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Knight Hunters - Complete Collection

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I don't know where all those reviewers have been coming up with the notion that Cheesiness, Angst, & Extreme High Melodrama are *surprising*-- or *unwanted*-- in a shojo anime. Come on! Really. This is for us. We want our angst and family tragedies and long-lost siblings and haunted pasts and Good Vs. Evil and unrequited love and knee-weakeningly beautiful boys... we want it all, and we want it bloody.

That said, the Weiss Kreuz collection is one of the best things that you could possibly take home & watch on the sofa with your box of chocolates & your pink tissues. Four pretty young things, each one with a worse revenge-complex than the next, all with clashing personalities; an expansion on the buddy-cop concept, only better... four pretty young vicious bloodthirsty international assassin boys who run a flower-shop. And of course they're all straight. If you don't love an idea like that right away, then you shouldn't be renting this in the first place. But if you have to keep hitting Rewind because you drown out the dialogue with your own squeals, then you're one of us, and you should buy this DVD set.

The DVD edition is fabulous, easy to navigate, crammed with features, sketches, interviews, you name it. I was especially (pleasantly) surprised by the outtakes. Recording all that drama had to be taxing-- so it must've been a great release to make that mutant-monster croon "Till There Was You" at Aya while smashing him repeatedly against a piano.

I personally like the animation well enough; it's not groundbreaking, but it does not look like 1987, either. The dubs and subs are equally good here, in my opinion. They put a nice amount of effort into the setup. I think the English translation was pretty great, very natural-sounding; people's opinions on these tend to run hot & cold, but I can say that at least the English doesn't sound stilted, and the subtitles at least follow pretty much what the dub says. Bold yellow subtitles were easy to read, for when you're in the mood to follow in Japanese for awhile.

The voice actors were often lackluster, I agree with everyone on that point. I privately think Aya could be even b*tchier, Omi even squeakier, and Farfarello even crazier... in both languages. Schuldig's erotically snide baritone is definitely the brightest point of the English dub, however. You may find yourself listening to him purr "ruined lives taste like honey" repeatedly until your Rewind button sticks.

You can watch many of these stories independently of each other without worrying about the overarching plot, which is nice for those who don't want the full collection. The boys get a mission, they go out and find the bad guys, and much fighting & bickering ensues. Most episodes have at least some brokenhearted weeping, and they all have bloodshed (although the pedestrian fight-sequence style in this anime doesn't do much for me). If you're lucky, you'll get to see the gang of psychic/psychotic villain boys, who are even more interesting than the heroes. You can start watching to just absorb the cheesy missions, but soon be hooked on the tangled interpersonal relationships and vendettas. Which is, after all, the point in a bishonen anime. So addictive!

The idea of Weiss Kreuz is rather better than its execution. The series doesn't make the most of its material, either in plot or in character development, and between that and the distinctly lackluster animation it gives the impression of not quite living up to its potential.

That said, it's still worth watching, and I give it four stars for a good try and a great idea. Although they could have been explored more fully, the characters are intriguing, in part because although they are assassins who hunt and kill evildoers, they do not consider themselves particularly righteous men - they call themselves a necessary evil and expect to be held accountable for the lives they've taken. Each of the four main characters has his own reason for being in Weiss; each one suffers over the course of the series, and each one at least considers the possibility of quitting and has to choose whether or not to stay.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it... doesn't quite. Yoji's first spotlight episode leaves one with the impression that he's not nearly as competent as the Weiss boys are supposed to be - but in a much later episode, he dishes up one of the most gutwrenching moments of the series in his final encounter with villainess Neu. And any episode featuring Aya is bound to be fascinating.

Where the series fails to plumb the full depths of its main characters, it makes up for the lack by doing surprisingly well by its supporting characters. In particular, Weiss handlers Manx and Birman and the mysterious Persia acquit themselves better then you might expect from this kind of series.

With a few exceptions, Weiss always get their man - or woman - but the series largely refrains from being repetetive. Plot points crop up for a few episodes, subside, and then pop up again to be developed a little further. The series is also, as will be made clear by the opening of the first episode, not afraid to kill people. Sometimes the heroes arrive in time to save the day, but just as often they can only enact bloody vengeance after the damage has been done. Even supporting characters who've appeared in several previous episodes are not sacred.

