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50 of 63 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Among the half dozen truly great games,
By feldenstein calypso "feldenstein" (minneapolis) - See all my reviews
= Fun:4.0 out of 5 stars
This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
A note on my ratings and preferences:
I have never been able to come close to giving a game 5 stars. There are just way too many ways for a game to go wrong. I am not opposed, indeed I dream of encountering a 5 star game. It has just never happened. 5 stars would mean it was a work of art. 4 stars means it was a truly excellent game that I highly recommend, but it will still have problems. 3 stars is mainly positive but with notable problems- worth trying depending on your preferences. 2 stars is seriously problematic and not recommended. I prefer storyline and character in a game. I am not terribly good at games and have a very low frustration level and so like the difficulty on the easy side, however, I will fight through difficult play if I really like the game. I read complaints sometimes about games being too short, but I have yet to find one that was too short and rarely finish the games I play. My favorite genres are rpgs and action adventure, but I will try anything. Jade empire, a beautiful game I loved, is a classic example of the four stars above. Easily one of the best games I ever played I can still name a lot of small things wrong with it. It's funny, before I started playing computer/video games in the current 3D generation I would have assumed that a great many of these games would be much like jade empire. These would be games with strong stories, meaningful dialogue choices, intelligible character development, people to talk to, heroism, at least somewhat diverse challenges, and, yes, fighting. It is still surprising to me how rare bioware is and how rare a game like this is. I mean, I finished this excellent game about 5 minutes ago, I appreciated it, even loved it a good bit, and I really don't want to sound like a complainer, but sometimes I feel like this is the 10,000 pound elephant in the room nobody ever ever talks about and I find I just need to now, here, after this very enjoyable game. It's like this. What if you loved movies, but no one had ever made anything like, I don't know, the godfather (pick your own; what I mean is a masterpiece, Casablanca, sunset boulevard, fanny and Alexander, whatever). What if the only movies were like, oh, at best, superman returns (by this I mean a good popcorn genre movie, a good movie, a fun movie)? What if two or three movies came out a year that were even as good as superman returns and the rest were various levels of worse. That's how I feel about games, that's where I think we are with games, and sometimes I feel stupid for liking them or for believing, hoping, waiting for them to be more. And sometimes I get so tired of the hype, the games that score 100 or 5 stars or whatever, games I like but still think, yeah, but it's just a game. There are thousands and thousands of movies, songs, paintings, books, that stand in some other realm of power. Maybe a game is just different and cannot go there, but somehow I think they can and I await the people with the vision and talent and courage to take the first game over. I do think it's possible and I do think bioware, the people who made Jade Empire are probably the most likely of all the people currently making games to do this. Okay. I will rate on these categories: Difficulty: excellent! There are difficulty levels (which I love with a burning passion, and see no good reason not to have). I think there were three and I unlocked a fourth when I finished on easy. Easy was very very easy and I imagine on normal I would have been fine, maybe dying six or a dozen times, but I love cruising through the combat. It helps make the walking around, talking, collecting parts of the game that I so enjoy that much larger. It also alleviated some of the issues concerning sluggish, non responsive controls that, fairly speaking, had something to do with my framerates and fading computer. The rpg elements were quite clear and sensible and dialogue/puzzles and navigation were pretty simple. I actually hate to say it since it didn't bother me really, but a wee bit more challenge on dialogue and puzzles might have been okay, I'm just thinking of a little more kotor type things, just, maybe something with a little math or something. But, really, for me very high marks on this, if you like things deadly challenging, complex, obtuse, involved, you might not be so happy. Graphics: very very nice, varied and pretty environments. It is in no way a jaw dropper like oblivion or something, but on the other hand, unlike oblivion, its environments tend to be on the wilder more inventive side which makes up for a lot. Indeed I think that is the more important to me. Also the characters look really quite good. I enjoyed walking around the world looking around, though it had its limits- mainly that the view always seemed a bit hemmed in, not a lot, I'm just saying getting to a high spot didn't really lay it all out for you. I liked the Far East setting, particularly for being modestly original. After getting a ps2 and trying some of that system's rather overrated japanese rpgs it was funny to finally play a game with actual Asian characters and have it be made in the west. Storyline: very good, well paced, interesting and clear. The characters and character interaction in say, knights of the old republic 2, was deeper and to me better (I compare because these are both similar and the best of their kind). Also there was a section of kotor 2 that hinted at greatness and there was no moment like that in jade empire, but on the other hand jade told a whole story that was complete in itself. It made basic sense and didn't dissipate into emptiness or nonsense. This is a more rare and valuable quality than one might think in gaming. I also really liked that you really moved through the story, there weren't any big actions or sections that felt so separate, like, here's the gameplay and the story is over there. The meaningful dialogue was really important to making that happen and the more I see of that in games the