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If I Die I Die

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This is probably the best known Virgin Prunes album. It contains two of their most popular singles, Baby turns Blue and Pagan Love Song, both of which are Goth Club favorites even 20 some years after their release. Their sound is very ecclectic. In fact, there isn't one song that sounds like another on this album. You get some dissonant Post-Punk (what would be considered Deathrock by American standards), some spooky Bauhaus-ish Goth, some catchy Pop, and some Industrial flavored Noise-Art. With this in mind, it's only fitting that the Mute label (Home to Nick Cave, Einsturzende Neubauten, and Laibach) would go and reissue the entire catalog of one of the finest art-punk bands ever.

Yes, this is one of my 10 favorite albums of the 1980s. The album cover & quality of the pressing compelled me to give this a listen one day (back in the days when indie/import shops in the US had record players you could actually listen to the latest releases with). The really danceable (and what would become their best known tracks) "Baby Turns Blue" & "Caucasian Walk" made me buy it, however, I ended up usually listening to the whole thing from beginning to end & the other (more experimental) tracks really grew on me. Something about the artwork & packaging & the fact that it always threw people off (What the hell is that?!) made this a perennial favorite.

Listening to it now, the music isn't really all that different from what you would expect from an early 80s post punk/pre synthpop "UK" alt band (most of the band hails from Ireland, but like their friends U2, really took off because of the UK punk/new wave scene....well, ok, they didn't really take off like U2, but they did make their mark). In L.A. speak, the Virgin Punes could be described as The Lords of The New Church meets The Fall, or Bauhaus with The Doors' personality and Siouxsie & The Banshees' beat. This is the album that really propelled them into alternative band non-stardom. Except for their final album (Moon...), their other releases were much more experimental and covered a much wider range of style (and quality). I thought I read somewhere that Colin Newman of Wire produced one side of the LP & Dave Ball of Soft Cell & The Grid produced the other, but the liner notes give all the credit to Colin. Regardless, the album is very much a cohesive whole. The bass predominates even the slow tracks. Vocals are shared by Gavin Friday (who has gone onto a success career as a vocalist & writer for soundtracks like "The Boxer" "In The Name of The Father" & "In America") & Dave-Id. Lyrics are sometimes undecipherable because of (shrieking/distorte) vocalization, so it is nice that they are included on this release (for the first time?). This CD adds a few tracks, which were recorded at the same time & fit in quite well, as a bonus.

I'm not sure how this release compares to the orignial & rare New Rose and Mute issues from around 1989. I saw a copy once, but passed on it because it was $2 more than the other used CD's at the store (& thought it might go by unnoticed & eventually get reduced). Two days later I decided to buy it anyway, but when I went back, it was gone. For over 10 years now I have been kicking myself over not buying it, because in all my used music buying sprees (of which there have been many), I had never seen another copy (except on Ebay, and then for $100+).

As for the CD, it sounds very good, though it is mastered very loud. I'm not sure if it's my speakers, but on at least one of the tracks (Walls of Jericho?) I thought I noticed distortion in the treble, perhaps from the loudness, which I don't recall being on my LP. BTW, Colin Newman has remixed Baby Turns Blue, which at the moment only looks to be on the UK iTunes site & not the US one (grrr!). For more on The Virgin Prunes, I'd definitely recommend the official fan website, along with the one for Gavin Friday.

At long last this album gets re-issued and re-mastered on CD. Has any band of this stature missed having its back catalog plundered endlessly except for the Virgin Prunes? But what must not have been very easy on them financially has worked wonders for their artistic legacy. How's that? It's because by virtue of it having been so rare during the past nearly twenty years, the beautiful evil of the Virgins Prunes has not been diminished by familiarity like a great many of the bands from this era have been. This is an unbelievably powerful listening experience to have in 2004. A real revelation. Insane. Disturbing, yet always beautiful (in a very broad definition of the word, granted!). The best ballpark comparison to the Prunes sound and "feel" would have to be Bauhaus, although that's just getting you into the ballpark, so don't make too much of it: the Prunes exist in their very own, very singular continuum. Fans of early PiL, Throbbing Gristle, Birthday Party, etc, should go nuts over this. Produced by Wire's Colin Newman. It's tightly controlled chaos here and it really works for it. Rubbery, almost metronomic bass. Eerie percussion effects. Three wailing weirdo singers including a mentally handicapped young man. Bone crunching guitar riffs (The guitar player is the older brother of U2's Edge, btw) and trippy DARK subject matter. As dark and as apocalyptic as any band has ever been. A lush, dark, beautifully designed nightmare. A masterpiece of sorts.

