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32 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Jensen may not be the last word on human variation,
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One of the best documented facts of social science is the following: it is possible to administer tests of intelligence that are remarkably (though not completely) reliable and consistent over time. This tested intelligence correlates very highly with success in school. It is also known that tested intelligence correlates with social-economic status, and, even when controlled for SES, within families. So it has been generally accepted, for about a hundred years now, that intelligence has both genetic and environmental components.But for almost as long, there has been a debate over the relative contributions of heredity and environment. There are implications of this debate for social philosophy, for this reason: liberal social philosophers stress the perfectibility of man, while conservatives have a gloomier, more pessimistic view. Since it is easier to alter environmental than genetic factors, liberals hope that intelligence is more environmentally influenced. Now enter Arthur R. Jensen, an enormously productive and talented researcher at the University of California. Since the late 1960's, he has produced a barrage of totally persuasive research that shows, beyond much question, that intelligence has much more to do with heredity than with environment. Any hope that all human beings can have an equal amount of ability is now shattered. In retrospect, of course, such a hope was never reasonable. This is bad news, and not only for the liberals. Jensen's findings make us look at society with less optimism than we would like. His findings do not mean that we must give up on more humane arrangements, nor on our ideals of equal opportunity. But it warns us we must take into account the inequalities in ability that seem here to stay. Miele's book, in the form of an extended interview with Jensen, tells the story of Jensen's research findings and also of the resistance to accepting these findings. There have been political attacks on Jensen as a "racist," and these attacks are duly rebutted in this book. In fact, much of the book is taken up by such controversies, and this is perhaps as it should be. But foolish attacks aside, there are deeper problems with Jensen's presentation of his work that this books barely touches. 1) It needs to be said more clearly and more strongly that the group differences documented by Jensen -- differences of relative frequency -- are statistical in nature and have no application whatever for the assessment of a given individual. 2) The "mental abilities" that are probed in I.Q. and similar tests represent but a small portion of those attributes on which humans differ. We know from personal observation that some people are kinder than others, have more empathy than others, are less selfish than others. Social science, so far, has had little to say about the distribution of such traits. That is regrettable. 3) Jensen is very much impressed by the "abilities" that determine worldly success. He even uses the term "meritocracy" with some approval. His mindset here is self-consciously tough. He does not seem to have much use or interest in those qualities that we may call "saintliness." If an attribute does not show up on a battery of IQ tests, Jensen is not interested. But some day, perhaps, there will be a science of human assessment with a wider focus.
37 of 42 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
An excellent treatise on nature vs. nurture,
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Frank Miele (the author) acts as a "devil's advocate" in this book, as he interviews psychologist Arthur R. Jensen, who is a well-known geneticist. Miele says, in his preface, "In this book, I skeptically cross-examine Arthur R. Jensen on Jensenism' how and why he believes the scientific evidence is even stronger today that: "'IQ is real, biological, and highly genetic, and not just some statistic or the result of educational, social, economic, or cultural factors: "race is a biological reality, not a social construct; and, most controversially of all, "the cause of the 15-point average IQ difference between Blacks and Whites in the United States is partly genetic.'" Jensen went from being a highly respected but little-known educational psychologist and professor at the University of California, Berkeley, until he was solicited, in 1969, to write a 123-page article for the prestigious Harvard Educational Review which began with the opening sentence, "Compensatory education has been tried and it apparently has failed." With that article he became a highly controversial figure because of his contention, which runs counter to the institutionalized politically correct view among social scientists, that heredity is of more importance than environmental factors in determining human intelligence. Jensen, no racist by any stretch of the imagination, demonstrates throughout this book "the interviews which were conducted through e-mail" mainly through statistical analysis and other valid research methodology, the care with which he had arrived at his tentative conclusions. As with The Bell Curve, by Herrnstein and Murray, The Blank Slate, by Steven Pinker, and Race Evolution and Behavior, by J. Philippe Rushton, all scholarly, well-researched books on similar subject matter, the advocates of the more politically correct view that the races may differ in virtually every other respect except intellectually, are attacking the message by attempting to kill the messenger. The interviews that comprise this book are just short of hostile to Dr. Jensen in their tone, never granting agreement or accord, and with every answer, no matter how persuasive, the author merely changes the direction of attack. In fact, in the beginning, he announces his skepticism. But, Dr. Jensen more than holds his own. The e-mail interview method seems to be a good one, since obviously both parties are enabled to be precise in their quotes and double-check everything before sending the question or answer. We are given little information about the author, Frank Miele, except that he is a senior editor of Skeptic magazine, that his articles have appeared on "many web-pages," and that he lives in Sunnyvale, California, with his Great Dane dog, Payce. However, his questions of Dr. Jensen seem relevant and well-researched. The book is important, however, only because of Dr. Jensen's answers, which are invariably direct, careful, and backed up with very persuasive data and statistics. It is a veritable education in statistical methodology. If you are interested in this subject matter, I consider this book indispensable to your library. Joseph (Joe) Pierre Author of Handguns and Freedom...their care and maintenance And other books
