Love the album, love the artwork, hate the flimsy cardboard quasi-digipack. The back page of the booklet is glued permanently to the inside of the cardboard "case" and the CDs are each in individual slipcases that fall right out of the opening. Kind of hard to describe, but I was extremely disappointed. Roadrunner really skimped on the materials. The factory shrinkwrapping alone crushed it, so that it arrived looking very wilted. If the 1-CD edition is in a jewel case, I might buy it and get a special insert so I can put all 3 CDs in it. I just don't see this flimsy thing lasting very long.
I know what you mean. You would have to carefully insert each disc/box back in the case for the next use. I was hoping I would find that silver ticket that alone would make up for the packaging and the individual slipcases, but to no avail unfortunately. I think $100 would be a better price for the collector's edition. But as a DT fan, the extra $37 wasn't that big of a deal.
This is the kind of thing that I absolutely hate. I wish they'd stop packaging some cd's and dvd's like this. This isn't the first one Roadrunner has done it with: the special editions of Opeth's Watershed, and Cradle Of Filth's Godspeed On The Devil's Thunder. I kinda expected it with this one because their live cd's are packaged like this as well, same with the Greatest Hit collection.
I don't mind the slipcase with cardboard materials since this is better for the environment than plastic, but I really dislike that the booklet was glued to the back, forcing us to hold the entire package when reading it.
You know, in a way I like the packaging, but in a lot of ways, it's terrible. I liked how the cd's had their own "cases", but I hate how hard it is to get them in and out without destroying them. I also hated when I first opened it, and the cd's flew out the opening in the front because I was holding it sideways. The cd booklet angers me as well. Who would EVER glue the damn thing to the actual case? It is just stupid.... but on the brightside, the artwork inside the booklet is pretty cool.
Anyway, that was my thoughts on the packaging, although most of it has already been said. The cd's themselve are great, and the music on them is even better.
Worst cd packaging job I've ever seen. I can't believe that A) somebody thought this was a good idea, and B) it actually made it all the way through to production without ANYBODY saying "this is a really stupid idea". The individual 'mini album cover' cd slip cases (which don't like to give up their cds very easily) are constantly falling out of the wide-open-on-both-ends holder (which doesn't like to hold onto the cases at all). Also, is there a hidden code somewhere that explains the meaning of the matching picto-graphs on the cds and slip covers and why they correspond to cd numbers? (i.e. "bird"=1, "DT logo"=2, "moon"=3) Just curious.
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who felt this way about the packaging... No clue about any code for the images, though.
To sort of rub salt in the wound, I just got a couple of CDs on the Kscope label (Pineapple Thief and Lunatic Soul), both of which are in digipacks done right. The packaging is thick and sturdy, and the booklets can be held on their own.
The packaging definitely sucks. I would love to beat the crap out of the wackos who are pushing this "green" packaging. First, I wouldn't throw away my jewel cases anyway. Second, plastic can be recycled. Third, the plastic used for albums is a negligible amount compared to what we use on other things. Now, we have to live with these lame packages. Alot of times, I don't buy albums if they come in the lame cardboard packaging.
It just makes no sense...Why make something eco friendly when you throw it away, only problem is, they are making an eco product that no one throws away. You keep your CDs, don't toss them. One of the dumbest products ever as far as these new eco products is concerned...
You are right, I just do not understand this eco friendly CD case thing, give me back my jewel case. I have 9000 of them now that I don't intend on throwing in a landfill....
I've just received my CD from Amazon and I also really hate the packaging... The CDs fall off the package every time, since there is nothing to hold them inside... And the digipack material is too thin, it came from the mail all bent and smashed...
In this day and age of digital downloads it's a shame that they treated this product in this way. It is supposed to be a special edition nonetheless! I think I will formally complain about that with Roadrunner, DT and Amazon itself!
To add insult to injury, I was in Best Buy yesterday and saw the standard edition of the album. In a sturdy jewel case. My suspicions were confirmed. Those of us who shelled out the extra cash for the special edition are the ones who got the shaft. Very disappointing (again). I may follow de Souza's lead and contact Roadrunner and let them know how unimpressed I am.
Hey Brian, I e-mailed Roadrunner to express my disapointment in the packaging- nothing vulger or too harsh- and I never got a reply. I intend to take this up with Mike Portnoy when I see him tomorrow (He's at Daddy's Junky Music in Boston Sunday afternoon). The Instrumental CD is great, but I don't see myself ever listening to the covers CD again, except for the Iron Maiden tune. Dream Theater are still one of the best IMO. -Dave B.
Hey Guys, I didn't end up going to Daddy's Junky Music to meet Portnoy- I thought it was a drum clinic, but it was only a "meet & greet" with him. I didn't want to drive all the way to Boston (over an hour) just to "meet" him -I've met him before...super guy. I'm gonna try to contact him or post something on his website to see what he thinks about it. Maybe someone has already brought it up there (?). See ya, everybody.
I hope the right people are reading this thread, because the quality packaging is awful. Whoever is responsible for this garbage should be fired immediately. Yes, the discs do fly out, and yes the outer flimsy cardboard crushes if the A/C blows on it. No more of this nonsense, I say!
I put one staple on the outside edge (about in the middle) to seal that opening shut. I now can open up the cd case (if you can even call it that) and slide the 3 cds though the inside opening. The staple stops them from falling out the outer opening. This is kind of hard to explain but if you own it you probably know what I mean. Ridicules. Worst package ever.
Normally, I would not want to deface something like this, but in this case, I think I'll make an exception. I'm not going to be selling it, and if I were, well . . . it's not like it's in great shape anyway. It was already crushed when I got it. Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates the cardboard cases! It's been something I've been ranting to people about for a while. The frustrating thing is, they like to do it on the "special edition" of stuff - so you pay more for worse packaging, and if they're trying to be green, why only do cardboard for the lower-selling special edition? (The '"green packaging" concept doesn't float with me - I'd rather have my CD packaged in plastic, made from thousand-year dead dinosaur, than in cardboard, made from a freshly killed tree. And, if I wasn't planning on keeping the jewel case, I would just download the song. I still have the Iron Maiden CDs I bought 20 years ago in their jewel case. If they want to save plastic, stop selling me beverages in it, not CDs). There's a number of CDs I would've bought the special edition of, but didn't because of the cardboard case, and others where I really preferred the special edition so I put off buying the CD because of the stupid cardboard case. I, too, bought the special edition of Opeth's "watershed" and I notice I haven't listened to it much as it's a pain to get the CD out. I've actually scanned and printed some CD covers and repackaged them in my own jewel case. I may be cynical, but I almost wonder if the CD companies do the cardboard jewel case because they don't fit in the theft-preventing keepers at CD shops (I work at Borders, and I've noticed this). I figure if someone steals a CD from Borders because it won't fit in a keeper, Borders is out their money but the record company still gets their take from Borders. As for Dream Theater, I downloaded the cover songs (legally - I paid for them) and bought the jewel case 1-disc version, even though this cost more than I could've gotten the special ed. for.
I totally agree with this. I was expecting a digipak - I've had several of those, and they aren't that bad - but this one was way too thin and flimsy. I shouldn't have to be careful while handling a CD case to make sure that the CDs don't fall out. And I also agree that it's annoying that they glued the booklet to the case. What if someone wants to repackage it in a jewel case, with the original booklet? This is a digipak, a normally acceptable product, gone horribly wrong.