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50 of 50 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
So you wanna translate manga...,
By tremorviolet (Austin, TX) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
You've taken a class or two at school, you've learned kana and you've got a kanji dictionary so you're all set, right?
Not so fast. If you've ever picked up a real Japanese comic (manga) you've probably realized that spoken Japanese is very different (and downright incomprehensible) from what you're learning in the textbook. Well, this book is what you need. Forget "Japanes in Mangaland" and all the other cutesy manga related Japanese titles. They're just basic Japanese texts gussied up with a few pretty pictures. This book uses real manga strips to illustrate key grammar points. The author also goes into detail with each panel so you get vocabulary and cultural references. And while the manga strips aren't the most current Shonen Jump, they are interesting. Bottom line: if you want to read manga, get this book. If you're doing Ok in Japanese but are still fuzzy on some of the casual, spoken constructions, get this book. I wish it had been around a few years ago when I first started learning Japanese and trying to decipher my manga.
26 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Good Resource,
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This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
This is an excellent supplementary book to your Nihongo arsenal. It covers a suprisingly large amount of grammar, all in a well thought out description. This book covers mostly colloquial speech, which is nice for those of us who dont have access to hearing Japanese conversations very often (if at all). In-formal forms of speech are explained (along with their polite equivilant) which I loved, because unfortunatley in classes and textbooks, they concentrate almost soley on polite speech and no informal contexts. So you wont be suprised to find out the Japanese person you are talking to isn't talking like a textbook.
This book uses kanji/furigana/katakana along with romanji and then translated into english, so if you havent memorized your 3 alpahbets yet (especially the motherlode, kanji), dont fret. I wouldnt recommend this book to fresh beginners, I think to have some understanding of it you need to have at least some basic Japanese (few months or so). I gave it 4 out of 5 because I think this book is lacking without some kind of workbook to go along with it. With a workbook, this book could probably replace alot of textbooks.
43 of 48 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Fun and easy and useful,
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This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
At last, the melding of two of Japan's greatest exports: manga and the study of the Japanese language. Not exactly at last-others have trod this path before, notably the magazine Mangajin-but in book form Japanese the Manga Way is setting a precedent.
Author Wayne Lammers grew up in Japan and has written a "real manga, real Japanese" text and study aid that will benefit the many students struggling with nihongo. The text begins with basic pronunciation and works its way onwards and upwards, throughout supplemented with topical and humorous selections from Japanese graphic novels and comics. Even for someone who has spent the better part of ten years studying Japanese, the format in which the material is presented in Japanese the Manga Way is refreshing and easy to understand. Lammers does an excellent job in explaining the use of Japanese particles, the bane of many a student. Another section that merits mention is that on giving and receiving-so crucial to life in Japan-that suddenly set off a lightbulb in this reviewer's often dim brain. Highly recommended for both beginners and even those with a lot of classroom time under their belts.
16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Splendid textbook if you want to read japanese,
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This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
This is quite possibly the best language textbook I've encountered so far. Language textbooks use to have this little problem: they are quite boring. Mr. Smith at the airport; Mr. Smith at a restaurant; Mr. Smith shopping. Not this one: Japanese the Manga Way is fun to read. Who would've thought that language textbooks could be fun?
Its format is quite unique: there aren't long grammatical explanations, and almost all the examples are taken from manga. A lesson begins with some explanation, then a panel from some manga, followed by its translation and notes explaining new or unusual grammatical constructs found in it. Other books use manga panels as examples, so what's new here? Two things: first, the author explains the context in the story for every panel, so that the reader can follow the chain of events and understand what the characters are saying; and second, the book is organized so that examples only rarely use language constructs that weren't explained yet. Furthermore, there are a lot more examples than in similar books, as the whole exposition is guided by them. This is all very good and dandy, especially if you want to learn to read manga, but it's important to be aware that the book is "an illustrated guide to grammar and structure" as it says on the title, so it's not a complete japanese course. It doesn't present any method to help learning the japanese writing system (kana or kanji), only kana charts at the beginning. Also, it obviously won't help with the spoken language. But within its own objectives, it's a very good book. A basic japanese course for self-study could be organized like this: first, learn kana & kanji; my recommendations are Heisig's books Remembering the Kana: The Hiragana / The Katakana and Remembering the Kanji: A Complete Course on How Not to Forget the Meaning and Writing of Japanese Characters. Then read this book to get a general feeling for the language; you won't of course be able to memorize all the details given in the notes, but you should get an idea how the language works. You should get a good dictionary too. Then the real learning begins with practice: read lots of manga, watch anime and movies (or TV), listen to japanese music, immerse yourself in the language and culture. And keep Lammers' book nearby; as you read manga you'll encounter many constructs covered in the book, so you can get back there and re-read the notes. With practice, it all gets internalized in your language skills. And forget about other japanese books that teach through manga: I have the Japanese in Mangaland series, and while it's not that bad, it's not nearly as good as this one. I wish there were more language textbooks like this one, for other languages besides japanese.
10 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A good companion.,
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This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
This is not a textbook. It is not a phrase book. This book alone cannot teach you Japanese...