23 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Just Doing Factual Science,
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Intelligence, Race, and Genetics spends a lot of time on the scientist Arthur Jensen's opinions and what his agenda or ideology may be. Some questions are along the line of, "Have you ever been associated with, or now a member of a Neo-Nazi organization?" The silliness aside, one comes to the conclusion that Jensen is hesitant to say what the political implications of what his race and IQ research will be. He is mostly interested in doing accurate science, no matter whether the conclusions are politically convenient or not.One gets the impression that public policy problems can't be solved unless the solutions are backed by good, accurate science. You can't solve such problems by wishing that problems and solutions fit a liberal ideology. Otherwise, you'll keep spending money on programs that don't work. I gleaned a few of his opinions from the book. He still believes in integration, but favors a more individualistic education system with less government control. Vituperative attacts from liberals don't bother him as much as winning approval from people who have their prejudices confirmed by his research. (Although I can't see how an opinion based on scientific research can be called merely a prejudice.) He does not think that mass third world immigration to America will benefit this country. An ethical and voluntary eugenics program would benefit this country, but reducing world population growth is his first concern. This book is a nice complement to The Bell Curve, the classic on hereditarian science. Some of the technical explanations of how Jenson comes to his conclusions may be hard to understand for the layman. Jenson puts science first above politics in his research, I don't know if we can say the same for other academics.
15 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A fair look at an issue that's tough to be fair about.,
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This review is from: Intelligence, Race, And Genetics: Conversations With Arthur R. Jensen (Hardcover)
The interviewer did an excellent job of being the polite skeptic, which enabled me to get a balanced, clear-headed look at the incendiary but crucial question of the roles of genetics and environment in intelligence, and even more controversial, in the well-established racial differences in intelligence. I was impressed with Jensen's extraordinary intelligence and surprised at how socially conscious he is, contrary to the media's portrayal of him.
8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
One for the archives,
This review is from: Intelligence, Race, And Genetics: Conversations With Arthur R. Jensen (Hardcover)
Great book/interview/introduction to Dr. Jensen's work. Miele has done a masterful job presenting a human side to the too-often vilified caricature of Dr. Jensen. Anyone (e.g., admirers and antagonists, alike) who reads it will learn something new about one of psychology's most fascinating scientists, and, personally, I think it should be a mandated read for any Introduction to Intelligence course.
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A wonderful introduction to one of 20th century's greatest psychometricians,
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Among personal characteristics of any individual, none is more sensitive topic of discuss than that of intelligence. We all have a somewhat schizophrenic attitude towards it, at the same time considering everyone to be equal while constantly measuring ourselves to others. And, of course, we all think that we are above the average when it comes to intelligence. However, all our scientifically based attempts to quantify intelligence have shown what all of us would expect to find if we were just more honest with ourselves: intelligence varies, sometimes substantially, it is fairly stable throughout our lives, and it has a large heritable component. It is possible to conceive that these psychometric findings would have been accepted by now in public discourse were it not for the persistent and sometimes significant race and sex differences. These differences go against everything that our PC culture has taught us, and people who dare to even hint at them are permanently branded as racist and sexist in public discourse. Even being in top echelons of intellectual elite does not inoculate you from this, as a president of Harvard and co-discoverer of DNA have recently found out. In the light of this, it is not surprising that Arthur Jensen, one of the foremost authorities on individual differences in cognitive ability, has been one of the most controversial figures in science for the past forty years. A former University of California at Berkeley professor of Psychology, he became almost a household name in the late 60s upon the publication of an article in which he speculated about the genetic basis of large racial differences in IQ. Ever since then his scientific work and has been maligned in popular press, and the term "jensenism" entered the English language. The aim of this book is to provide a critical look at this controversy, and to provide an opportunity for Jensen himself to answer some of his critics. The book consists of a series of interviews, conducted by Frank Miele, through which most of Jensen's controversial research and statements are examined. Miele does not pull any punches, and throws almost every at Jensen almost every criticism that he had been faced with over the past several decades. Jensen, meanwhile, passes all the challenges. He provides us with very convincing and well-researched arguments that strongly support his position.