happier I shall be. Of course, the lack of regenerating enemies, random fights, and leveling up also added to the pace and the immersion of the storyline. The game handled serious stuff pretty well, but the comic relief stuff was fairly weak though the crazy inventor may have had a moment or two. Everything about this game was elevated by the totally great and professional 100 percent voiced dialogue. So, if it were a book with this story, or a movie, kind of cleaned up, it might be a C or something. For a game it was great, maybe an A- (I don't know where these grades started coming from all of the sudden). Gameplay: Sorry, this is getting ridiculously long so I'll try and move along. Let's see, loved the dialogue stuff, just talking to people and basically doing quests that involved talking. I mean, loved it. I only wish there was more of it and more complex, especially using charm or intuition which I went to some trouble to develop very highly but too rarely got a chance to employ, especially in the last third of the game. I'd read the complaints about the simplified rpg elements with stats and equipment and all so was more surprised at how much there actually was to it. But that's just expectation. In reality It was pretty slim, no clothes or armor or weapons (sort of) and you don't do anything with companions stats or anything. I think you do tend to have more money than things to buy and your development is maybe more standardized underneath than it seems. The biggest diversity in the development mainly comes in the weapon styles and it's most meaningful because you can only develop a small percentage significantly. Only one companion travels with you at a time, but that was actually better than I thought too. There are enough cutscenes and gathering spots to feel like you're a little group. Navigation is clear and pretty fun. Minigame is fun enough. Load times for everything are shortish. The amount of fighting in this game, while significant, is, thank the celestial bureaucracy, definitely less than most, and in a way that tends to leave you in the game world more and in your stat screens less (though maybe a little too much less, but barely). I will add, mainly since I've been messing some with the PS2, that there is no nonsense about fights taking place somewhere else, out of nowhere, or with load screens (god how a hate that stuff). You see an enemy, you fight it. Okay, I rarely finish games, but I did everything possible in this game and it took me 31 hours. I really liked it and in the middle dreaded that it had to end at some point- a way I feel when I'm reading a book I like a lot, but so very rarely with games. I would rate Jade Empire on a level with maybe 4 or 5 other games ever! Everything else would rate below it. I strongly recommend it if you're at all inclined. Good luck.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Jade Empire,
By Nate Mallow (Waupun, Wisconsin) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
The game is great and I love playing it. The story is wonderful and the settings at times look like beautiful works of art. I was always focused and immersed when playing I could feel myself compelled to continue and play. The combat is one I thing might have to criticize. It can get repetitive using the same attacks over and over but the large list of styles helps. However it often comes down to deciding what is the most efficient style(Though opinion may vary). In combat if I had a challenging enemy I would often back them into a corner or switch between styles to prevent them from doing anything(Though the switching of styles is good synergy)Another problem I find is when comparing this game and Knights of the Old Republic (Another game developed by the same company) When playing I noticed something similar between the two characters. Inside the story they label the character with a title (In Jade Empire, Spirit Monk, KOTOR, Revan). Throughout the story your character is almost always referred to by that name (Though the character needs to be referred to some how besides "hey you" and the title does add some interest and value to the character). I just find it to be a minor annoyance and made me feel like the company recycled some parts from KOTOR. I would recommend this game to anyone who enjoys Rpgs and even to people new to Rpgs.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Nice!!,
By Vappour (SYLMAR, CALIFORNIA United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
A truly fine RPG and a real treat for anybody who played and enjoyed KOTOR 1. Jade Empire has all the Bioware trademarks: Good graphics, a fine story, great dialog, romance, challenging combat (on higher settings) and interesting characters/locations. Like KOTOR, it has two paths to follow (something like good and evil), plot twists and even the ability to completely change your alignment near the end. Some people say it's "cartoonish", but I definitely don't agree. Rather I think it tries to impart a sense of another culture's mythology, and it succeeds beautifully in my opinion. Think Titan Quest if you want an example (or Star Wars for that matter). I did almost everything in the game, and it took me about 30 hours to complete. There are a lot of cut scenes, but they can be easily skipped by pressing the ESC key. If dialog screens bother you, you shouldn't be playing this type of game in the first place. It's really a shame that it took so long for Bioware to port Jade Empire to the PC. It would have been much more popular if it had come out a year ago. Even so, I count this as among my favorites to be played many times.
6 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent, Inexpensive, Enjoyable Game,
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This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
If you've managed to play or see "Neverwinter Nights 2", this game's graphics match or excel it--a significant feat considering that NWN2 is over a year newer, and has extremely steep system requirements that prevent it from working well on most PCs. This game isn't turn-based in combat as NWN/DnD is; you live and die by how fast you use your skills. There are plenty of areas in experience and buffing and alignment to vary the gameplay widely and pleasantly.