The first season, aside from the episodes dealing directly with Schreient and their leader Masafumi Takatori, is mostly superior to the second; the Takatori clan makes for a more effective source of antagonists and evil plots than the second season's villain organization, which has a more supernatural bent.

The DVDs include outtakes from the English dubbing sessions. The dub itself is typically bad and should be skipped if possible, but the outtakes are hysterical and nearly worth the price of the collection on their own.

Then there's Gluhen. Weiss Kreuz: Gluhen is either the third season or the second series of Weiss Kreuz, depending on how you want to look at it. It isn't currently available in the US, but it looks as though it will be released starting in July as Knight Hunters: Eternity File. The animation is greatly improved from the original; however, because of legal issues, the designs of the four main characters were changed. Aya and Ken fared all right, but Yoji looks as though he had a fight with a weedwhacker and lost, and wears an awful hat to boot. Gluhen also introduces two new members of Weiss, who take up a lot of the focus of the series, to the point that Ken and Yoji don't even appear for about seven episodes.

The story is also improved - sort of. In the first two seasons, the main villains have various operations which Weiss foil, so there's something of a sense of progress and there are distinct character arcs. In Gluhen, there are simply events which occur and which Weiss must face, and which frequently pass without much resolution. It's a better depiction of the covert-ops sort of organization Weiss is supposed to be - in the earlier seasons, the team was usually just given a target and sent out to kill them, with the intelligence work already done - but can give viewers the impression that they're missing a big chunk of the story, particularly when the other two members of Weiss finally show up and are just finishing a related mission. The first two seasons sometimes seem a bit rushed - Gluhen is the opposite.

All told, Weiss Kreuz is worth watching. Don't go into it with high expectations; it's not perfect. But if you can accept it for what it is, it's solid entertainment.

While I would never claim to be an expert in the anime field, I have done some experimentation and found quite a few great items. Besides the dozens of classic films I have collected, I have also purchased and enjoyed several series including the macabre "Hellsing," the moody "Noir," the fast and funny "Cowboy Bebop"and my favorite--the sublime "Berserk." Having never heard of "Knight Hunters," I picked it up on the basis of its description. There seem to be a lot of people who have enjoyed this series, but for me, it lacked the sophistication and overall quality of the other programs that I have seen. That may be its intent--again I'm under no illusions as a true connoisseur--but its lack of artistry, over-the-top dramatics, and groan-worthy dubbed dialogue had me laughing more often than I would care to mention.

The setup of "Knight Hunters" is a good one. Four young men, working undercover in a flower shop by day, form a secret organization that hunts evil by night. Getting their secret assignments, they leap into action--each with a unique fighting style. The plot, for what it is, is serviceable. Some of the stand alone capers are effective, some are cheesy. But the series does manage to weave a fairly intricate plot with recurring villains with grand designs on conquering the world. Our heroes love and lose, get betrayed, uncover family secrets and go through some pretty interesting scenarios as the story progresses. For the most part, I enjoyed the primary story arc--and that is what saved this series from being a complete disaster.

For what I enjoyed in the plot development, however, I truly loathed most of the dialogue. I don't know if this is from the original series or if something was lost in translation--but I am commenting on the dubbed version available here. From the very beginning, as hordes of schoolgirls swarm the flower shop to ogle our hunky heroes, the dialogue is so preposterous and awkward. While fighting crime, things are fine--but when things slow down and we attempt character development, it can be almost painful. There are peculiar moments of exposition and strange romantic exchanges that sound bizarre, campy and infantile. The actors employed seem to be reading, not acting, and so the dramatics fall flat--and then in heightened moments, we swung into the realm of stilted overacting. It really, really detracts from what might have been a lot more involving.

I couldn't, ultimately, take "Knight Hunters" very seriously. But I'm not trying to detract anyone from checking this out. Maybe the subtitles would be better--but I still wouldn't rank this in the same league as the programs I mentioned in the first paragraph. I would recommend that you try to sample an episode, if possible, before making the financial commitment.

PS. Using the other shows I liked as a reference, if anyone wants to recommend another series, I'm all ears. KGHarris, 01/07.

