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John Patrick's Advanced Craps

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Personally, I read the special 600pp edition of this book, available through the publisher, but I imagine this one is similar, and that the extended version is just that, extended. This is a great book because it stresses the most important factor in gambling, money management. There is no way, no matter what anyone says, no matter which system you play, to gain an edge on the house in craps. The best you can achieve is close to but not exactly 50-50. This book is the best I have read, in terms of money management. Some people may not like to hear the reality of gambling(IT WILL NOT MAKE YOU RICH! )but John Patrick's book is exactly that, REALITY! If you want a get rich quick scheme, don't buy ANY gambling books! If you want to minimize your losses and maybe come home a small winner, then this is a great book for you. What I like about John Patrick is that he doesn't preach a system, he simply gives you ideas, and states that any systems or variation is fine, as long as you know how to manage your money. This book is great for those who want to know about the reality of gambling. By far the best book on craps I have ever read!

The best chance you'll have at winning in craps is to follow Patrick's advice. It takes discipline to win, something all professionals possess. If you're a novice at Craps, buy his first book on the Basic Strategies. Don't start with his advanced book--he'll be speaking over your head. Both books give you strategies to play by--pick one that suits your style...and follow his advice and then you might have a chance--a good chance of winning.

This book is the first of two steps in learning money management. The book super craps completes the course started by John Patrick on money management, which is what gambling is. Managing your money when in the casino. I took the time to learn everything I could with this book before going to the casino and gambling at the craps table. It took me five years to fully understand his approach. It is conservative, but very effective in putting strings of small consistent wins togeather. Im now a winner at craps. Thank you John. It was worth the effort.

It takes several months to read this book completely. This book does not drive you to go to casinos. However, the author emphasizes that money management is more important than knowing the rules of craps. John Patrick argues to the reader to have the feelings of "Bank Roll" and "Charting the table". Yes, that was really important lesson that I have learned from him. I recommend to buy this book if you want see it how the craps professional manages his winning! Thank you for reading my comments. From, wyse at Seoul, Korea.

Like another reviewer, I never knew SQUAT about the table when first encountering John Patrick's INCREASED GENIUS concerning this wonderful game. His style of "telling it EXACTLY like it is" upsets MANY who feel they have "just arrived" and Vegas had better watch out for their expertise. However, HIS is, by far, the more realistic. In observing the BEGINNERS at a CRAPS table, I see them, constantly, betting the Pass line REGARDLESS of the trend of the table to "seven out" every other toss of the dice - John comments on these "dorks" and it upsets them. They, then, try to transfer THEIR lack of expertise at the table to his blame with such inane comments as "That must be why he writes books - in order to compensate for his losses". In California casinos, the math, apparently, isn't the same as covered in this SUPERB instructional book; because some actually believe [because they know no better] and comment that the Come bet is so much better than the Place bet. Just a simple point that John brings out [and backs up] is that the Come bettor must receive the "6" for example, TWICE before he collects a cent. The Place bettor needs that 6 to hit, only, once. Any mention of 6/5 [come] opposed to 7/6 [place] doesn't build your winnings as much as listening to the advice in this book and it is grossly faulty in its math. First, for every Come bet, as soon as the 6 would hit, you'd be paid [one-to-one for the basic bet and true odds ONLY on the odds you've taken] and you'd have to go through the Come again to get back to that 6 - meaning two more times a 6 hits for you to collect ANYTHING. Yet, the Place bet just sits there collecting each time that the "Come bettors" are playing around with that Come space. Such faulty advice as the "6/5 as opposed to 7/6", simply, isn't the way it happens and John Patrick brings out all of these excellent points. It is money WELL spent to buy this book; but, is money much BETTER won when this book is read and its advice is followed!!!

I knew nothing about craps before I read this book and viewed the videos by Patrick. I wanted to play craps but was too intimidated to try to learn in the casino. I now know that at the table training would have been a costly mistake.I felt confident in my first craps game after reading the book and even got compliments from a dealer on the discipline I showed. John gives a realistic vision of what to expect and how to handle your money whether you win or lose.

This book covers A LOT of possible bets and angles for making money on the craps table. It's an excellent continuation on the first craps book by Patrick. It covers money management in much greater detail than the first book, so I liked that.

Unless you are a seasoned craps player, start with his first book. I went from knowing relatively nothing about the game (despite playing it for a while now) to finding just one of his ideas that I have managed to turn into a consistent overall money maker on this game.

Some people say he ignores the math behind the game. Well, that's partially true. He tells you about the numbers, so he's not really ignoring them. He just isn't afraid to suggest deviating from a .1% difference in odds if it will save you from a possible significant negative fluctuation in your bankroll. It's a conservative approach he recommends. He addresses this topic pretty directly in the book much better than I am doing here. I came away thinking that if you have a sufficient bankroll, it's obviously not so terrible to play the numbers. But if you are playing short at all (and he knows most people who read his books will be playing short despite his numerous warnings not to do so) his deviations from those numbers are there to keep you at the table with money to stay in the game.

My basic point about this book is that it covered some ideas on the table I never would have thought of in a long long time. And it contained one system I like that I can't seem to lose with yet. Rating gambling books on amazon is easier than most books. If the book contains information that wins me more than the book cost, I am clearly a better player for having read it.

Patrick's math is bad--I'm a math teacher, so I know whereof I speak. The book, however, is his best--a must for any novice gambler. Before reading it and following his advice, I was a $200 per month loser. Since then, I've won $600 in one and one-half years. You might not like his ideas, but you must be crazy not to follow his lead on establishing narrow win goals and ABSOLUTE loss limits. My sessions have not been as "exciting" for me since--but I have no regrets. Buy the book, read the book, follow his advice!

This book is very well written, concise, and very pratical in language. I suggest reading the Beginner's Guide to Craps (John Patrick) before reading this one. This book assumes you already know basic craps strategy. Mr. Patrick covers ALL aspects of gambling, not only how to hold down your losses, but even more importantly, how to manage yourself when winning. EXCELLENT BOOK!!!

I have read other books on craps and most of them spout the same methods. Patrick tells you other ways of betting while attempting to reduce your overall cash risk. <BR>It is written in a humorous manner.<BR> His mathematics are a little off but his ideas on how to play the game are good.<BR>I highly recommend this book