One of the most controversial aspects of the intelligence research is the existence of general intelligence, or the so called "g-factor." This is the idea that all of our mental abilities are very strongly correlated with each other, and the ability to excel at one set of mental tasks is the best predictor of our ability to excel at others. There is over a century of hard quantitative research that strongly supports this view, and Jensen in his answers to the critics provides all the relevant information showing why that is the case. Even though g-factor has been inferred from statistical analysis, it is not an artifact of mathematical sleigh-of-hand, but a very well documented real property of human mind. Recent neurological research has only served to further confirm and strengthen this hypothesis. Jensen also does not shy away from actual and verifiable fact that races are indeed real, and not culturally constructed. It is rather surprising, although maybe in hindsight it ought not to be, that the racial grouping that was found based on the genetic research matches perfectly with the racial classification that had been developed in the nineteenth century. It serves no purpose to try to brush these findings under the carpet, as it is too often done in present day academia. It only leads to the schizophrenic situation where at one hand we are "celebrating diversity" and promoting people based on their skin color, while at the same time claiming that races are nothing but cultural artifacts. The last chapter of the book may be its weakest. Here Jensen is asked to provide his own ideas for public policy, and one gets sense that here he is definitely out of his depth. Admittedly, he himself has stated very clearly that for the most part of his career he had avoided politics, so we should not be to critical of him in this regard. Nonetheless, it is obvious that he is more than sympathetic to the use of government to provide solutions to social ills, be they actual or perceived. This sentiment goes decidedly against all the progress that has been made in promoting greater individual freedom. For a book consisting of a series of interviews, it is very conceptually demanding, and some of the arguments can be very technically intricate. If you are able to follow this kind of reasoning the rewards are immense and well worth the effort.
15 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Arthur Jensen face to face,
By stanleykraski "kras" (Chicago, IL United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Intelligence, Race, And Genetics: Conversations With Arthur R. Jensen (Hardcover)
Arthur Jensen, a man of impeccable credentials among his peers, psychometricians, a man completely devoid of racist thought, a meticulous scientist who has been maligned and indeed slandered by the PC "no nothings" in furtherance of their "feel good" political agenda speaks directly to a very bright and well prepared interviewer in this book. The result, to the fair minded, is a powerful and compelling argument for his science and a devastating put down of those whose opposition to him is mere name calling. They have repeatedly violated the cardinal rule of science, compile the data honestly and let the results speak for themselves, free of prejudice, personal preference, superstition and political posturing. In hundred years, or perhaps in just a few decades his critics will be considered by intelligent laypersons, as they are now by professionals in the discipline, to be the creationists of the human genome.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Solid and Credible -,
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In a series of conversations with author Frank Miele, psychologist Arthur Jensen details the evolution of his thinking on intelligence. Jensen is particularly known for writing "Compensatory education has been tried and it apparently has failed" (the first sentence in a 1964 Harvard Educational Review article, and his title for that article - "How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?" and his conclusion - "Not much." He now (2002) believes the evidence for those conclusions is even stronger, and that IQ is highly genetic. Jensen has published 7 books and over 400 publications.
One of his key findings is that the correlation between the IQs of identical twins reared apart - .78, while that of adopted children vs. their adopting parents is only 0.19, and between naturally-related children is .32. Jensen also points out that hereditability increases with age. Environmental influences have their effects largely on what a person does with his/her level of IQ. Height has a heritability of about 0.30 in infancy, and 0.80 in older adults - like IQ. This is not an argument for environmentalism. At least half of all human genes are involved with the brain, and one-third are entirely so. There is no evidence that a cultural legacy of slavery lowers the average Black IQ. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights found that compensatory education programs (early 1960s) did not raise IQ or pupil achievement of the culturally disadvantaged. The Coleman Report found that school factors explained less than 105 of the variation in pupil performance. The Black-White difference in IQ is only slightly greater than the average difference between siblings raised together. The highest SAT scores in recent years are associated with children of immigrants from India, per the ETS. Researchers at the University of New Mexico found a relationship between the burden of infectious disease in 184 nations and IQ (Economist, 7/3/2010). Experts in international IQ comparisons include Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, and Jelte Wicherts. Jensen is concerned that undergraduate psychology texts have been dumbed down and are full of errors.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Holds up well after eight years,
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Jensen's capstone book, "The g. factor," has been pretty much the final word on traditional psychometric testing. Jensen refers to it often in this conversation. None of its conclusions have been successfully challenged, and in the eight years since this book's appearance the challenges have pretty much fallen off. Jensen's own work followed a different path, culminating in the 2006 publication of "Clocking the Mind: Mental Chronometry and Individual Differences." His belief was that the abstract scale for g., which has no zero and no consistent units separating measurement levels (i.e., the difference between an IQ of 90 and 91 is not the same as the difference between 120 and 121 -- all that they represent is gradients on a bell curve distribution), had been exploited to the maximum useful extent. He was looking for hard physical measurements such as reaction time to explain the same individual differences.