Besides the non-direct translation of Weiß Kreuz (white cross) I totally recommend the DVDs. The storyline is angsty in some aspects and having mainly bishounen's as the main characters are a plus. 4 guys: Aya (Ran), Ken, Omi (Mamoru Takatori), and Yohji who work in a flower shop in the day and are assassins at night, each with a sad past and reason for being Weiß. Toss in their wicked rivals: Schwarz (male group of assasins with powers: Brad, Schuldig, Farfarello, and Nagi) and Shrient (group of female baddies:Hell, Schoen, Neu, and Tot) makes this anime a must watch.
Having watched the series before it's release on DVD in the US. And watching the U.S. DVDs myself, the translations and conversion is great. Now if only they brought over the OVAs and Glühen. The manga is also a must get, with details on how Aya joined the Weiß group.

I absolutly love this series, this is going on my wish list! A friend of mine got me started by lending me "dead ringer" and I became pretty obsessed with it. I must have watched it 100 times before giving it back. My dad doesn't like anime very much, but I even got my uber-religious mom into it. It's that good.

I watched all the Knight Hunters DVDs and yes while some were atrocious I was mesmerized. Like watching a train wreck but funnier. You have to take these guys for what they are cute and with a bad script. However Weiss Kreuz is a classic and for all its cheesiness I love it. Im still totally in love with little boy Omi and that squeak as he pretends not to understand sexual inuendo.

A great bonus is the reel of voice actors mistakes and deliberates flubs. They are hysterical! I was ROTFL

the preview i saw of it made you think of something different like they were a dark angel for justice when they are a group of guys trying to stop a crazy school that brain washes you to commit murder and get a low self asteem.

What is it about this series? Once you watch it you are hooked. People complain that the art is not great yet everyone that watches falls in love with the beautiful bishonen. Yes, the story seems far-fetched at times (the experiments performed--combining people with anilmals) and there seem to be some details that are not completely fleshed out...but we get just enough to let our minds fill in the rest. If you like angst (a young assassin finally finds a girl only to later discover she's his sister!) The four all have tragic pasts that are connected by one person: Takatori! Though the focus of much of the anime is on Aya's craving revenge for his family--watch it to see why he wants revenge--there is eventually a little light shed on the others. If you have the time you really should check this series out. If nothing else you will get to look at some really yummy guys.

Although the dubbing leaves something to be desired, the storyline of Weiss is extremely intriguing. There are a lot of loose ends that could be tied up, but the characters more than make up for it. The subbing is very well done, with only a few errors every now and then. The animation style, though it does not look as modern as some space or sci-fi anime, is very well done, especially for the characters themselves. If you like hot anime boys, this is the show for you. Also the interviews with the seiyuus, some of Japan's finest, are very amusing. Overall, an excellent anime with a great open ending for the Gluhen series as well as your own speculation.

Weiss Kruez, amusingly enough the title in english being Knight Hunters, is most likely one of the greatest animes from 1990s, coming from the era of hand-painted cels and made with not all the the great technology we enjoy today, I give the animation for Weiss Kruez a massive 9 or 10 out of 10 for the sheer beauty of its animation not being computer generated graphics. This is hand painted animation at its best. I've heard a few comments in the past, not all here on Amazon, about the animation not being the greatest and I felt there was a need to post a review defending that. Hand-painted animation and computer animation need to be considered in separate categories, not one lump, or you lose all sense of appreciation for either branch of animation.

Also I have heard that the plot for Weiss Kruez is not among the greatest, again, I sharply disagree. True, this is a shojo series and there are a few moments of sitting there doubting some of the plot devices, but to quote a article I read called "Synergy Between Sociopaths" Weiss Kruez was described as a confusing soap opera, and it fits that description very well. This is a drama series and its meant to be watched with a box of kleenexs and if you are a detail freak like I am, Weiss Kruez delivers on those little pieces of plot and subplot that keep your eyes and ears glued to the TV screen. There are many details to this series that require the viewer to watch and rewatch to catch all details and how they later crop up, such as Crawford's appearance during the Human Chess episode without the rest of Schwarz, even though his name is not given during the episode, his appearance marks another huge portion of the plot, Schwarz and their role in concerns to Takatori, Eszett and the Weiss boys. However, paying attention to all these details is what makes the series pure love, the more you watch it, the more you realize what you missed in your first sitting of it and the more you are drawn into the series. A series that cannot charm you again in the second sitting/viewing all over again, is not truly a anime. The animation is gorgeous, the plot is very well written, and whether you watch it in english or japanese, you will fall in love with the series again and again with its charm.