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15 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Good reference tool - not a good tutorial book
I learned long ago that the Visual Quick Start books are better as a reference tool than as a tutorial bookl; this book is no different. At 488 pages, it is about twice as thick as the usual Quick Start Guides. This should also give you an indication to the large amount of content the authors put into it.

I bought the book to use as a study aide for taking my ACE Exam...

Published on April 9, 2001 by S. Nare

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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Great for Novices who want to stay that way
Elaine and Peter are career authors. They obviously don't use the products they write about, and this book is no exception. It is lacking in common sense, good advice, and practical tips and techniques. This series tends to be quite good overall, but the authors' obvious unfamiliarity with the product they are writing about shines through vividly.

If that weren't bad...

Published on December 21, 2000


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15 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Good reference tool - not a good tutorial book, April 9, 2001
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S. Nare "snare" (Lebanon, OH United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
I learned long ago that the Visual Quick Start books are better as a reference tool than as a tutorial bookl; this book is no different. At 488 pages, it is about twice as thick as the usual Quick Start Guides. This should also give you an indication to the large amount of content the authors put into it.

I bought the book to use as a study aide for taking my ACE Exam in Illustrator. It was not very helpful for this. I wasn't totally disappointed however. It is a great book for when I am actively using Illustrator and need to remember some activity that I don't do too often and need to look it up. Think of it like a giant list of organized directions for doing things in Illustrator. As this kind of reference, it is quite useful.

In order of (chapter)number, the authors cover: Interface (1), How Illustrator Works (2), Startup (3), Views (4), Objects Basics (5), Select/Copy (6), Transform (7), Reshape (8), Fill & Stroke (9), Pen (10), Layers (11), Create Type (12), Style & Edit Type (13), Acquire (14), Brushes (15), Combine Paths (16), Gradients (17), Appearances (18), Masks/Transparency (19), Filters (20), Precision Tools (21), Actions (22), Preferences (23), Output/Export (24), Separations (25) and Web (26).

If you are a beginner, buy something else like Deke McClelland's Real World Illustrator 9. Once you get grounded, buy this as a reference tool when you are trying to remember how to do a particular task. If you are studying for your ACE Exam, buy both Deke's book and the Adobe Classroom in a Book for Illustrator 9.

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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Great for Novices who want to stay that way, December 21, 2000
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This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
Elaine and Peter are career authors. They obviously don't use the products they write about, and this book is no exception. It is lacking in common sense, good advice, and practical tips and techniques. This series tends to be quite good overall, but the authors' obvious unfamiliarity with the product they are writing about shines through vividly.

If that weren't bad enough, many of the examples are poor quality and look bitmapped! In a vector book! Shame!

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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars very helpful manual, February 19, 2001
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Bobbi Ragon (Washington, DC United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
I like this book - it's very comprehensive and helpful. In contrast, books such as the Illustrator 9 Bible couldn't hold my interest: too much time was spent in the first four chapters describing processes, rather than *showing* them with more practice examples and screen shots (as this book does).

In the Illustrator 9 Bible, there was some rather annoying fluff such as the jokey conversation transcripts - and one of the earliest chapters dealt with creating *graphs*, of all things, in Illustrator. By the time I had gotten to Chapter 4 I knew I needed a Visual Quickstart (VQS) Guide.

In short, I don't know why this VQS book is getting such a bad rap. I'm surprised that other reviewers rated this book so poorly. I've gotten through 17 chapters already during the past few weekends and am proud of my level of progress. With this book, I feel I am learning Illustrator well enough to pass the Brainbench certification exam (when the exam for version 9 becomes available).

I didn't encounter any mistakes (except for a minor one) while following practice examples. Occasionally, one minor thing or another wouldn't work, but then I was able to either figure out a way around it or overlook that. But that could've been because I missed something while reading.

I would highly recommend this book to anyone wanting to learn Illustrator 9 thoroughly.

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars This Book Suits My Style, June 21, 2001
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WRC (Reston, VA United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
I went to "that big book store" and sat down with a small pile of Illusrator books. This was the only one that seemed to fit my style which is that I want to learn tasks only as I need them. I do NOT want to read through any long explanations or background. If right now I want to know how to put type in a circle then that's ALL I want to know and I want to find it very fast. This book does that job for me. I can see how this book may not be in-depth enough for some full time designers but I love it for me, a beginner. I've bought other books in their series since this one and I love them all.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars For those with a need to learn Illustrator 9 fast, May 19, 2001
This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
In a new edition featuring an expanded color section, Elaine Weinmann and Peter Lourekas' Illustrator 9 For Windows & Macintosh offers the novice user with an easy, visually oriented approach through the software properties and applications. A straight forward, concise, "reader friendly" text is so well organized that the entire 488-page volume works easily as a practical reference book. Illustrator 9 For Windows & Macintosh is especially recommended for those with a need to learn Illustrator 9 fast, whether working on a Windows or a Macintosh platform.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Despite this book, I learned how to use Illustrator, February 8, 2001
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This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
Since this was the only book I had found that was small enough and compact to read while travelling, I figured I'd buy it. After reading and studying all the chapters in the first part, I discovered that I didn't know much more than when I started. How utterly disappointing.

I evenutally learned to use and love Illustrator, but not because of the book, but because of using Illustrator for 5 months at work! To say it quite simply, the book is TERRIBLE for the actual content and examples. Furthermore, the majority of steps towards the end of the book not only had some errors in the processes but they didn't even come close to the actual way Illustrator works. Also, the book seems to have been made directly from the previous version (I saw a copy at the bookstar nearby)! For the price you pay for this book, it's not worth it, but then again, you get Illustrator online help for free!

I bought this book with the intention of getting a feel for what Illustrator was about, but I was wrong.

All-in-all, I don't recommend this book if you plan on using Illustrator for anything more than text on a path.

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1.0 out of 5 stars Confusing and often wrong, December 21, 2000
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This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
After picking up this book and trying to follow along, I found that there were several innaccuracies in the steps. Add to that the confusing layout and miniscule screen shots, and using this book became an exercise in frustration. I've just gotten a copy of the Illustrator Bible, which appears to be much better organized, readable, and useful.
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6 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Not really a beginer book, January 2, 2001
By A Customer
This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
I would like to know if there are any books that beside this book so that I can learn Illustrator. In particular, Using the Pen tool or other features. That's right, so I can learn and understand more about the topic and get well prepared for a career in design and graphics.

I am wondering if this is possible, I'd like to learn about Illustrator ASAP.

Thank you very much for your time and help.

If you are reviewing other Illustrator books, please inform if they will be able to help. So far, this one and two others have been of no good to me.

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2 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Quickstart? Maybe a different title is more appropriate, February 15, 2001
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This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
This book is quite long, has lackluster coverage of major 9.0 features, and has several errors. I found myself trying to use it as a reference guide becuase of the size, but digging around for any useful information was almost always futile. Other books in this series seem to be tighter and more coherent than this overlong book.
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0 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Waste of money, April 9, 2002
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This review is from: Illustrator 9 for Windows & Macintosh (Paperback)
This book is the worst tutorial Illustrator book out there. It doesn't explain how or why. Not a good book for those new to Illustrator like I am.
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