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4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars It's all connected, you know.
McKiernan's creative genius shows again with the conclusion to this magnificent tale of the Great War of the Ban. His many stories from the world of Mithgar are stunningly drawn together in this long awaited book. When I first read the Iron tower trilogy many years ago, I was hooked; since then I've managed to buy all of the stories from Mithgar. The events of Into...
Published on December 21, 1999 by Gabriel M. Cole

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1.0 out of 5 stars Barn rats
Who knew war could be so boring? The second book of the Hel's Crucible duology almost rivals the first for boredom and irritating tendencies. During the course of the book, Beau comments, "Four years? No wonder I'm sick of war" or words to that effect. I felt like chiming in, "You and me both."
This book picks up where the first left off, where Tip, Beau, Loric,...
Published on April 28, 2002 by E. A Solinas


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1.0 out of 5 stars Barn rats, April 28, 2002
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Who knew war could be so boring? The second book of the Hel's Crucible duology almost rivals the first for boredom and irritating tendencies. During the course of the book, Beau comments, "Four years? No wonder I'm sick of war" or words to that effect. I felt like chiming in, "You and me both."
This book picks up where the first left off, where Tip, Beau, Loric, Phais and Bekki are all setting out to finally get that stupid little coin to Agron. When they finally get it to him, they find out that there is a specific (and very dumb) purpose behind it, and become even more enmeshed in the war with Modru's sinister forces. At the same time, Tip finds that his girlfriend Rynna and her band of Warrows (warrior-hobbits) are still alive. But Modru's horde is not the only thing that threatens Our Heroes -- a deadly plague is sweeping Dendor. And to destroy Modru's forces, they will have to rely on a force that no one can control...

The first book was kind of like watching the heroes running on a hamster wheel; they were running, but they weren't actually going anywhere or accomplishing anything. This time, they actually accomplish things. But it's the same thing; they run to someplace, they get new allies for the Good Guys, something bad happens, they overcome it. Repeat for 550 pages. We are told in almost day by day detail about what they were doing, where they were going, and what direction they were going in. Loric, Phais and Bekki all sort of drift in and out.

And major plot developments like the plague, the destruction of Atala, and that thing with Galarun and the sword feel tacked on. The plague, for example, begins and ends within the course of this book, and it adds nothing to the plot. We're told that the Silver Sword can kill Gyphon, about halfway through the book; that's over three quarters through the story, and it feels like it was tacked in solely to add more pages to the meager storyline. The last thirty pages are exceptionally poorly written; it feels like McKiernan got sick of the whole story, and simply added some vague descriptions to an initial outline. The extremely important threat from Gyphon is added as an afterthought.

The cast is too large for anyone to have much character development, and there is very little personal difference between Elves, Mages, Men, Warrows, and so on. Traumatic events such as the destruction of Atala last a lot less time then they should. After Loric and Phais find out exactly what happened, everyone gets upset for about ten minutes, then ambles off on their way. And supposedly important events are... well, underwhelming is too vague a word to use. When they finally get the idiotic coin to Agron (and by this time I was thoroughly sick of it) we are told its purpose. I ended up shouting, "That's IT? That's ALL?" At one point, Agron's army is wiped out by an avalanche. There is no real feel of crisis during all of this.

Even so, the climax managed to snag me and force me to take it seriously. But then the Utruni showed up, and everything came apart. I'm sorry, but when they started speaking in a mangled Yorkshire accent, I laughed so hard I dropped the book. The Warrows are utterly annoying warrior hobbits (imagine Frodo joining the Marines), without the simple charm of Tolkien's creations. The Elves are still weird; the Dwarves sort of peter out somewhere during the story.

Characterizations are even flatter than in the first book, and unfortunately we also have more annoying female Warrows; Rynna, and her irritating cousin Linnet. We still have Tolkien ripoffs: the Warrows are essentially hobbits in combat; the Gargons/Balrogs; Agron/Elendil; trolls, uruk-hai, orcs/ogrus, hloks, and rukhs; Boskydells/Shire; Modru/Sauron; Atala/Numenor; Gyphon/Morgoth; ents/Woodwer, and so on...

Dialogue is still a problem, as is repetition. If I hear "oh my" or "barn rats!" one more time, I think I'll shriek. We are forced to endure the exact same descriptions in the season-changing ritual as before; and a paragraph on one of the final pages is, word for word, identical to one in the Iron Tower trilogy. (Mr. McKiernan, if you can't write a new description of the Thornwall, please don't write any description of it at ALL!)

