191 of 197 people found the following review helpful
on June 1, 2011
Had need of a new saw to replace an older one that was starting to give me trouble. besides that I have been wanting a second saw and this gave me a good excuse to get one. I typically cut 8 to 10 cord per year for the past 30 years and have had experience with several types and sizes. My favorite was the Husky 55 which I still have but needs some work. I checked out the reviews on the Husky 50 with the most being very good with a few bad reviews but then I saw the same with Stihl reviews so I came to the conclusion some people don't really know much about starting or using a chain saw. Anyhow Amazon had this one for a price that couldn't be beat so I thought I would take a chance on buying it online as opposed to a dealer. I wasn't disappointed. No problem with start-up. The first job I had was to clean up some storm damage. Had a large red oak uproot. At the stump it was about 29" diameter. This saw cut through that like a knife through butter. I cut up that tree in no time. The main reason I went with the smaller saw was lower weight. As one gets older that extra pound or so hanging out there can make a difference on the the back feels afterwards. I just like the way this saw feels in my hand and am impressed with its performance. This model isn't a professional model but for the work as a homeowner on over 5 acres of woodland this saw is perfect.
80 of 84 people found the following review helpful
on June 20, 2011
In my humble homeowner opinion, there are two good chain saws on the market today. Stihl and Husqvarna. The Husky 450 is an excellent medium size saw for the homeowner like me. I like the saw because it is easy to start, quiet and powerful. I would recommend it to anyone. The 18 inch bar works for the size tree I typically cut. I keep the chains sharp and have several on hand to change in the field. The bar tool comes with the saw for easy chain changeout. My two sons also use the saw and rate it as highly as I do!
92 of 103 people found the following review helpful
on December 19, 2010
If you don't know how to start a chainsaw than you should not be using one! Once the saw fires you turn the choke off and pull the start cord. If you keep trying to start it with the choke on it will flood the engine. Read the user's manual, it talks about it in the manual. I just purchased the 450 and it cuts like a dream and has the power to really do the trick. I like the fact that I can put a 20" bar on this saw and have the power to get the job done. I'm not having any issues getting the saw to run even in below freezing temps. Make sure you use winter grade bar oil if you cut in the winter. It's only been two days of solid cutting but this machine has out preformed my last saw. Hopefully with good maintenance habits I can keep this thing around for a long time. Oh yea...wear chaps and a helmet. I love that macho attitude with no protective gear. You'd be amazed at how fast you can bleed out when you hit an artery!
42 of 48 people found the following review helpful
on October 2, 2011
I live in the Maine Paperwoods. I have cut truckloads of pulpwood, have a sawmill and heat with wood. I have been using a chainsaw over forty years now. I have two Husky 350 saws (one just out of the box when my 25 yr old Jonesred's pull cord plastic spring holder broke with no new parts available). I always have a backup and one in the box new because I depend on them so much (that makes three saws). I was shopping for a replacement when I came across two poor reviews on the 450. I spent the day in the woods today bucking up firewood from trees that have dried over the summer. I have a friend with a Husky 450 (it is almost identical in size and power as my two 350s which have recently been discontinued). I tried to count how many seconds it took to cut through a 3 inch maple or white birch limb. It turns out it is quicker than I can say "Jack Robinson". If I were not carful it would cut through the limb and then through my leg quicker than I could say "Boo". If the person gets his saw figured out if he is not careful folks might call him "Stumpy". This saw cuts through softwood limbs like through a roll of toilet paper and doesn't even slow down. A 12 inch maple takes ten seconds. This is a semi-professional (if not professional) saw. It is easy to repair with affordable parts [...] and can be fixed on a stump most of the time. Jonesred is a good saw, but parts availability can be a serious issue. Stihl is highly regarded by some (arborists), but they can only be bought through local dealers and parts are tightly controlled and handled by the same. Bar nuts can be as much as $3.50 each or more! The 350 came with open drivers on the centrifugal clutch which drives the chain. When cutting brush and small limbs sometimes the chain will jump off; the open driver tears up the chain which in turn tears up the bar in short order (it took me a while to figure out this problem with the 350). Bailey's Online has a new clutch drum and a removable internal driver which works perfectly through untold mountains of wood and brush. If the 450 comes with an open driver I will change it before I use it. I get almost all my sawing supplies from Bailey's.
I would advise using freshly mixed fuel in the tank, and oil. Give the pull cord a couple yanks with the choke on, and then yank again. If this fellow follows these directions there should be a terrible roaring sound (has to be endured for proper operation). If it still does not cut the only other possibility is the chain is on backwards! I did that once on the coast of Maine. The old fellow I was cutting with still teases me about how badly my saw cut after the extensive rebuild I had completed (I was so happy my saw was running so well it was not immediately obvious why it only scratched the firewood).
