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Good, but the first edn was Great, October 11, 2001
This is a good book - but as a revision of a much-revered classic of the field, it's a bit of a disappointment. Hopcroft & Ullman wrote the classic text way back in 1969, and then revised it in 1979. It was pretty much the standard text the world over for an introduction to the theory of computation. But over the last two decades, more and more people have been studying Computer science, and many of them have no time for theory and formalism and all the 'dry stuff' .......... The authors point out that because of such reasons and also because nowadays there's little research in the theory of computation per se, and more in its applications, they've written a book to cater to today's students. Which, in other words, means they've simplified the presentation, tried to provide intuition whenever possible, given lots more examples and done away with some of the more difficult material. This approach puts the book into direct competition with Michael Sipser's excellent 'Introduction to the theory of computation', a contest it cannot win, though it might be a respectable second. Almost all topics are motivated by giving examples of how they're related to applications in the 'real world', and similar to Sipser's 'proof idea' approach, the authors first present a topic informally and then formally, thus gently leading the reader to the formal proofs. This book sets out to do pretty much the same as what Sipser's book does, ie to provide a readable, user-friendly introduction to the theory of computation with lots of examples and intuitive approach to problems wherever possible, but Sipser's already done an 'optimal' job. Moreover, this book tries to be 'chatty', which i'm afraid is just not the authors' style - the 'economy of expression', which has long which has long been the hallmark of the legendary textbooks by Aho,Hopcroft and Ullman, is sadly missing here. Which means that this may not be the book for you if you're pressed for time - but on the other hand, if you want to led gently to the proofs and results with lots of examples and motivation, then this might be just the book for you. So all in all, it definitely worth a read - in fact, i'd say it's still among the top textbooks around. In fact, i would suggest that you read both this and Sipser, if you have the time. Otherwise Sipser's the better choice for most of the part, though it may not cover all the topics you need. And if you're comfortable with a terse, concise & rigorous presentation, then the earlier edition of this book is still unbeatable - and you'll surely need it if you want to pursue research in this area.
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27 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Thoughts on this second edition, February 5, 2002
I've just passed my exam on Theory of Computation, and I've used both editions of this text. Frankly speaking, I couldn't choose one of the two should I keep only one of them. Whereas the first was full of strict formalism, the second has traded this for a more discursive approach. Whereas the first reported theorems name (of their authors), the second has traded this for a richer bibliography at the end of the chapters. And more objectively, the first edition covered more "classical" topics with shorter treatments than the second, but this last treats survived topics with richer details (starting from the first chapter on mathematical basis for the course) and with updated examples of applications (XML and Markup Languages, e-commerce for DFA, etc). This said, you know why I can't decide. A discursive approach is of course always desiderable, especially if you're completely new to a subject, but a strong notation is helpful in my mind because it improves communication and removes ambiguities. Hence, the best approach would probably have been a mix of the two, or halfway the two. As a second matter, having a rich bibliography is surely helpful both for further studies and as a reference, but it's quite tedious to look at the index and be unable to find something like "Kleene theorem": you've to dive into bibligraphy to discover that "L is an L(DFA) if and only if it also is L(REG)" is something that has been studied by Kleene. Finally, I surely can't question the removal of the complexity theory part since it is in the right of the authors to remove "optional topics" (if you use the book for a course on Theory of Computation only) and give a more focused target to the book, but removing stuff like the Myhill-Nerode theorem make things annoying since virtually every course on Automata theory and Computation includes it (like my one did, as well as the course on Languages and Compilers), so you have to look for it elsewhere if your only one book is this second edition. I would give four stars, should I keep in heavy account the radical changes they made over the first edition and that includes the removal of some stuff, important on my opinion. But ... this is just my opinion, and since it is a very well written and informative book (rich of many details that other texts lack of) and surely one of the bests in the area (I've had 4-5 books in my hands for this course), that's why I gave it 5 stars.
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24 of 26 people found the following review helpful:
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Second edition impressions, December 15, 2000
Like other reviewers, I find that the first ("classic") edition of H&U is an excellent reference when one is already familiar with some Theory of Compuation material. It was indispensible in at least the first half of the graduate Theory of Computation course that I took. H&U1 featured more detailed descriptions of automata construction than any other text. It did, however show its age. In the second edition, the authors have added a few chapters near then end of the book on topics that simply did not exist twenty years ago (eg, there is a treatment of randomization). At the same time, I find that the new edition is more readable for an undergrad. The introductory chapters expect less from students coming into contact with CS Theory for the first time. There are far more diagrams and sidebars and the overall tone of the book is far less formal. On the one hand, this book has the potential to become the canonical undergrad text on Theory of Computation, I find that it has the feeling of a book that would appeal to undergrads much more readily than Kozen (which tends to intimidate students by the density of the material it manages to pack per page). On the other hand, somehow I still prefer H&U1. One gets the feeling from H&U2 that it tries to hide something from students, whereas H&U1 pulled no punches. And the cover art on H&U1 made it really distinctive (ala the cover of the Dragon Book), whereas H&U2 looks pretty much like any other modern textbook. It's sad that H&U2 is a second edition of the book, rather than an entirely new book. It would have been wonderful to have both books in print as they serve somewhat orthogonal roles.
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