Kings & Thieves
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Kings & Thieves is the third release in a row where Geoff's vocal performance is the weakest link. From American Soldier, to Dedicated to Chaos and now Kings & Thieves, the pattern is Tate's declining ability as a singer, even when presented with musical ideas that fit his more non-metal preferences.
He's found this fascination with speaking lyrics instead of singing, which in small doses is fine. But this record continues the trend even more. And when Tate does attempt to sing and hit a note, its often flat and strained -- showing the dramatic loss of range and control that he used to be revered for.
There shouldn't have been any excuses on this record for Tate. He paired himself up with long-time friends and former MYTH bandmates Kelly Gray and Randy Gane -- a writing team very loyal to him that's he's comfortable with. Perhaps that backfired...maybe those he trusts didn't have the guts to stand up and say "Geoff, you need to do better than this."
From a lyrical and melody perspective, Kings & Thieves is quite possibly the worst Geoff Tate has ever done. Sexually suggestive lyrics are ok in certain instances, but "Say U Love It" is downright atrocious. You're what, 53, Geoff? This is what you're going to sing about? Really?
Sadly, while the lyrics are terrible for a lot of this record, the vocal melodies are just as bad.Read more ›
I enjoyed Geoff's first solo album in 2002, especially because it varied its music styles to include R & B, electronics, and an overall softer tone compared what he had previously done in Queensryche. To my surprise, this new solo album "Kings & Thieves" is much heavier and guitar-rock driven than I had expected. I will admit that I preferred his first solo album to some of the recent Queensryche releases because he explored other soundscapes and musical arrangements than that of basic mid-tempo guitar rock. Because of the expectations set by his first solo album I'm slightly feeling let down by his second solo record.
The best way that I can describe this album is is that its a continuation of the production and style found on Queensryche's 1999 album, Q2K. The songs on "Kings & Thieves" are very similar in structure and have Kelly Gray's fingerprints all over it. Kelly Gray was my least favorite Queensryche guitarist and I was not overly fond of the guitar sound and overall song quality on Q2K (and also the tour that followed), and this new Geoff Tate album sounds like a complete contiuation of that songwriting style. After hearing the album I wasn't surprised to look at the linear notes and see that Kelly Gray had mixing credit and songwriting credit on all but 2 of the songs.Read more ›
The lyrical content of this record is atrocious and platitudinous, Geoff's voice is very tired, and the music is terribly bland. Gag-worthy cuts like "Say U Luv It", "In The Dirt", and "The Way I Roll" are nothing short of a disgrace to Geoff Tate's legacy, and an insult to most people's intelligence. Cringe-worthy and painfully idiotic lyrics like "She's got moves like I've never seen, rides me hard like an exercise machine" are sad reminders of where Geoff Tate is creatively. This is album is self-indulgent, contrived, and about as meaningful as the average pop record.
The music sounds like the same monotony from Dedicated to Chaos, but with a little more life. There are very brief flashes of brilliance, but it feels as if the musicians are holding something back. This album had good intentions, but absolutely abysmal execution.
If you loved Dedicated to Chaos or Q2k, you'd probably get a kick out of this record. If you liked Geoff's previous solo effort-- or anything else he as ever done-- I'd stand clear of this one.
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If you are tired of the way all the Queensryche albums in the 2000s sound, that's on this CD because his buddy from Third Eye Blind, Jason Slater, is writing the same, tired music... Read morePublished 4 months ago by Stephen Johansson
Seriously,its very difficult to release something that bad,I love Tate's first solo album,really unique record and Tate back then was still a singer,a really good singer,not like... Read morePublished 4 months ago by Jim Kyr
This record is FANTASTIC, it is a departure (thank god) from that tired Queensryche sound. It is refreshing to hear Geoff Tate do what he does best, creating works of art without... Read morePublished 4 months ago by Rage For Order
I previewed this on YouTube before purchasing and I liked the "Say U Luv It" better on the live version as there was some additional effects (guitar?)... Read morePublished 15 months ago by Sherri English
Greatest thing Geoff's ever done? No. But still interesting and worth a listen. There are several good tracks; I think most people are just disappointed that they're not GREAT... Read morePublished 17 months ago by dragonflame11
It's a complete embarassment that the man who sang on (and helped write) such classics as Rage for Order, Operation Mindcrime, and Empire is responsible for this steaming pile of... Read morePublished 19 months ago by S. Craig Caldwell
I was forced to give 1 star to write a review. I grew up on Queensryche. Geoff Tate along with Rob Halford and Dio were the cream of the rock/metal crop. Read morePublished 20 months ago by Neil S. Lenet
Great Product, great pricing. Got what I expected and when I expected. Don't wait another minute...buy today! What are you waiting for!