Incoherence [Import]

Peter Hammill | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (July 11, 2005)
• Original Release Date: 2005
• Number of Discs: 1
• Format: Import
• Label: FIE
• ASIN: B0001P4VWM
• Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #306,718 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

1. When Language Corrodes

2. Babel

3. Logodaedalus

4. Like Perfume

5. Your Word

6. Always And A Day

7. Cretans Always Lie

8. All Greek

9. Call That A Conversation?

10. The Meanings Changed

11. Converse

12. Gone Ahead

13. Power Of Speech

14. If Language Explodes

Customer Reviews

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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars WORDS UPON WORDS..., April 26, 2004

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Larry L. Looney (Austin, Texas USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Incoherence (Audio CD)

Thirty-five years and dozens of recordings down the pike, Peter Hammill has finally devoted an entire album of material (one 41-minute work in 14 sections) to the subject that is at the very heart of his art: language. His lyrics - even in the early days, on the first albums by Van der Graaf Generator - have always been insightful, literate and thought-provoking, ever the beating heart of his music. This album explores multiple aspects of the word - its meaning, power, implications, magic and more. The lyrics are wonderfully typical of Hammill in that they are the ultimate in `self'-revealing - and at the same time they act as a literary and psychological mirror in which we can (if we have the will and the courage) view ourselves, hopefully bringing us closer to truly recognizing and knowing the truths that reside within us.

Musically, this recording is more akin to some of Peter's earlier, more densely arranged works (bits of SILENT CORNER AND THE EMPTY STAGE and IN CAMERA come to mind - though he's certainly not repeating himself) and less like the acoustic guitar-centered CLUTCH from late 2002. He's aided and abetted here by long-term collaborator David Jackson (another Van der Graaf alumnus) on saxes and flutes, as well as Stuart Gordon (who has played on several of Peter's recordings as well) on violin. All of the other instruments (guitars and keyboards) as well as all of the vocals, are by Peter.

In the brief notes on the CD insert, Hammill states that `...the substance of the text here is of the impossibilities of language'. I'm interpreting this as referring to the `impossibilities' encountered by we humans in recognizing the implications of the words with which we attempt to communicate our feelings, thoughts, hopes, fears, promises, blessings and curses to each other and to ourselves - and how vital this `impossible' tool/concept is to our survival, both in a physical as well as a philosophical sense. The entire lyric for the opening section, `When language corrodes': `And when language corrodes all our faculties falter and blur. Nobody knows how our tongues got so swollen and furred. What truths are there left to be told when we're all lost for words?' If we cannot control or grasp the significance and power and implications of our speech, what hope can we hold of communicating and surviving? Even what we DON'T say colours the meaning - in `Babel', he writes `...Words upon words, fiction folly and fable, each pregnant pause a dead giveaway...ploughing on undeterred as the sell-bys expire on our labels, though at length we have little or nothing to say...' Before we know it, the time that is given to us for interrelating and interacting has passed - the window is closed.

Some of the lyrical sections are extremely brief - and so much is said in so few words. `Like perfume': `Once spoken, words perfume the air like woodsmoke, like a breath of self that's no longer there. Such confidence, such half-baked truth...the sound of distant voices mocks the hubris of youth.' A phrase Hammill used to describe the musical aspect of CLUTCH (the album featured no keyboards, bass, electric guitars or drums) is appropriate to apply to the lyrical structure of INCOHERENCE: `The palette is restricted but the canvas is broad'.

Like all of his works, INCOHERENCE is an album that unfolds slowly, more fully, with repeated attentive listening - and given the subject addressed here, perhaps even more so than any other. I've been listening to - and delighting in - Peter's music since the early 1970s, and I continue to be rewarded with each new release. His lyrics and music never fail to open my mind and ears and soul a little further - and he remains one of the most dedicated and uncompromising artists I've been blessed to hear. His work is always challenging and rewarding to the listener - and above all else, filled with integrity.

2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars GO ON, READ ME. I'M IN CAPITOLS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!, July 12, 2004

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Oymaprat (Nowhere In Particular) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Incoherence (Audio CD)

Ok, so it isn't going to win any rewards for being the best album of all time, but very few albums are. It is however very good, not as stunning as some of Peter Hammill's other material but none the less a good listen.
It starts of as though it's going to take on a journey through the problems of communication, language and how it lacks the detail to express emotion fully, and it does this 100%. When you sit down to listen to it you have no idea how deep it will go into this concept, and it goes deep. As the disc slowly scraped it's way to silence I began to take in the concept how poor the English language (as it is the only one I can fluently speek) is at expressing what people actually want to say. 'Love' does not describe the feeling of itself and nor does any other word such as 'adour.' But I am straying from the point, both the lyrics and the music convey and express Peter's point very well, as it becomes angry as he becomes angry with communicational problems and the like.

I myself am comparetively young to most fans of Peter, and the whole genre of music that he is in and this is the first of his solo albums I have bought so I am not one to compare, even though I already have, but I have many of the Van Der Graaf albums from the Godbluff era and this stands up well as an album from a solo artist and advise any Hammill or Van Der Graaf Generator fan to buy it as it is full of depth emotion and ultimately great music

3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Another Hammill gem. A 41 minute Trip., April 17, 2004

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Ignaciocue (Mexico) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Incoherence (Audio CD)

I like this record a lot because of its long, coherent, passionate structure. He names 14 songs, but it is a big, 41 minutes composition with no gaps between each song.
No drums. Fortunately hammill got rid of the very cold drummer Manny elias, and just invites Ex Van der graaf maestro David jackson on Saxes and Stuart Gordon on Violin. We VDGG fans miss drummer extraordinaire Guy Evans a lot. Nevertheless, the absence of drums does not affect this gem.

I have listened to it just 3 or 4 times yet, and i like it a lot. It is quite deep, alternating melodic, sad, aggresive, and cahotic passages.
As always, incredible voices all over the place. This is a genius singer composer.
Highly recommended for Hammill fans but maybe not for newcomers. By the way he had a heart attack a couple of hours after finishing this recording sessions. Long live Peter Hammill !