King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band: The Complete Set [Import]

King Oliver | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (May 27, 1997)
• Number of Discs: 2
• Format: Import
• Label: Challenge
• ASIN: B000005R5L
• In-Print Editions: MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (13 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #111,140 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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64 of 67 people found the following review helpful:

3.0 out of 5 stars The best collection so far BUT....., April 8, 2005

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Ted Ison (East Coast USA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band: The Complete Set (Audio CD)

Before this release, we were stuck with the Milestone reissue on CD, which is left over from the early days of digital remastering. The noise is gone, but so is half of the music. Not good. Luckily, this collection came out a few years later. Certainly better than the Milestones, but still not a satisfying collection. This 2 disc set of all of the Oliver sides (including the extremely rare Autograph sessions with Jelly Roll Morton AND the one-of-a-kind "Zulus Ball" on Gennett) is a very exciting collection to own if you are interested in "having" them all. For listening pleasure, however, the set is rather inconsistent in its sound quality and in some cases difficult to listen to. I am a fan of the work of Mr. Davies (the mastering engineer) but in this case I think he missed the boat. The EQ is overly boosted in the bottom end, causing lots of unnatural resonances. Meanwhile, the high midrange (where the cornets are) is also overly boosted and sounds tinny, especially in my car. I've heard a few of these originals coming straight off of 78 RPM, and they sound nothing like this set. In the attempt to emphasize various sections of the band, I think overall clarity has been sacrificed. Volume from song to song also varies.

The whole project is put together rather sloppily as well. The track listing doesn't allow for the fact that this is a 2 CD set; Disc 2 starts with "track 21.." ??Even the discographical information is hard to comprehend; to find personnel on any given song, you have to go back to the first session and add and subtract members through each subsequent session.

My favorite reissue (if you can find it) is still the 1974 Herwin LP with all of the Gennett sides "untouched". An A-B comparison between the Herwin and Retrieval versions of the Gennett sides shows an instant and remarkable difference.

I hope one day someone will put out a complete set of the Creole Jazz Band sides with natural sounding transfers. I'd welcome a little noise if it would allow the glory of these recordings to be heard more fully.

UPDATE!! Since I posted this review, such a set has been released! King Oliver Off The Record: The Complete 1923 Jazz Band Recordings (Archeophone/Off The Record)is a tremendous improvement. It doesn't include the Morton Autographs; but I'm not sure they belong with the CJB sides anyway. Now I'm happy!

19 of 19 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars The best of the best!, December 6, 2001

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"wtb4" (walnut Creek, CA United States) - See all my reviews

This review is from: King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band: The Complete Set (Audio CD)

This reissue of the classic recordings of King Oliver's group sounds great compared to other versions that have come out over the years. John R. T. Davies has restored many classic recordings over the years, but I believe that his work with these famous Oliver records is his crowning achievement. There is another excellent reissue to consider: Robert Parker's double-CD issue which Amazon lists as "1923 - 1930 Great Original Performances". The audio restoration on Parker's reissue is also outstanding, but it only includes a handful (nine?) of the classic 1922 sessions with Armstrong. In contrast, the Davies collection includes the complete 1923 sessions over 2 CD's. I happen to think that when music is this great, you'll want to hear all of it - a sampling just won't suffice. The limitations of these performances have been noted over the years (e.g., the trombonist's playing is rather rough-hewn). But these performers, always playing with great poise and restraint, achieved a tremendous sense of dignity in their ensemble playing. And the cornet solos (by Oliver and Louis Armstrong) and especially the interplay between these two horn players make for some of the best listening in all of recorded music. Not all of the tracks rise to the level of great songs like Mabel's Dream and Dippermouth Blues, but everything on these discs is well worth hearing, and treasuring. Along with the newly-reissed Complete Set of the New Orleans Rhythm Kings, this King Oliver issue is the only truly essential jazz prior to 1925.

15 of 16 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Great sound from the early edge of Jazz, January 21, 2001

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This review is from: King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band: The Complete Set (Audio CD)

This 2-CD set is a revelation. This is the best release I have heard of King Oliver's first recordings. It documents the beginning of King Oliver's and Louis Armstrongs recording careers. Covering the years 1923-1924, comes just 6 years after the very first jazz recordings ever made---you are travelling here to the very roots of Jazz. The sound on these CDs is remarkably vibrant and clear---the best treatment I have heard of any acoustically recorded music. Comparison with the other CD releases of the same King Oliver recordings reveals its superiority (although RealAudio compression muffles and distorts the sound, differences can be distinguished). The stunning thing in these recordings is the emotional and rhythmic intensity achieved by King Oliver's band. Canal Street Blues and Dippermouth Blues have a cathartic energy that I don't hear in other bands again until the advent of the Beatles and the Grateful Dead---it's King Oliver's on-the-edge soulfulness, something that is more than just the individual arrangements, musicians, and style of the time. And, man, King Oliver gets down! This music is funk. It's a far cry from the comic style that people associate with Dixieland. His later electric recordings show his funky vibe even more (the great sounding "Sugar Foot Stomp: King Oliver and His Dixie Syncopators" [Decca Jazz #616] is regrettably out of print).