If he gets it running correctly, please wear a saw hat (helmet with brush shield and ear protectors), saw pants or chaps and be exceedingly careful. I run skidders, tractors, dozers, excavators, dump trucks, loaders and many other dangerous machines; but, this chainsaw takes the cake when it comes to dangerous. Do not cut over your head; keep your feet and legs far away from the running chain. I am afraid a boy has bought a man's tool (but then I was a boy once, everyone starts somewhere).
I will buy this saw and give it 5 stars based on the 350s and the hands on use of a 450.
40 of 46 people found the following review helpful
on May 9, 2011
This is my first chainsaw. I only wanted to buy a chainsaw once, so I did some research online and in the ACE store. I have a healthy fear of chainsaws and read the manual completely through as well as watched several safety videos on YouTube (I highly recommend that). This saw starts super easy if you READ the manual. This saw runs great, cuts like a knife through butter (70' trees) and is easy to acclimate to. I got lucky with an in-store grand opening sale and got the saw, case and extra chain for the price of just the saw. I would recommend this saw to my friends. In fact one of my friends has a Homelite chainsaw and Raved at how fast my saw rips through wood and works much better than his. I also recommend the Husqvarna 2 cycle mixing oil with Sta-bil. Stored my saw since the Fall and it started right away in the Spring. I did have a problem with the chain that came with it, but the store just gave me a new one and I was on my way.
Very happy with the saw.
38 of 45 people found the following review helpful
on November 24, 2008
I LOVE this chainsaw. It has an IMMENSE amount of power for such a seemingly small tool, it starts without trouble, is easy to adjust (once you can decipher the instructions), and can take down trees like they were small twigs. It even comes with instructions on how to properly limb a tree, and how to take down the tree itself. Well worth the money. I used it for close to three hours without shutting it off, and it did not overheat or lose power, and shamed the electric chainsaw we were using concurrently. LOVE LOVE LOVE this!!
40 of 48 people found the following review helpful
on May 26, 2012
I have extensive experience with using chainsaws. Out of the box, the Husqvarna 450 did not perform. It immediately bogged down while cutting green, 10-inch diameter logs and died when not on the throttle. It quickly became obvious that it was running much too lean and that the carb needed adjustment. OK no problem, except that it requires a special tool (not included) and/or a trip to an authorized service dealer. As others have noted, the instructions are also very poor.
A real disappointment, as it is supposed to be adjusted from the factory. I bought it online specifically because locating/visiting a dealer in the area, most of which are open only M-F, is a real pain for me.
15 of 17 people found the following review helpful
on May 9, 2013
I did quite a lot of research before buying a chainsaw, and perhaps my mistake here was in reading the content of the reviews and not the context of the reviewers. On an item like this, it would be good to know the level of expectations that the buyer has because a great saw to a new cutter is potentially only OK for a seasoned cutter.
Based on the reviews, I stayed away from the Rancher series because people were only reviewing it as a good entry level saw. I am guessing that the reviewers were seasoned at wood cutting and viewed that series from that standpoint. This 450 series might have been reviewed by a slightly different group because I came away with the impression that this saw was a better quality and stronger overall model than the Rancher.
I found that this particular model had so many engine, bar and chain performance issues, I only had one successful cutting day with this saw. The idle was so low that in-between cuts (while moving 2 feet from the last cut to the next cut), it would stall and not start unless the priming sequence was done over again. Occasionally this chainsaw idle would "catch" and rev up so high that I thought it was possessed. Once the idle was able to be controlled back down to normal, it would once again stall and not start for 10 minutes. The bar only has 1 nut for adjusting the chain and I frequently found that it would move (sometimes it would tighten, and sometimes it would loosen) beyond a normal expected tolerance once the saw was started.
The chain itself dulled within a few hours and I had it sharpened twice by a service. I had to query other cutters asking them "how often do you sharpen your chain? Much less frequently than I had to and they cut much more than I was asking this saw to do. With the infrequent cutting that I was doing, it made no sense, but the chain just wouldn't stay sharp.
I cut with my seasoned neighbor (He has the same brand, but the XP model) and we both placed our saws side-by-side while moving some logs and his saw would sit nicely idling, while mine would sputter and stall. I had professional service techs change the idle (the last one was for free because he felt badly that he couldn't resolve my issues). Still never resolved it. My woodcutting neighbor laughed at me a number of times telling me that my issue was simply "operator error". This enraged me, so I asked him to switch saws with me for 5 minutes. In 30 seconds he stopped the saw and said "Wow, that is just awful, I would never cut with this." He has since taken it upon himself to try to fix all the issues that I have had with it. Sadly, I bought the saw but didn't begin using it for a year, so I lost all ability to have it warranty serviced or replaced (my error, I suppose).
In short, I got a dud that won't stay turned on, doesn't cut very well, doesn't stay sharp and is a big disappointment.