As in the last book, we are treated to excruciating romance. Thankfully, Elf lovers Phais and Loric are pretty much celibate in this book. But we have Tip and Rynna, and Beau taking up with the picky Linnet. (Yes, again, he falls instantly in love with minimal exposure to Warrow girls, and I fail to see the attraction to either Rynna or Linnet) Unfortunately, we also have to deal with Elissan, the pervert Elf from Book 1 -- she's still focusing on seeing Tip in the nude. (I was once jokingly called a "pervy hobbit fancier," but the description fits her better!)

Outstandingly poor, failing even to succeed as a ripoff. I don't know why McKiernan sent this story to his editor without a few years of rewriting.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Is there a half star category?, July 27, 2005
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The first book in this series was so so over all with a pretty fair set of opening sequences.The context however includes improbable concepts and battle action no-shows.
There must be an audience for this author but for the life of me,I have no idea how he finds a publisher. I have not read any of his other works nor do I intend to.These volumes referred to were given to me,therefore no regrets at spent money on them.
This reminds me of a summer replacement television series, the ones that get clicked off very quickly.
Sorry, I hate to write a bad review but this one deserves all of it.
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4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars It's all connected, you know., December 21, 1999
This review is from: Into the Fire (Mithgar) (Mass Market Paperback)
McKiernan's creative genius shows again with the conclusion to this magnificent tale of the Great War of the Ban. His many stories from the world of Mithgar are stunningly drawn together in this long awaited book. When I first read the Iron tower trilogy many years ago, I was hooked; since then I've managed to buy all of the stories from Mithgar. The events of Into the Fire have been alluded to in all of his works, and finally the whole of his work is brought together in this one book. The events that were only hinted at before now become clear, explaining much of the history of his world. The characters once again become people, become real in a way that far too many writers cannot accomplish. The story is as good as ever, the places as wonderous. McKiernan truly is a master of the fantasy epic.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Too Many Characters, July 18, 1999
I have read almost every one of McKiernan's books and this was the most hard to read through. After reading his other novels, I've become tired of his stories centering around warrows, which is a minus. The only other problem with this book is that so many characters were met by the main two warrows that when you see that some of them have died you wonder who they were. By allowing Beau and Tip to have adventures around most of the world of Mithgar, it is near impossible to care for any of the people that the two warrows meet. However, if you enjoyed Into the Forge, you won't be disappointed by the ending in Into the Fire.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Disappointing, July 15, 2011
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I've really enjoyed McKiernan's work, but this book felt forced as if he lost interest in it about halfway through. The book could have easily been 150 pages shorter.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Into the Repetition (Part 2), April 16, 2002
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This book was hard for me to read. I've reviewed the first one of this duology, and the same problems exist for this book. It is too repetitive, chiefly in the areas of travel and philosophy. There is no reason for these novels to be this long. Such a waste., and I was able to finish it.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Never disappointed!, November 10, 1999
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As a long time McKiernan fan, I briefly strayed for some years but found my way back and was not disappointed. I couldn't put the book down and cannot wait until the last book is on the shelves! By the way when will that be?
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5.0 out of 5 stars Loved it., August 26, 1998
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I cannot express the sheer joy that Denis books bring me. Yes, there is a mulitude of fantasy out there, and each can be unique. What I find appealing bout McKiernan's books that I feel a true sense of 'home' to his books. I truly love going back to the wonderful world he has created. The previous reviewer said he felt McKiernan has sold out by spreading this tale over two books. Hardly. Sold out, never. Authors such as Goodkind and Jordan are more of a sell out by spreading there tales over countless novels. No, this tale is amazing.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Great characters, who deserve a better book, August 16, 1998
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Dennis McKiernan has a talent for creating likable characters who catch your interest and make you care for them. He has done that in this book. Unfortunately, he takes them nowhere, very slowly. I read fantasy for escapism. When it reads more like an essay on the dichotomy between good and evil, it is time to re-think the basic premises. Introspection and soul-searchng are wonderful, character-developing tools. Mr. McKiernan has mis-used them, and sold out; he could have written a much bettter book in one volume, but sold out for the bucks. This leaves me on the horns of a dilemma; do I just ignore the next volume (Into the Fire), or take a chance that he got it together and go on? I probably will read the next book, but I will reserve judgement. . . .
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5.0 out of 5 stars COOL, May 22, 2002
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I think that Into the Fire is a book that brings together action, fiction, and a bit of romance. Tip and Beau return in the sequal to Into the Forge. As Tip and Beau become seperated form their friends they incounter many dangers, and in them also many havens and friendly people.
I recomend this book to anyone who likes Lord of the Rings, or something of the sort.
Anyone reading this will notice simularities to Lord of the Rings and some may not like it because it relates to much.
This book, I reccomend, to anyone above the age of thirteen and up, and to both male and female audiences, although males may like it more.
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