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39 of 39 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A good choice,
By Zachary Turner (San Francisco, CA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Integrated Chinese, Level 1, Part 1: Textbook (Traditional Character Edition) (Level I Traditional Character Texts) (Paperback)
This book is quite good. I've studied Japanese for a long time and have gone to great lengths to find a good book for learning it, and it took me about 15 books. I thought that would be the case with Chinese as well, so you can imagine my surprise when the first book I tried actually turned out to be good. This was actually the textbook we used for my class, and although I haven't used many other Chinese textbooks, I would highly recommend this one. There are a number of good points about this book, and a few bad ones:Pros Cons Overall though this is a solid book, and I would recommend it. Note that _the_ best book on Chinese is Beginner's Chinese, by Yong Ho. It is simply the best. Buy it. It's insanely cheap, and unbelievably well written.
23 of 26 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
No longer the best,
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This review is from: Integrated Chinese, Level 1, Part 1: Textbook (Traditional Character Edition) (Level I Traditional Character Texts) (Paperback)
I have used Integrated Chinese (IC) for a semester. This fall I changed to the Interactions/Connections series. My reasons and recommendations are given below.
I do not recommend Integrated Chinese (IC). Teachers may like it because all the course materials come in the each set of books: Textbook, Workbook, Character Workbook. The problem: the pedagogy and the Chinese is out-of-date, the dialogues are poorly written, the grammar explanations and exercises are not great and the audio CDs are poorly structured and poorly recorded. I recommend only the Character Workbook from IC As an example, here is a translation of the first dialogue from IC. IC-I Dialogue 1 Mr. Wang: Hello! Miss Li: Hello! Mr Wang: May I ask your last name? Miss Li: My last name is Li. What's yours? Mr Wang: My last name is Wang, Peng Wang. What is your (whole) name? Miss Li: My name is You Li. Now, here is a translation of the first dialogue from an alternative course: Interactions/Connections by Yan & (J. L-C. Liu Interactions I Dialogue 1 [young] Gao: Hey! Li, what day are you going to register on? [young] Li: I'll register tomorrow. What about you? Today? Gao: No. I'll register the day after tomorrow. Classes start next Monday. Li: Isn't next Monday August 31st? Gao: No. Next Monday is August 30th, not the 31st. Li: August 30th isn't your birthday, is it? Gao: No. My birthday is August 23rd, day before yesterday. What day is your birthday? Li: I'm August, too. August 26th -- tomorrow. Gao: Happy birthday! The Interactions/Connections dialogue is meatier and more challenging. More important, it is real people talking conversational Chinese, and it has strong rhythm and comic and dramatic values (mistaken dates). Those contrasts continue throughout the books. The most common comments from a native Chinese speaker when reading a) Interactions or Connections: "Yes! That's the way we talk." b) IC: "Well ... we usually don't say it that way." The IC dialogues are extremely dull, not really colloquial and have very stilted rhythm. Ideally, you want to MEMORIZE the dialogs in a language course, so you burn the speech patterns into your brain. I challenge anyone to do that with the Integrated dialogs. AUDIO: I haven't heard the Interactions/Connections CDs so I can't comment on whether they are worth the $100 (Indiana University publisher). The IC CDs are pretty bad. They seem to have been made from a cassette master. The have poor miking and uneven volume levels -- when you turn the sound up high enough to hear the man's voice clearly, the distortion on the woman's voice will drive you nuts. The speaking pace is too fast for a beginning level, the pronunciation is not clear and the organization is poor. You can't listen to the tapes without the book in front of you: the vocabulary lists go: "Number 1: 'xiansheng'". Why they wasted precious space giving you a useless item number rather than the english meaning is one of the great mysteries of life. DIFFICULTY: Interactions/Connections is a college-level course and it challenges you from the start. IC appears to be a high-school or middle-school level book. Not much meat, lots of repetition of vocabulary words from chapter to chapter (filler?). PEDAGOGY: IC extremely old-fashioned -- circa 1950's. Interactions/Connections very up-to-date and cognitively savvy; especially note presentation of written characters, presentation of cultural material and snappy dialogue. GRAMMAR: the Interactions/Connections grammar material is much clearer and more up-to-date. EXERCISES: I stopped using the IC workbook pretty early on because the material was both excruciatingly boring and not useful/challenging enough. Level 1, Part 2 textbook exercises become so cryptic as to be useless. Not hard material, just inadequate editing. Recommendation for beginners: 1. Start with at least Pimsleur Mandarin I (full course -- buy, borrow or rent) to get exemplary pronunciation and a strong aural base for the language. 2. Progress to Interactions I. Get a tutor to help you get into the first chapters, and give you information about Chinese culture and up-to-the minute expressions. (You will need a tutor or class for any course except Pimsleur audio courses.) 3. If you have a computer and you can afford it, get Wenlin3. It's worth every penny: built-in dictionary, rich character help and lots of readings. Palm and pocket computers also have very nice dictionaries and Chinese tools. Non-beginners: If you are switching from IC to Interactions/Connections you may have to step back a couple of chapters to catch up. Get the previous book from the library if necessary.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Cannot stress it enough,
By Meng Peide (Seattle, WA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Integrated Chinese, Level 1, Part 1: Textbook (Traditional Character Edition) (Level I Traditional Character Texts) (Paperback)
I am currently studying in China right now, and this book as well as the second-year version formed the foundation of my Chinese. I have been studying Chinese for a little more than two years (almost all of which were in the U.S.) and I am now taking university courses at Tsinghua University. I cannot say enough good things about these books especially compared to other books like the Practical Chinese Reader. The only possible shortcoming (and that is if it is one) is that the grammar and phonetic explanations are sometimes unclear if you do not know the terms (although English is our mother tongue, so . . .), but very clear if you are familiar with English grammar. However, these words are very important if you ever study Chinese in China or use things like the Beijing University Press books which only use the Chinese words for these terms to explain grammar. I noticed that one person criticized the lack of English->Chinese glossary, but the implications and connations of words in Chinese are such that you require a Chinese dictionary to really understand them. My teacher constantly warned us about using an English-Chinese dictionary to find the words we were looking for. The first-year level of integrated Chinese gives you enough words and grammatical structures to survive and thrive in China upon first arrival, as well as flexible and reusable words to enable you to handle many situations.
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