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18 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
"If you don't want to, we'll make you.",
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This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
The most obvious question posed by this book in 2003 is "Why would I want it? It's about an army that doesn't exist anymore."And indeed, much of "Inside the Soviet Army" is a discussion of military organization and is loaded with outdated facts, figures, and other bumf which are of no interest to anyone 12 years after the fall of Communism. My answer is simple. In addition to all of that junk, which is of little intrerest except to historians, Suvorov writes with wonderful black humor and irony about not only the mentality of the Soviet/Russian military (which is timeless) but also takes the reader through the daily life of the Soviet soldier. The last two chapters "The Soldier's Lot" and "The Officer's Path" are worth buying the book for alone. The cruelty, stupidity, waste, corruption, and cynicism of this extinct regime are both terrifying and awe-inspiring, and the lot of the Soviet private could scarcely have been worse if he had been in prison. Indeed, an American prison would be a better place than a Soviet army barracks. Starvation, humiliation, physical beatings, Draconian discipline, drunkenness and even mutiny were almost everyday features of life; soldiers routinely killed themselves, sank into stupors of alcoholism, or became vicious predators themselves, devoid of mercy or human feeling. And yet Suvorov wisely concludes that no other type of army was possible for the Soviet Union, or even desirable: one of the central ironies of history is that had Russia been a democracy in 1941, it certainly would have been crushed by the Germans. Only by the most ruthless use of millions of its own citizens in 'penal battalions' and human wave assaults were the Reds able to stem the German advance, not through strategy but simply by choking the Nazis with blood and eventually, washing them away with it. This lesson was not lost on the postwar Communist leadership, and it is a damn good job we never went to war with Soviet Russia. People who view tens of millions of military and civilian deaths as a necessary part of any wartime equation would not have been hesitant to let the nuclear missles fly. I also found his views on the true nature of Communism and Socialism to be original and fascinating. He dismisses the "Evil Empire" myth and explains why Communist countries, not excluding China, must always conquer their neighobors or die, and why no real, permenent peace is possible between free and repressive nations. In hindsight, his analysis was dead on: if you give oppressed people a choice between their current condition and something else, they will always choose something else. Therefore you must seal your borders with guns, walls, towers, mines, dogs, institute a terror, forbid foreign travel, disseminate lying anti-foreign propiganda, and work tirelessly to bring down any country that offers a better life. This last function was the purpose of the postwar Soviet army, and is also why Suvorov ended up defecting from it. Suvorov, when he doesn't get bogged down in boring technical detail, is a terrifically funny and cynical writer, a Russian patriot with a searing hatred of Communism. I strongly recommend this book to anyone looking for a non-Western view on war, strategy, and the human condition.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
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By P.K. Ryan "The Ryan Identity" (Albany, NY USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
This was certainly an interesting read. Suvorov, the Soviet defector, gives quite an extensive look at not only the now defunct Soviet Army, but also the entire Soviet system. Of course, being an army officer, the Soviet military is his area of expertise and the majority of the book's content reflects that, hence the title. I agree with the previous reviewer's that the chapters, `The Soldier's Lot' and `The Officer's Path' (whose content is self-explanatory) were the most interesting of all. Let's just say I don't envy any of the poor souls who had to go through Soviet military training, or for that matter, anyone who grew up in the Soviet Union. Nazi Germany had nothing on these guys in the cruelty department.
I also found interesting Suvorov's description of the Soviet Union's political structure, the "Bermuda Triangle" (The Army, The Party, & The KGB) as he calls it. He cites the well-known fact that a triangle is the strongest geometric shape known to man, and argues that this applies to politics as well. I kind of glossed over the middle of the book where he methodically describes each armed service (combat organization, strategy, equipment, etc.) in minute detail. Military historians will appreciate this, but I found it a bit tedious. I really didn't see where the author gives that many controversial opinions. Occasionally he'll agree or disagree with the logic or effectiveness of a certain Soviet policy, but other than that, I didn't find too much of what he had to say as particularly controversial. My only concern is the question of reliability. Is he telling the truth? Now I have no reason to believe that he's not, but let's be honest, it is perfectly possible that a book like this could be written for reasons other than it's stated purpose. Overall though, this was well worth the read and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to those interested in Soviet/Cold War history or military history in general. I'd like to close with a quote, which I found particularly interesting. I suppose some could find this controversial, I don't: "Hitler would not give his wholehearted support to...the leader of the Russian anti-Communist movement. With unbelievable shortsightedness, he embarked upon a bloodthirsty campaign of terror against the inhabitants or the territories occupied by his armies. Compared to the liberation and collectivization campaigns carried out by the Communists, the terror was relatively mild, but it deprived Hitler of any hope of winning the laurels of a champion of freedom.....If, if, if only someone had realized how the Russians loathe Communism. If only someone had tried to tap this reserve of hatred."
