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Knight or Knave [School & Library Binding]

A. Norton (Author)
3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (7 customer reviews)


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May 2002
Times are changing in Rendelsham. The old King is dead, and the foolish Prince Florian has assumed the throne. Florian's mother, Queen Ysa of the House of Oak, still controls the land from behind the scences, but her job grows more difficult every day. Her unworthy, headstrong son is harder to control than her husband was, and she must spend more time than ever masking her own movements. Her husband's illegitimate daughter Ashen, heir to the nearly dead House of Ash, still causes trouble by her very existence, and must never be given an opening to the throne. The barbarian Sea-Rover clan presents problems from the edge of the Bog, Ysa's newest magical ally has been exposed as a traitor, and nothing is going as Ysa had planned.

And still the unknown yet encroaching threat from the North continues to grow.

Through births and deaths, marriages and duels, love and betrayal, magic and force, the four Houses of Rendelsham can only survive by the strength of their unity--but is unity possible in such a court of intrigue as this one?
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Second in Norton and Miller's Oak, Yew, Ash and Rowan series, this cheerful, childlike, appealing fantasy blithely romps along after its predecessor, To the King a Daughter, replete with whimsical sorcery, swordsmanship and swampy creatures. Arch-manipulator Dowager Queen Ysa struggles for the first half of the book to control her son, King Florian, a vainglorious adolescent so sadistic that everyone, even Ysa, is relieved when he falls to the blade of brave Sea-Rover Obern. Florian's poisoned sword fatally wounds Obern, though, leaving heroine trouble-maker Ashen, Obern's young widow and Florian's illegitimate half-sister, free to wed her dashing heart's desire, Nordor prince-in-exile Gaurin. As Ysa struggles to keep her throne, a mysterious and dangerous magic threatens Rendelsham from the north. Meanwhile, young Rohan, Obern's son and Ashen's fosterling, unmasks sinister Flavielle, a shape-shifting sorceress whom Ysa enlists but who turns out to be a minion of the evil unfolding up north. Norton's fondness and aptitude for medieval styles flavors his jolly panoramas of weddings, feasts, jousts and spells in intrigue-laden Rendelsham. Besides creaky scenario, predictable plotting, one too many kidnappings and the occasional unconvincing twist e.g., Flavielle turns Rohan's beloved Lady Anamora (literally) into a birdbrain the sheer good humor and taste of this inoffensive adventure story give bland, comforting entertainment.

Copyright 2001 Cahners Business Information, Inc.

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"A superb storyteller with a narrative pace all her own."--The New York Times

"Veteran SF and fantasy author Norton combines her formidable storytelling talent with coauthor Miller to create a new series-the "Oak, Yew, Ash and Rowan" cycle-that should appeal to adult and teenage fans of high fantasy. Featuring an engaging and courageous female protagonist, this [is an] epic tale of hidden heirs and unfolding prophecies."-Library Journal
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Product Details

  • School & Library Binding
  • Publisher: Topeka Bindery (May 2002)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0613683536
  • ISBN-13: 978-0613683531
  • Product Dimensions: 6.7 x 4.3 x 1.1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 8 ounces
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (7 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #8,940,779 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars The Enemy Prepares, February 1, 2003
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Knight or Knave is the second novel in the Cycle of Oak, Yew, Ash, and Rowan series. In the previous volume, Ysa's magic has brought Zazar, Ashen, and herself together for introductions. The Sea-Rovers have settled New Vold in Ashenhold lands. Ashen Deathdaughter and Obern have been brought to Cragden Keep by Count Harous, who gives Ashen gifts and hints of her mother. The Bog-folk have begun to attack Rendelian lands. King Boroth has died, after claiming Ashen as his daughter.

In this volume, Florian has become the King, succeeding his father, and, under pressure of his mother and various nobles of the court, has married Rannore, whom he has made pregnant. Ashen meets Queen Ysa and moves into Rendelsham Castle. Ysa sends a messenger to New Vold to inform Snorri know of her son's wedding, to let him that his son, Obern, is alive, and to invite him to visit her at a later date. In the unseasonable cold, the Bog-folk have taken to attacking New Vold for food.