The three tenants of Jensenism, that compensatory education have been tried and failed, that genetic differences are more important than cultural or socioeconomic differences in explaining individual differences in IQ, and that the difference between IQ between races probably had a genetic origin, first presented in his our Harvard educational review article in 1969, had stood the test of time. Interviewer Frank Miele provides a wonderful service in making Jensen's work accessible to readers without the statistical and scientific background required to easily read Jensen's own work. Miele poses a number of questions that cover old ground, defining the nature of intelligence, the techniques of measuring it, and its objective reality as demonstrated through with the statisticians call reliability (it seems to always measure the same thing, across time and across populations) and validity (measured intelligence correlates highly with worldly success, and does so equally well for all populations). In this discussion I use intelligence where Jensen prefers the term g. Please read g for intelligence throughout. In any case, Miele understands the material well and presented very well formulated questions. For all the vituperation Jensen has suffered, he rather steadfastly ducks the opportunity to even scores, purporting not to understand the motives of his many detractors. He comes across as a true gentleman, though the reality is probably that he simply wants to avoid rolling in the mud. He repeatedly challenges his critics to refute him in scientific articles, juried by their peers. Of course they cannot, and Jensen knows it. The argument is effectively over. In the eight years since publication, science has taken its own turns. The question is no longer whether differences exist -- whether or not people want to accept the differences, they know better than to argue -- but why they exist. The human genome project has shed a great deal of useful light on this. Miele includes some of the Cavalli-Sforza's work on the genetic distances between human populations, and Jensen comments but they are very useful and totally consistent with his own work, ignoring Cavalli-Sforza's obstinant refusal to follow where his own observations would lead with regard to intelligence, obviously out of concern that being un-PC would jeopardize his continued funding at Stanford. Cavalli-Sforza and his followers continue to find new theories and explanations for possible differences in intelligence. Last year Harpending and Cochran in "The 10,000 Year Explosion" came up with theories for Jewish intelligence and postulated that the Paleolithic explosion may have resulted from the admixture of Neanderthal genes. Voilà! Last week's science magazine published an article saying that Homo Sapiens strains which had left Africa may have up to four percent of Neanderthal genes. At any rate, this is where the exciting work is today, in teasing out why the differences exist, rather than confirming that they do. In the last chapter of the book Miele draws Jensen out on the implications of his work, coming closer to public policy and politics than Jensen has previously ventured. Jensen hoped that public policy might be informed by his work. Unfortunately, just about the time of this book's publication George Bush promoted the "No Child Left Behind" act, a conspicuous and expensive failure now being compounded by the Obama administration, and California radically increased its spending on education also in the theory that more resources would make a difference. They did not heed Jensen. Jensen advocates teaching each child as an individual, recognizing that they have very different capacities for absorbing learning. This is a good and useful observation. His suggestion that we use individualized computer delivered instruction to meet each child's individual needs shows that he is rather out of touch with the way children operate. Unfortunately, most children need teachers, and the less capable they are of learning, the more they need a concerned adults keep them on task. Computerized learning below the college level is for the most part wishful thinking. Especially this generation is far too easily distracted by the many time-wasting possibilities of computers. Jensen expresses significant concern for the population explosion. In the eight years since publication it has become clear that world population growth is slowing almost everywhere. Jensen correctly observed a dysgenic function in the United States -- less intelligent people have more children. That same phenomenon exists worldwide. By my calculations, no nation on earth with an average intelligence in excess of 96 has a replacement rate above 2.1, the level required to maintain a stable population over the long term. Extrapolating, the world will have fewer and fewer capable people just as the demand for intelligent workers continues to expand. This can only exacerbate the differences between the rich and the poor, the Gini index gulf, and social unrest. Jensen's message is more important than ever.
5.0 out of 5 stars
Remains a lot to be discovered,
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It's a pleasure listen to a scientific who speaks with his own words.I recommended this book to critics. I have read opposite views from Kamin and Gould and I think their opinions are not very sound. My own experience like a Spanish high-school teacher has showed me that there are biological barriers ,partly genetic and probably derived from fetal environment ,that any training,no matter how long or hard it can be,can surpass.
This book prompted me to renew the study of behavioural biology. An idea for any interested in pick it up ,I have no means to investigate this myself:I think that,like ability to use lactose in adults,the genetic make-up of Roman empire allowed Christian religion to expands in the Mediterranean area in the short time span of 300 years.To check this hypothesis I would look at the old christian communities in Japan, I guess that this people will show a genetic marker that you can find in European populations but it's absent for the most part of Asian populations .It must be related with brain anatomy. Islam thrives in the hotter areas of the world.I guess that heat stress resistence proteins must be related with this .Religion is only a elaborated form of behaviour and must have a genetic basis. |
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