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Initial post: Apr 6, 2009 10:57:29 AM PDT
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Posted on Apr 6, 2009 11:13:37 AM PDT
J. Hern says:
No, that other person is right, she's no longer human. Oh, and if you won't watch the end of the movie because of your misunderstanding of what you saw, then the problem is you, and not the movie.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 6, 2009 11:23:30 AM PDT
In the novel Eli is a boy / He was castrated ( HE is missing everything down there and I mean everything. in the film you see a scar that hint at this but in the novel He has no scars.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 6, 2009 11:25:05 AM PDT
In the novel Eli is a boy / He was castrated ( HE is missing everything down there and I mean everything. in the film you see a scar that hint at this but in the novel He has no scars.

Posted on Apr 6, 2009 11:31:49 AM PDT
Stephanie says:
Thank you, Joel, for your response. I feel much better!

And J. Hern, just because I turn off a movie doesn't mean I have a "problem." No one is obligated to sit through an entire movie, book, series or anything else that they aren't enjoying. If the possiblity that there was child pornography in the movie upset me to the point that I had to turn it off, then it's a problem I'm happy to have. That was my whole point in asking, to see if I should have been so upset.

Posted on Apr 7, 2009 9:44:43 AM PDT
CONTAINS SPOILERS:

Just so you're aware, child pornography is no more legal in Sweden than it is in the United States. You will note that this movie got a nationwide theatrical release, with a R rating, and it played in mainstream theatres. As far as I'm aware, there was no controversy over any perceived pornographic content, as by the time that scene appears in the film, it's been so heavily contextualized as to render it non-pornographic. Eli has been established as something other than human, something other than a girl, and certainly much older than Eli appears.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 7, 2009 10:44:42 AM PDT
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Stephanie says:
Hmm, but remember "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields? She was about twelve and naked. I remember seeing Susan Sarandon, who also starred in the film, on TV defending the nudity as being important to the story, and it really lowered my opinion of Susan Sarandon. I thought (hoped) that this movie just used a body double or something, but I'm very happy to learn I had nothing to worry about. I'm a mom, so I'm no doubt extra sensitive to things like that. Ah well, other than a couple of the gory scenes, I didn't think it was that fantastic. I understand why a lot of people liked it so much, though; it certainly had a lot of atmosphere.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who cleared this up for me.

Posted on Apr 7, 2009 1:43:09 PM PDT
I'm a father, so I'm sure I'm no less sensitive to those issues. That said, I don't think all nudity is pornographic. There's a good amount of nudity in Walkabout, but I can't imagine anyone interpreting it as being somehow pornographic. The shot in Let The Right One In involved a make up effect, so I'm sure you were either looking at a body double, or, more likely, a dummy.

Posted on Apr 8, 2009 3:42:00 AM PDT
Loren Amsden says:
Nudity? Pornographic? Is God a pornographer that he creates us all naked, and children? Sorry you couldn't get through the film, Stevie -- it was very original and brilliantly made. One of the points of brilliance was the way it trusted its audience to make their own decisions regarding the content, and obviously we all did that.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2009 8:11:56 AM PDT
Stephanie says:
No, no, no, no, I'm not THAT much of a prude! It's merely when it involves children that it creates an overwhelming icky feeling. Child actors don't have a lot of control over their careers, and I doubt any twelve-year-old would be comfortable taking off their clothes in front of others. Would you have been comfortable doing that at that age? I have no problem whatsoever with nudity with adults. But a close-up view of a twelve-year-old girl's private parts? I PERSONALLY don't see how that could be at all okay. BUT since I know that's not what I saw (hey, it was a quick shot, and it's not like I was going to pause something I found so shocking), it's all fine now, thanks. It's not like I was lecturing others not to watch it, or writing a negative review.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2009 7:16:55 PM PDT
Dean says:
Hello Stevie, first off that close up shot of the girl wasn't actually her, it was a stand in. Also it was shown to make refrence to the fact that ''she'' was actually a he. In the book Eli was castrated centuries before by a sadistic vampire. You really should give the rest of the movie a chance. It's a beautiful story.

P.S. please exuse my spelling. Dean

Posted on Apr 9, 2009 8:48:41 AM PDT
ladywick says:
Im glad to read that some of us are concerned abt the possible nudity of a child in a film whether it was misunderstood or not,the fact that we have the mindset to have an intelligent discussion abt issues involving children makes me proud stevie had an appropriate concern and those concerns were addressed and brought her clarification about the film ..I have'nt seen it but after reading this discussion I will , knowing that the scene in question does not include the exploitation of a child. I applaud all who took time to reply

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2009 7:47:33 AM PDT
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Nanook says:
AHA ...so BLOODY vampires are OK but a naked kid horrified you!? you people are completely insane IMHO>
porno means explicit sexual intercourse you retard! where is this world coming too ...
I remember another B horror movie on TV in which they showed a women whose bowels were ripped open by an Alien like monster. the gore was shown in full view but the nipples were blurred ... no comment.
showing every day scenes from Iraq, brains blown off ... it's OK ...but a women's breast or a kid's naked bottom is horrifying - if you automatically thought of sex seeing that kid then something is wrong with you!
remember the outrage regarding Janet Jackson? more and more people are sexually frustrated especially here in the US and that generates a lot of screwballs ...stop watching horror movies and go get laid! ... it's a lot more fun, believe me :)

Posted on Apr 18, 2009 1:33:36 PM PDT
MDF says:
This discussion DOES . It seemsraise an important issue, but some of the posters here seem to have missed it and gone on the attack. The real issue is whether Lina Leandersson was photographed in the nude for this role. It seems obvious to me that the answer is no, but if someone was under the impression that they filmed a young girl naked (even with the makeup effects), then they would be justified in thinking that the filmmakers crossed a line. (Personally I think that Anne Geddes comes MUCH closer to kiddie porn than this film.)