I was so happy to see all of the V.P. albums being released at the same time that I was willing to give them all a 5 star, but the truth is this is their best album by far. If you are not familiar with this group but want to give them a shot buy this instead of the others. That way you will only be moderately disappointed from here!

Wow ... I can still feel the shaking and fear and awe and delight I felt after accidentally seeing my first Virgin Prunes show. I grew up in Dublin and had heard of Virgin Prunes because of the graffiti 'u2 can be a virgin prune' that was plastered all over the city at the time. The buzz about U2 had just started, and I was eager to see them. I went to one of their shows in the local church hall, only U2's manager wouldn't allow them play because they didn't have a good enough PA, so Virgin Prunes went on instead. Strongman Prune started the show off by playing one note every five seconds, being joined by a similar monotonous thump from the drummer. Suddenly there was this 'mentally handicapped' acting guy doing cart wheels in the audience and handing out chocolate. This I later discovered was Dave-iD, who wasn't acting at all! Next, a skinny mad Bowie-ish looking guy (Guggi) appeared out of nowhere dressed in what seemed like twenty or so regal fur lined capes, carrying an enormous book which he pushed onto a lectern. He had black circles around his eyes and white pancake makeup and started screeching an accusatory sermon at the audience. Visually, he was stunning. He was soon followed by a crazy looking black haired guy on all fours (Gavin Friday) with a black band of makeup across his eyes, who started to hiss at the audience. I was mesmerized, I wanted to run, but couldn't decide whether to run away or run closer to the stage. The rest of the show was equally fascinating. Their performance was perfectly executed - the audience just stood there shocked, but no one left the hall. It was the weirdest thing I had ever seen and left the show so proud they were an Irish band!

This album gets criticised for being 'more commercial' than their other offerings, but I would hardly call it commercial. Gavin and Guggi's voices are so gutteral and really shine. There are unique driving bass lines and drumming, with the guitar slightly buiried into the mix, pulling you closer in to the music. It is definitely not Goth - not depressing enough, but is a fascinating exploration of lunacy, sometimes funny, sometimes terifiying, an altogether enjoyable experience.

I also recommend Over The Rainbow, my favorite track being Down Memory Lane. For those who want to sample some of the craziness of VP, check out Decline and Fall on YouTube. You'll be glad you did!

If you like your post punk dark and experimental like me than this is for you. Although I must admit they get carried away with it sometimes. I would of loved to see them live in there prime. From what I understand the shows outshined the music. This explains a lot seems, like this was meant to hear with visuaIs. Also check out thier Sons Find Devils CD where some of the songs are delivered in a more guitar based fashion. They sound better in my opinion.

Lets get one thing straight about this band. Despite the lazy pigeon-holing of people too slow to engage their brain much beyond the cover photo, this band is definitely NOT gothic. They are about as gothic as Alice Cooper. Or Throbbing Gristle. If you think those two are also gothic then I can't help you much from now on I'm afraid. The Virgin Prunes relied more on a Dadaist stage show and an Eno-on-angel dust approach to soundscapes than the old black velvet and dry ice routines of most gothic horror shows. Say Dada and Eno to your average goth and they'll look blankly back at you while checking to make sure their hair is straight and their rings are still on. I guess this is the album which landed the madcap Irishmen with that extremely ugly categorisation given the cover art, but it's music that's important here so lets try and get beyond appearances for a change shall we. After all it was the 80's. Even heavy metallers wore make-up in the 80's.

This CD features the original 1983 album expanded with single only tracks and a couple of out-take type rarities. It followed on from two extremely uncommercial recordings and was probably the bands way of trying to get some pennies in the coffers after years of starving. "Baby turns blue" and "Pagan love song" are the two singles in question. They sound a little too much like attempts at a commercial sounding single and as such are the least rewarding tracks. They are also the songs that led to more unfortunate gothic accusations. For the rest they try and attain a balance between studio atmospherics and tight song structures and for the most part they succeed. The opening 4 tracks are fantastically Celtic sounding, and convey a unique atmosphere unmatched by anyone else treading the boards at the time (or since for that matter). Among the other tracks are some other less interesting atmospheric instumentals which add slightly to the rest but which mainly serve as relief from the heavier outings such as "Caucasian Walk" and "Theme for thought". The real oddity on here is the Springsteen parody "Ballad of the man" which is quite funny and something the likes of The Mission would be way too cool to attempt.

On the whole this is the least interesting Prunes outing, mainly because they are using recognisable instruments in conventional ways. They are at their best when using unrecognisable instruments in unconventional ways as on "Hersie" and "A New form of beauty". Get those and if you're still interested, get this.