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77 of 90 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Demonstration of plurality of Muslim societies,
By A Customer
This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
Less than a third of this book is about homosexuality in present-day Muslim countries, but a major purpose of the book is to show that the repressiveness sponsored by contemporary "Islamicist fundamentalists" is not the only Muslim approach. Indeed, historically, accommodations to pederasty and to a few gender-variant individuals were made, and The Abode of Islam was far less hostile to same-sex eros and same-sex sex (so long as the insertees were young, effeminate, and/or non-Muslim) than Christendom. This is not to say that homosexuality is part of the religion. As Roscoe's chapter shows, the area conquered/converted by Muslims had a history of accommodations of pederasty and gender-dichotomized homosexuality (the two types have been mixed in many places with entertainers who have been both young and effeminate). Murray's longest chapter on "the will not to know" about what anyone who looked or thought about what's going on has a wide utility (he specifically links it to Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" "policy"). The chapters on literature -- especially those of Jim Wafer -- push perhaps too hard for a homosexual (rather than homoerotic) readings. The line between "history" and `anthropology" is blurred, and the contemporary materials are mostly non-Arab, centering on Pakistan.
72 of 91 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature.,
By Daniel Pipes, Middle East Forum, Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
Put aside the homophilism and the jargon, both of which are a bit strong, and whats left is a fascinating and eye-opening book about a topic much hinted at but little considered systematically. The authors not only have the benefit of knowing homosexuality in many other societies but are well grounded in matters Islamic. Despite the title, they deal predominantly with men; lesbians are little known about. As with so much else in the sexual realm, Islamic norms differ profoundly from Western ones. The authors establish several points: (1) Islam treats homosexuality far less harshly than does Judaism or Christianity. (2) Sex between men results in part from the segregation of women and in part from the poetic and folk heritage holding that the penetration of a pretty boy is the ultimate in sexual delight. (3) Sex between men is frowned upon, but accepted so long as the participants also marry and have children; and also if they keep quiet about this activity. (4) The key distinction is not hetero- vs. homosexual but active vs. passive; men are expected to seek penetration (with wives, prostitutes, males, animals); the only real shame is attached to serving in the female role. (5) Youths usually serve in the female role and can leave behind this shame by graduating to the male role. (6) The great Muslim emphasis on family life renders homosexuality far less threatening to Muslim societies than to Western ones (Muslim men seeking formally to marry each other remains unimaginable). In the most startling parts of Islamic Homosexualities, Murray and Roscoe re-interpret important historical developments through the prism of male sex among Muslims. For example, they make a plausible case that sexual attraction was a significant impetus for the development of military slavery throughout the Muslim world. Less persuasively, they speculate that the relaxed Muslim attitude on this subject incited medieval European hostility to homosexuality as a way for those otherwise backward peoples to feel superior to Muslims. Middle East Quarterly, June 1997
41 of 54 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A Masterpiece, You Will Love This Book,
By Afdhere Jama, author of ILLEGAL CITIZENS (San Francisco, CA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
From the cover to the last page, *Islamic Homosexualities* is packed with information that is really useful to the queer Muslim of today. From "Slave Elites" of the Ottoman Empire to the "Gender-Defined" roles of African Homos, from the "Male Actresses" to the "Pakistani Male Prostitues," the book is truly packed with shocking yet factual information. There is little information about lesbians in the book. In fact, there are only two lesbian voices in the book! A "Balkan Sworn Virgin" and a "Gender-Crossing in Southern Iraq." Beside those, the book is all about the boys, the boys and just some more boys. I will tell you right now, the last part of the book is my favorite! Why? Because it is packed with stuff from our time. While it was interesting reading about Muslim fags in the Ottoman Empire, it couldn't be compared with the current situations in places like Pakistan. Delicious, Oh my Goodness! And I don't mean that in a sexual way, mind you. But rather it feeds the soul. Hassan Mujtaba, a journalist, hits the road and you can just take big guesses what he finds! Without giving away the nutrious stories in the book, let me just say that it remains the top on my "best" list... for... ever!
4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Islamic Homosexualities,
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This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
It gives lots of information on Islamic culture and history for pre 1600 that can be very useful.
25 of 87 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Why are there no negative stars?,
By A. Alto (Woodside, CA United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
Honestly, I wish there were negative stars so that I could express my opinion of this book more accurately.This book should be better listed in the "fiction" category, since so much of it is based on unreliable personal accounts. The whole premise of the book rests upon the old Euro-orientalist myth that "sinful" behavior such as homosexuality runs rampant in the "sinful" realm of Islam, and that the religion of Islam is more tolerant of gays and lesbians than Christianity. As most Muslims know, such ideas are utter nonsense. After all, a few strict Muslim jurists argue that the death penalty is the proper Islamic punishment prescribed for persons convicted of homosexual intercourse. How many Christian high-priests would today concur with that sentence? (Of parenthetical note, however, is the fact that the Biblical book Leviticus actually recommends that very punishment.) All things considered, the book represents less an in-depth analysis into homosexuality in Muslim culture than an idealized, perverted fantasy world of these Western-born and bred authors.
15 of 76 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Is this a joke???,
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This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
To say that Islam tolerates Homosexuality is a very humorous claim indeed. This author focuses on practices done by corrupt muslims who do not even read their own book. The Quran numerously talks about Homosexuality, Condeming it over and over. First it warns the men not to leave their wives and go for other men. Another verse states How God dealt a destructive Force (severe storms) on the People of "Lot" that instantly killed all their inhabitants as punishment for such a sinful act. Then there are the VAST testimonies of Homosexual muslim who choose not to engage in Homosexual acts and lead a Heterosexual life in order not to Sin in the name of God. I could go on, this is so pathetic that it's not even worth my time reviewing this. MY ADVICE, BEFORE YOU BELIEVE IN SOMETHING SOMEONE SAYS OR WRITES ABOUT, do your own independant research to see if the author is honest or just a fanatic. In this cas go read what the Quran really says about homosexuals.
7 of 73 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
The Biggest Piece of Junk ever written!!,
This review is from: Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History, and Literature (Paperback)
Islamic Sexualities by Stephen O. Murray is probably the worst piece of Literature ever written.It is all fiction, it does not contain even one bit of truth. It was just written by a bunch of homosexuals who are attempting to justify homosexuality by "claiming" that the Middle East tolerates homosexuaity which is a bunch of trash considering the fact that homosexuality by Islamic Law and Middle Eastern Secular Law is punishable by DEATH! This book is a waste of money not to mention a waste of trees, and has no benefit. It is just a waste of time, even a "fairy tale" or for that mmatter a "tall tale" has more truth than this book.
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