Stevie, if you want more legitimate responses and less hate, then watch you Subject. "Kiddie Porn" may grab people's attention, but not in a positive way.

This film was magnificent in the theaters, but DO NOT BUY THIS DVD or blu-ray. Instead of the wonderful literal translations of the Swedish dialog from the theatrical version (I read a blog post online where the poster had simply input the Swedish dialog into Google Translator and the translations that he got captured the essense of the film far better than those we are paying $20-25 for, for reasons beyond imagination Magnolia released this film with butchered subtitles, and I mean savagely butchered. The dubbed version on the disk uses the theatrical dialog. The subtitled version slashes scenes with 6-8 lines of dialog to 4-5 WORDS. It is nonsensical, baffling and rage-inducing. Magnolia has promised to release a new DVD/overrated sony player version soon, but will not exchange the coaster versions for the proper version. I have written to every major DVD retailer asking them to demand that Magnolia replace their stock of coasters with copies of Let The Right In. I would ask any fan of this film (or of film in general) to join me and do the same. This movie was one of the best reviewed films of 2008 and I was eagerly anticipating the DVD to share my experience with friends and family. A month later, I am still waiting. Even if Magnolia releases a proper version, we won't be able to buy it if retailers don't buy the proper version because they have coaster versions on their shelves not selling.

Posted on Apr 26, 2009 1:44:05 AM PDT
Get a clue. Pornography is sexual exploitation...this is a piece of art. There is a difference. Geez. I get so tired of ignorance...

Posted on Apr 28, 2009 8:08:12 PM PDT
"...Anne Geddes comes MUCH closer to kiddie porn than this film..."

WTF? Are you kidding? That might be THE MOST ridiculous statement in this entire thread.

That said, there was nothing offensive or remotely inappropriate about this film. I enjoyed every single minute of it.

Posted on May 13, 2009 8:14:26 PM PDT
F. Lynch says:
Unfortunately, I was exposed to real child pornography as a former investigator for the USPS. Believe me, once you've seen the real thing, it seems silly to call this pornographic in any fashion. I saw the movie after reading this discussion thread, and folks, this ain't child porn- end of story.

Posted on Jun 1, 2009 4:09:07 PM PDT
Porn means an actual sexual act not just a naked body!!! It's hypocritical to call a naked child in film kiddie porn because if it is then almost every parent in America is guilty on child porn charages, If they ever took a picture or home video of their child as a baby during the first bath or when doing something silly but just happened to be naked.

Posted on Jun 22, 2009 5:27:00 PM PDT
I've read that the shot in question was created with a prosthetic dummy. So it's not a naked child on screen. It's a fabricated doll created to represent a castrated 200 year-old vampire. That doesn't sound like any pornography I've ever heard of.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2009 5:52:17 PM PDT
Movie-Lover says:
Well, I myself felt a little unpleasent when that scene came (though it didn't stop me from finishing the movie). It just felt, well, unneccesary to say the least. I won't make a big fuss over it, but I must admit that I didn't agree to it very much. But I really liked this movie, and will definitely buy it (when or if the subtitles are ever corrected).

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 12:57:05 AM PDT
that pretty much sums it up. Well, i think the expression is "What is this world coming to", not "Where...". Other than that, I agree.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 12:59:01 AM PDT
"Pornography" can be defined as whetever gives a sexually frustrated censor an erection.

Posted on Jul 27, 2009 9:28:14 PM PDT
Ivan says:
Once again, once again, when a film even hints at anything remotely sexual the entire amecian moralistic (pent up repressed feeling) surface and fill entire web pages.
Can us normla people stop responding to those who clearly have personal issues and hang-ups, and get back to the film.
That 'Steve' above feel 'sick at seeing a naked child?
...we are dealing with north american moral/mental sickness here, not the film.

Posted on Aug 11, 2009 2:46:25 PM PDT
C.Cordero says:
Irrespectively of the scene being pornographic or not (which I believe was not) I do believe it was unnecessary given that Eli's history is completely deleted from the movie. Thus, I do not think the scene added anything to the movie's storyline in any way.
@ Joel - I do believe the book mentions Eli has a very light scar barely visible, at least I didn't expected it to be as noticeable as shown in the movie.

Posted on Aug 18, 2009 2:19:59 PM PDT
It's funny because some things are put onto movie and television screens to test out how the world will react to certain things. Even if it was a dummy and it was naked they will take it to the next level in the future because many were not bothered by it. Now for those of you that were bothered by it keep voicing your opinion so that it does not go to the next level.

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