... but I think this book is an excellent companion to go along with a Japanese class or textbook self study. It provides a light and easy to read introduction to Japanese grammar. It is a good source of examples for various grammar points, and it also has a good mixture of textbook and colloquial language. Also, these examples are usually presented inside of narrative context, so you can easily figure out how each grammar point is used. It also doubles as a makeshift grammar dictionary. Whenever I come across some grammar point or verb form (or something) I don't understand, or want to clarify, I look it up in the index and read about it. I've read it cover to cover about four times, and each time I pick up loads of new things, or further cement the things I've learned elsewhere. I think it's definitely worth a look.
10 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The best Japanese resouce I've seen.,
This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
I own a fair number of Japanese teaching books, but Japanese the Manga Way is easily the best of the bunch. It covers pretty much all of the grammar that you need to know in a format that doesn't get overly analytical. It does not, however, cover the kana and kanji except in passing, so you'll still need to pick up other books for that. Also, thanks to its well formatted index, I can easily use for a reference guide, unlike many books where you have to remember what chapter talked about such-and-such verb ending. And unlike the Japanese in Mangaland series (which uses its own manga), this book uses actual manga series from Japan, a nice touch. Don't expect these manga to be like the fantasy manga we get imported though; these tend to deal with normal, Japanese, daily life. Highly recommended for the beginner that's had about a month's worth of practice.
10 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Surprisingly good.,
This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
I bought this more out of curiosity more than anything- and frankly did not expect much of it. I was very pleasantly surprised.
The coverage of grammer is really quite impressive- it was clearly heavily influenced by Jorden's thoughts on Japanese grammer. The treatment of grammer is, to a large extent, significantly simplified version of Jorden's treatment- but it is not overly dumbed down. One of the other great things about it is that all the examples are of very natural, mostly conversational Japanese. Consequently you are faced right from the start with one verb sentences (no needless wa or ga's here) where the context makes plain the meaning of each utterance. Finding natural Japanese in manga isn't as easy as you might think, so this is a very helpful contribution. You wouldn't want to use this as your only source of instruction- there are not enough examples for each grammatical point nor is there any sound media with the book- but it would make an excellent back-up text to supplement your main one.
29 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
A useful and fun learning resource, but...,
This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
With "Japanese the Manga Way," Lammers continues the Mangajin-style method of introducing a manga selection, analyzing the individual elements of all sentences appearing in that selection, and then providing a final translation for each line of dialogue. It's a great and engaging system and a good way to learn the mechanics of the language ... so why am I only giving it two stars? Because when you read "Japanese the Manga Way," two things are going to stick with you -- the grammatical explanations and the final translations ... and while Lammers excels at the grammatical explanations, his final translations are far too analytical, often falling short of the feel of the original Japanese. Translating Japanese "kotoba-doori," the words as they are, is easy -- the real trick comes in taking those words and converting them into English that keeps their feeling and original intention intact.
Studying Japanese through this book is a good way to teach yourself about the structure of the language, but if you internalize the finished translations as accurate representations of the Japanese, you'll have to do some serious unlearning further down the line as you continue your language studies. I say this with 16 years experience with the language and as a former Mangajin reader. Again, this book definitely has its good points, so I'm not trying to dissuade the casual learner from purchasing it ... but that being said, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out what I thought was its most serious shortcoming.
13 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
My e-mail to the company published says it all.,
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This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
"Please, if possible, inform Wayne P. Lammers that his book "Japanese The Manga Way" is ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. With no exaggeration whatsoever, it's easily the best practical language book I've seen in my life (and I've seen a lot). I'd go on to say that it's even a model case for instructional books on ANY subject. He is extremely thorough, leaves NOTHING to confusion, no questions unanswered, and manages to convey the real meat of the subject concisely, rapidly, and very effectively. The entire presentation is virtually flawless (the only criticism I have is the cover/back cover design, which I think is pretty awful, but obviously not his fault; I know that authors rarely have control over cover design).
This guy is a brilliant technical writer! Justin" (And the fact that someone as lazy as me BOTHERED to write to the published speaks volumes more... ;)
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Surprisingly Informative Book,
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This review is from: Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure (Paperback)
Since there weren't any actual reviews of this book, I thought I'd contribute one. First, I'm a long-time student of Japanese, having studied to some degree of seriousness, for 15 years. I have enough grammar,vocabulary and text books for any three people.
Having said that, this book actually stands out in some ways from all the rest. At first it seems like many other solid grammar books, covering things like how to express: "If/when," "should/must do," etc etc. but what sets this apart from all those other books is it is focused on CONVERSATIONAL Japanese. If you are new to Japanese, let me save you a LOT of time and heartache by telling you that the Japanese you learn in books is rarely how it is actually spoken in casual conversation. Don't let the fact that this is a manga-type book fool you. The information here is very relevant and very accurate. Speaking the kind of Japanese in your textbooks is perfectly fine, and your Japanese friends will understand you. But if you want to understand THEM, you'll need this kind of information. You won't be disappointed. Highly recommended. |
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