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Terrifying yet exciting,
By Skyline GTR (Sydney, NSW, Aus) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
If you thought that the western armies were the King of all armies then read this "inside the soviet army". Your mind would change....forever. Concerned about the peace of the world? Then read this book, it has all the terrifying facts about how the Soviet army operates in the heat of battle and how they organise their armies during peace. This book i guarantee, would change your mind about the Soviets. A great read!!
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Insight on a former adversary that may still be relevant today,
By Roger J. Buffington (Huntington Beach, CA United States) - See all my reviews (TOP 500 REVIEWER) (VINE VOICE) (REAL NAME)
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Paperback)
"Inside the Soviet Army" is essentially the insights of a former Soviet GRU (military intelligence) officer (and former tank commander) who defected to the West in the 1970s or thereabouts. It is an attempt by the author to tell the uninitiated what the basic nature and philosophy of the (former) Soviet Army was comprised of. As such, this is a fascinating look at the innards of an Army that is very different from the US or any Western army. When I was an Army officer I could not put this book down, and I must have re-read it at least a dozen times.
To me the most fascinating thing about this book, and indeed about the Soviet Army, was the fact that the Soviet Army is organized, as Tom Clancy once put it, along the lines of "organized chaos." Essentially, the senior enlisted men control the junior enlisted men, who they dominate and force to do all of the work. The officers put up with this (with the threat of mass punishment as their tool to get compliance out of the enlisted men) out of necessity. The hazing by the senior soldiers of the new soldiers is brutal, and is a recognized problem in Russian society to this day. (The "League of Russian Mothers" has emerged as a force in Russia to exert political pressure to reform this problem.) Sergeants? They have them, but most of the jobs done by professional NCOs in most Western armies are done either by officers or by the senior enlisted--the Soviet Army had no professional NCO corps. If I stray into the present tense it is because the present Russian Army, by all reports, is organized much the same as the former Soviet Army, although it is trying to reform from being a mass army of barely-trained conscripts into a more professional army featuring more highly-trained soldiers and officers. Another insight that Suvorov brings out is that Soviet Army officers were subject to many of the same bureacratic restrictions and hamperings as Western officers--training quotas without fuel to achieve them, interference from higher headquarters over discipline of soldiers, etc. The Soviet Army was (and the Russian Army still is) plagued by many of the same problems as its Western adversaries, and the Soviets were not ten feet tall. Some of Suvorov's conclusions are controversial, as other reviewers have noted, but in the main this book rings true, and seems to be a reasonable, if not totally objective, view of what the Soviet Army of the 1970s was like. Such insights were hard to come by then, and are now. That, combined with Suvorov's engaging writing style and obvious intelligence, makes this book merit each of its five stars.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
one of the scaryest books i have ever read,
By "soukie" (dayton, ohio United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
If you ever wanted know about the soviet military I recommend this book to anybody. It talks about the tactics & strategy and mind set of the soviet military and government.I think it is important for anyone to read because it should exactly how dangerous it the situation could have been.
5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Military manual for a force gone by,
By A Customer
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
It's inviting to ponder "Inside the Soviet Army" today as an artifact of neo-conservative conspiracy: breathlessly invoking the symmetrical waves of motor-rifle divisions and tank armies that would descend upon the West, Suvorov only occasionally halted himself long enough to admit that many of these innumerable divisions were woefully underequipped, and with a perhaps unrecognized pride he terribly miscalculated the fieldworthiness of even the best pieces of Soviet equipment. Perhaps this is understandable, considering how the scrappy weapons of World War II vanquished the Nazis' technologically advanced but underproduced Tigers and Panthers. Still, in hindsight we can see that the Soviet juggernaut was a floundering, rusting mess, technologically disadvantaged not only in regards to ballistic missiles (one issue on which he debunks the myth of Soviet prowess) but more damningly in regards to armour, helicopters, and the infrastructure of modern high-tech warfare.But Suvorov is indeed a provocative, and occasionally heartbreaking, analyst of the treacherous political ladder of the Soviet military, its revolting barracks life (more corrupt and sadistic than the worst excesses of late Austro-Hungarian decadence) and its lack of faith in its own mission. He admits his pride in his nation's weapons (tellingly though, he says he only wants to collect those which have fallen into the use of Americans and freedom-fighters, as with AK-47s favored by the Marines in Vietnam for their simplicity and reliability) but his is one of the great voices of testimony against the Soviet system. It is the voice of a gruff man, whose feelings have long held the habit of concealment, writing with simple prophetic urgency against the great danger he perceives to his hosts in the West and their treasured way of life. While his summaries of Napoleonic or WWII history sometimes raise a skeptical eyebrow, the broad outlines at least of his portrait of cynicism, violence, and conspiracy inside the USSR are clear and true. Also, he urges points of military doctrine that remain valid and necessary. Finally, one cannot deny the guilty-pleasure aspect of this book for Risk amateurs and military gameplayers: his tables of military organization, and those vast numbers of motorized battalions, have an uncanny fascination that must appeal to every world-conqueror fantasist. Use in moderation.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
As a read? Great, otherwise,
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
Having read both Liberators and this one, My feelings for the book are mixed. OK, it is written by a Soviet officer. It is certainly a good and interesting read, and I'm sure it provides a window into the thoughts of contemporary Soviet officers. But...