Ashen has met a priest in the Great Fane of the Glowing, who informed Obern and herself of the history of Rendel. Meeting again in the fane, the priest, Esander, shows her a great library hidden deep under Rendelsham which contains many volumes of magical lore. As directed by Zazar, she does not yet attempt any of the magics, although she studies the lore diligently.

Snorri arrives in time for Florian's wedding and, after the ceremony, he tells Obern of the death of his wife, Naeve. Upon discovering that Ashen has been abducted, Obern mounts a rescue effort and then asks for her hand in marriage; his request is granted. After the wedding, Ashen meets the new emissary of the Nordens, Gaurin, son of Count Bjauden, who tells her that his father has never returned from his mission to Rendel and that she wears his father's bracelet, which she had found on a skeleton in some ruins within the boglands. He takes the bracelet, breathes on it -- which causes it to glow briefly -- and returns it, telling her to put it on and think of him if she is ever in need on anything. Obern and Ashen travel to New Vold, where she meets his son, Rohan.

In the northlands, ominous forces are gathering. The Foul One is preparing for the invasion of Rendel.

Some reviewers seem disappointed that this series is not like the Witch World or Time Traders series. Yet those series were intended as juveniles for the most part, whereas this series is for more mature readers. Those series were mostly focused on singleton or paired characters, whereas this series deals with a larger cast of interacting protagonists. Hints of this series can be seen in the tales of Escore, High Hallek, and the Dales, and especially in the Gryphon stories. Indeed, Shadow Hawk, one of Norton's earliest stories, is a tale of courtly intrigue.

Recommended for Norton and Miller fans and anyone who enjoys court intrigue in a fantasy setting.

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12 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Did Andre Norton really write this crap?, January 10, 2002
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Kathy Pucker (Columbia, MD United States) - See all my reviews
I don't think so. Andre Norton's Witch World books got me hooked on the genre so many years ago. It's hard to believe that she has lent her name to this poorly written book.

The premise was promising, and I had high hopes after the first book that the characters would take on a life of their own, and pull me into their world. Sadly, that didn't happen. Norton and Miller can't seem to decide who their protaganist is, or even who major characters in the story are. Are we supposed to like or dislike the queen? We know Ashen is important, but why should we care about her? She is supremely uninteresting. Much time is spent explaining why characters do the things they do (a hallmark of poor writing) because no development has taken place that would allow the reader to infer motivations, or even personalities.

It's a shame. In the write hands, I do believe this could have been an interesting story, with characters who live and breathe, and make you care about what will happen to them next.

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9 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Disjoint plot and unlikeable characters, June 19, 2001
KNIGHT OR KNAVE can't decide what it is about or who its protagonist should be. Is it Queen Ysa, who is terribly evil yet trying to do the right thing for her country? Or maybe it's Ashen, who can't decide who she wants to be married to and then changes into an absolute witch (with a 'b') when confronted with her step-son's choice of a woman. Or maybe it is Rohan, the title character who is clearly a knight, at least as far as this book is concerned. In what possible way could he be classified as a knave.

Evil continues to threaten in the north, but it doesn't really make an appearance until the end of the book. Ysa continues to drive any plot development but she is a relatively minor player in this novel and, as a result, the plot doesn't develop very much at all. Instead the characters run around, kill one another, and don't seem to learn a great deal from their mistakes.

I grew up with Andre Norton. TIME TRADERS and especially WITCH WORLD and THREE AGAINST WITCH WORLD are among my favorite novels. I'd love to see Norton return to her earlier form. Unfortunately, this isn't the book that does it. Since it's the second book in a 4 part series, I have my doubts on whether the series can be saved.

Check out the quotes on the back of the book. If you've ever read such lame praise anywhere else, I'd be surprised.

The novel is well written and I found the universe Norton and Miller have created to be intriguing and full of potential. Unfortunately, they have yet to deliver.

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