UPDATE: Sept 18, 2013: My neighbor took it upon himself to find out what is going on with the chainsaw. He brought it to a service center that he trusts and they said that these saws need to be taken apart in order to adjust / fix them properly. Since this is still under warranty, he performed the needed services without charge and got it working nicely. The idle is now fixed, the runaway revving is now also not happening (that was so unsafe before) and I am just waiting to replace the original chain (which still is inferior). I bumped my rating from a 1 star up to 3 stars. I can't go higher in good faith because this saw needed a major tune-up out-of-he box before it even began working properly. Although I appreciate having good technicians who are authorized and skilled in order to perform this adjustment, one should not have to rely on this when getting a brand new product.
15 of 17 people found the following review helpful
on November 10, 2012
(I anticipate some discontented readers due to fervor over specific brands, but hopefully even they find useful information.)
My purchases as a habit often follow research that goes well beyond Amazon and customer reviews. Finding a quality chainsaw ranked among the toughest research to accomplish. "Expert" and consumer reviews didn't lead directly to a purchase decision. The problem is how much to spend on a usually annual use item. 3.5 acres is too small for professional equipment, and downed trees that absolutely must be removed are rare. That leaves downed trees and limbs for home heat augment firewood. The second problem is a large amount of strongly conflicting views and dissatisfied purchasers (consumers).
The contradictions appear to be happening because chainsaws are complex highly dangerous tools placed in the hands of amateurs like me (homeowners); average of 40,000 reported injuries including deaths occur annually in the US, which doesn't account for local doctor visits, etc; the most dangerous hand tool sold not requiring a license, training or certification. Stihl vs. Husqvarna: both companies apparently make quality products. Poulan and Husqvarna (see Wikipedia): Husqvarna owns Poulan and many other brands as well (world's largest producer of outdoor power products including chainsaws, trimmers, lawn mowers and garden tractors). Local shop vs. Amazon: unfortunately many of us are pressed to squeeze every dollar we can out of purchases and local stores are forced to find ways to compete with warehouses (online sales / big chain stores).
Results: I went local this time (a one store outfit) because they do contract repair work for the local big chain stores such as Lowes and Home Depot. They're on an out of the way insignificant short back road so business is driven by quality work and sales of quality equipment. At a competitive price to an e-series Husqvarna 450 (Husqvarna 450 is similar to the e-series), I purchased a Husqvarna 455 Rancher; more saw than will ever be needed (2012 - highly recommended by experts and local shop head service mechanic; talked me up from the 450E and that's not easy to do with a guy that's mechanically savvy). The 450 or alternatively the 450E had originally been chosen at the upper limit of a self imposed purchasing budget.
It's important to focus on locally purchased. These tools can be difficult to have operating properly because they are complex. They need to be adjusted and maintained properly to function well. Paying more in this case for a high quality tool, even one more than is called for in your circumstances, might be the best choice. Husqvarna has the edge this time (sorry Stihl fans and those disgruntled about a Husqvarna purchase). (Carpal tunnel syndrome extended use vibration warning) Husqvarna`s vibration dampening system is patented and I'm told significantly the most effective. Their engine air intake design makes other designs obsolete by removing so much sawdust before air heads for the air filter, it may not void the need for a filter, but it is particularly effective. (Watch the non-manufacturer's YouTube video of Stihl and Husqvarna having piles of chainsaw sawdust tossed at both saws' intakes [saws at full throttle] and the result when opening these saws to expose the air filters. One filter is packed with sawdust, the other looks like an unused saw.)
As to the complaints and disgruntled consumer reviews: these are complex, dangerous tools that need to be set up and serviced by people who know them to avoid common misunderstandings and expectations. Consumer training is highly useful. Reading the instruction booklet is not enough. It's very easy (and common) to get some basics wrong that cause virtually immediate significant problems (high quality tools help, but don't eliminate). Most sales people are clueless to help you not repeat the same mistake that caused you to return a new saw for a replacement. Warrantees etc.: if you haven't gotten the point yet, here it is. If in any way possible, for this particular equipment, buy locally from a knowledgeable equipment REPAIR shop (store that actually does the work; find them via the manufacture's website). Let them deal with any warrantee issues at their reputation. Let them satisfy resolving your issues. I would have purchased via Amazon, but every warning sign pointed toward purchasing this specific equipment locally. With some bargaining the shop did well price wise. (Get some training: at least manufacturer's video advice on YouTube; like safety, how & when to adjust chain tension and how to cut wood the right way.)
Experts Recommended (significant more money): hard hat with hearing protection, safety glasses, cut resistant gloves, protective leg chaps for chainsaws, and "above the ankle" leather boots with steel toes (none of which can fully prevent injury, just hopefully give you a chance during a mishap).
15 of 17 people found the following review helpful
on February 9, 2011
I have had this saw since Dec 24, 2010. I have cut 5 trailer loads of firewood so far. I did have the chain jump off the bar the last time I used it but it was because I had not yet adjusted the chain. I have not had a minutes trouble with this saw. The very first time I tried to start it, I pulled on the rope 6 times. Since then, it starts on the first or second pull everytime. I would definately buy again.