesmanship in a world dominated by frenzies of hope, fear, and indignation. Above all, Orwin demonstrates the richness, complexity, and daring of Thucydides' articulation of these issues.



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Orwin has given us an important, provocative, and ultimately unsettling new book on Thucydides. . . . [A] valuable piece of scholarship. It asks important questions, marshaling an impressive breadth and depth of learning. -- Geoff Bakewell, Bryn Mawr Classical Review

[Orwin] allows us to see Thucydides' entire work in a fresh light. No one who reads this carefully crafted, wittily written study will emerge with his or her vision unchanged. . . . Orwin is in full control of the secondary literature on Thucydides, his handling of the philological questions is magisterial, and if the passages that he discusses are familiar, his treatment of them is not. This may be the best book to appear on the subject thus far, and given the quality of the secondary literature produced in the last half-century, that is saying a lot. -- Paul A. Rahe, American Historical Review

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"One of the most instructive and persuasive studies of Thucydides I know. It ought to be of great interest to classicists, historians, philosophers, and anyone who seeks wisdom about politics."--Donald Kagan, Yale University


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  • Paperback: 249 pages
  • Publisher: Princeton University Press (August 29, 1997)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0691017263
  • ISBN-13: 978-0691017266
  • Product Dimensions: 9.1 x 6.1 x 0.6 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 12.8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,988,910 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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5.0 out of 5 stars Philosophical Ruminations on Thucydides, December 31, 2005
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This is the best book-length treatment of Thucydides available from a truly philosophic perspective. Orwin looks at Thucydides through the lens of political philosophy and the question of justice. He does not attempt to locate Thucydides in his "historical context" or interpret the father of political history in light of the modern prejudice that looks for an author's "ideology"; rather, Orwin seriously considers whether Thucydides has given a true account of that which he intended to describe, namely, the nature of the human possibilities of war as such, regardless of time or place. Distinguishing Orwin's interpretation from all others of which I am aware is a thought provoking analysis of the role piety played in the motives of the actors described by Thucydides. This is an uncommonly good work that serves as a catalyst for thoughtful reflection on the nature of humanity.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Below average book, May 31, 1999
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This book deals with one of the most philosophical observers on the human condition in the most boring and "scholarily" manner. Consider that Orwin has spent over 15 years writing this, it should read better than an average graduate student paper. Orwin's take, for example, on the Plague is formulac and vague. (how many times can Orwin use the word, "body" to explain this passage?) Much more could have been said on the plagues relationship to political ideas, for example. Overall, this work serves to illustrate that Orwin is better suited to write as a journalist and not someone concerned with ideas.
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