The storyline is pleasantly surprising and quite engaging (some of it not quite predictable). Lots of humor in the game as well (when you're able to play the character of Black Whirlwind, read his journal log, then kill 100 human enemies before killing a large golem to see a successive graduation of kill titles). Romance abounds for the "shippers" of RPG games, too: Not only can same-sex relationships work, but male players can romance two females at once (add 70's music here). This addition, as well as some blood fountains on killing some enemies, makes this game as M for Mature, however, parents needn't worry about language, but should be mindful of the sexual suggestive content in terms of threesomes and same-sex romance (the male-female kiss is shown, but BioWare does not show same-sex kisses). The price is agreeable, too. PCs need a good DirectX 9 video card to make this work. Mac users with MacBook Pros or Intel-based Macs with non-integrated video (sorry, MacBooks) will find this game a blast (and is what I played this game with using Apple Boot Camp). Martial-arts gaming fans (particularly monk players from Neverwinter Nights) should consider this a must-buy.
8 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Looks great - nice balance,
By MJS (CA USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
The fighting system in this game is a nice balance of "arcade style" (click a lot) and more of an RPG style like Neverwinter Nights (the character does a lot of the basic fighting on its own). I think they did much better than Oblivion, for example, which I find frustrating to control. The graphics are some of the best I have seen and the faces look really good. In fact, the women are quite attractive and the shaping and movement is good enough that they read as very athletic young women. The way hair and clothes move is very good as well. Although the core story is pretty standard stuff, I thought there were some nice innovations and details. If you like martial arts movies, you are quite likely to enjoy this game.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A rare Wu Xia RPG,
By Grand Theft Ming Dynasty (New York City, NY USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
Taking a look at my signature you know I like Chinese Wu Xia movies and novels. And this is the perfect RPG game for Wu Xia fans like me. It's a game with beautiful scenes, handsome actors, and interesting plots that all RPG gamers will certainly love. Another classic RPG from Bioware.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Great RPG,
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This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
The actors in this game are by far the best I've seen, a great RPG and the price is so low the game is so worth it to buy.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Good Solid RPG, Lotsa Yammering Included,
By g10tto "Chris" (Kingston Springs, TN United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
I like Jade Empire a whole lot, I won't lie. It only took me about 15 hours to beat, and the graphics and music were quite excellent! About halfway, once you start consulting your little group as a whole, the characters really shine . And let's face it, you play RPG's because you want a good story. Jade Empire delivers!
My only beef is this: There's just too much forced dialogue. Yes, you know my name. Yes, you've probably heard of me. Yes, I assume you have a troublesome past as well. Do we have to stand around and talk about nothing for 15 minutes though? Normally I get into RPG's with heavy dialogue, but then it usually serves to advance the plot. With just about every character I met, it felt like I was trapped in another dumb script. And obviously, if you get impatient you can earn brownie points for being evil, but tiptoeing through and staying neutral or good in conversation doesn't really affect your moral standing as much as a side quest does. And even then, you don't have to try hard to sway either way, because halfway through the plot, the game decides to shift you right into the choice you're nearest to. The benefit of swinging good or evil, by the way, only gives you different abilities and potential power-ups. I don't think there's any way the plot will change significantly by going "the alternative route." Also, the voice acting is great (Nathan Fillion plays Lesser Gao; geek points!), but like a bad kung-fu movie, it's hard to get over how much the voices don't fit the visual profiles of the characters. Read into that as much as you like. I just wish it was a little more authentic, if you know what I mean. Anywho, get it! It's like $6 at the most here on Amazon, if you buy it used, which I certainly couldn't pass up.
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Great Storyline,
By Debra "newsome365" (Cobbtown, GA United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
I just finished this game, and what a pleasant suprise it was. I was a little bored through the first chapter, then all of the sudden, I began to realize what a wonderful story this was. I've become so acoustomed to playing RPG's with weak story lines, that I had forgotten what it felt like to get engrossed in one that played out like a good movie.
Although it's strong point is the supurb story, this game doesn't have too many faults. The Controls are intuitive, combat is interesting, music is great and the graphics are quite acceptable. If you are trying to run this game on Vista, remember to R-click on the icon and run as administrator, in order to load your save games. Don't miss this great,fun game.
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
An excellent game.,
By Cool Breeze "Crystal" (Oregon) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Jade Empire Special Edition (DVD-ROM)
Jade Empire Jade Empire Special Edition (Rhino Demon Exclusive Content) is one of the best RPG games around. The fight system is simple, but still can be quite challenging on advanced settings. The Companion characters can be hilarious although most are not terribly useful. The storyline is creative and complex. It's very linear but allows an exceptional amount of player choice. Player choices really can alter the outcome of the game quite a bit. I'm bored quite easily, yet this is one of the few games that I've played through more than once. The special edition has a few options and in-game items that don't exist in the other versions.
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Jade Empire Special Edition by BIOWARE (Windows)
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