The first thing I start wondering when I read a Viktor Suvorov book is ... how did he find out about certain things? How would he, a Soviet Ground Forces officers, then of the GRU, know about the operational status of, for example, the Soviet ABM system and Strategic Rocket Forces. Another problem is that Suvorov sometimes can't even seem to make up his mind on his own positions (never mind whether the positions are accurate or not). For example, is the 125mm smoothbore gun a good weapon? In Liberators, the answer would have been no: "In fact, it was an all-powerful gun, which always missed the target." Yet in Inside the Soviet Army, the same gun "Rapira", was assessed much more positively, and that smoothbore guns were an acceptable compromise for increased muzzle velocity and economy of manufacture (a inversal of his Liberator position!) Or how about his meek acceptance of his tank crews being picked from conscripts of "Category 6" (i.e., far from the best available)? In Liberators, the guy depicts himself crying at this kind of policy (leaving him with a batch that doesn't even speak Russian), yet here he is far more accepting. Now he thinks it is a matter of necessity. A third example is his opinion on the Soviet promotion scheme - the position is more important than the rank. In Liberators, it is shown negatively, both in description and example to promote a drunk and incompetent to a deputy regimental commander. Here, it is viewed far more positively in both description and example, such as with Vasilyveskiy. In fact, the entire tone of this book is far more positive than in Liberators. The latter is a story of incompetence and cruelty. Here we still have the cruelty, yet Suvorov gives us a feeling things are mostly logical. There might be a valid reason for all this, but it does create suspicion, since the discrepancy was never explained. Does Suvorov figure that no one would have read his earlier works and did a comparison?
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent and factual,
By Shoobedoo (Maryland, USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Paperback)
The problem with people like Alex from Russia (Well folks...) is that they are automatically dismissive and outright hostile toward anything written by their countrymen who have "left the fold" so to speak, that is even slightly critical of the now defunct Soviet system in any way. Even men like Andrei Sakharov whose motives are above reproach receive similar treatment from the "Alex's" of the world, the same old tired refrain, "Suvorov... is a liar" and that's it... with absolutely no facts to back up their shrill assertions, it's unfortunate, but predictable. Suvorov's "Inside The Soviet Army" and the companion "Inside Soviet Military Intelligence" are excellent examples of an insiders view of the complex machinations of the Soviet military and political systems, well written, factual, and a fine addition to any library. Highly recommended in spite of the baseless accusations of a few people.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
THE EVIL EMPIRE'S WAR MACHINE,
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This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
"Inside the Soviet Army" is a true classic of its genre, an illuminating reading experience that reveals the true nature of the Soviet military and the men behind it. Though the end of the Cold War rendered many of the writer's specific points obsolete, the chapters on the psychology of war, the design and implementation of strategy and tactics, and military economy are timeless. While many of the author's opinions are highly debatable to say the least, his sympathies clearly lie with the United States and its allies and his final question, "Why don't you resist?" is a resonant challenge to every free man to take up the fight against tyranny--wherever it may be--before it's too late.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
a very scary book,
By "soukie" (dayton, ohio United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Inside the Soviet Army (Hardcover)
The book is a very important read for anyone interested in the soviet union, the books title says it the soviet army (really he means armed forces) but it is gives you a understanding of the soviet rulers and their style and paranoia. It is a good book and you will learn a lot about the soviet military and government.
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Inside the Soviet Army by Viktor Suvorov (Paperback - August 1, 1984)
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