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About the Author

Dave Barker-Plummer is a senior research scientist at Stanford University's Center for the Study of Language and Information. Jon Barwise (1942-2000) served on the faculties of Yale University, the University of Wisconsin, Stanford University, and Indiana University. John Etchemendy is currently provost and professor of philosophy and symbolic systems at Stanford University.
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Product Details

  • Paperback: 650 pages
  • Publisher: Center for the Study of Language and Inf; 2nd Edition edition (October 15, 2011)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1575866323
  • ISBN-13: 978-1575866321
  • Product Dimensions: 7.8 x 1.9 x 9.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 2.5 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (26 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #86,281 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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14 of 17 people found the following review helpful By R. Rollins on February 5, 2012
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First off, this book MUST be bought new since it requires a license to grade it. Every review's already stated this, so this isn't my focus.

The worst part about this book: no examples. There are very barebones samples of the absolute basics of each chapter, but it never really shows how to solve any problems. An "example problem" is usually nothing more than something like "P... Q... P ^ Q", which does nothing for you when you need to conclude "Large(a) biconditional (Small(e)^Medium(c))" from wonky premises. The software is so stiff and picky and NO examples from the book work out a complex problem using it. The examples are basically "If P is true and Q is true, then P and Q are true. Now here are some problems that require 20 subproofs each. They should be easy." It's not so much a textbook as it is just a massive problem set, and unless you have a wonderful professor that works out loads of problems, you'll not understand anything.

This book assumes you have already aced a course in logic. Of course, you'll only be using it in intro logic courses. It sucks and I'm sorry for anybody who has to use it.

Additionally, many universities provide a free downloadable copy. You're literally just paying for a license to submit homework.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful By Tim O on January 30, 2013
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The CD makes this book. The book itself is freaking useless but the CD it comes with is worth the purchase price. TONS of examples included on the CD and very good overall software. If this book isn't assigned to you I would recommend purchasing it only for the CD
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful By max on January 18, 2014
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besides information is concerned, for my class i was required to get a brand new book because of the software. When i went to install, of course the disc is blank and has no software. I was able to get the software online on the account. Make sure to include Dashes and capital letters. Very inconvenient for one time use Software that you HAVE to pay for.

The information at first isn't that bad. I'm taking an online class currently with this book. And i'm beyond ends meet with this book. Pulling hair left and right, confused, irritated, and beyond fed up with this book. Unless you have formal knowledge, than this book is better use as fire material. Problems are much difficult than the Examples (of course) and the "hints" are all the easy problems, never difficult problems to get an understanding. The software is pretty crap IMO, constantly dragging clicking this and that, when it could have been formatted much better.
The class is a low level class, and I blame the book and the teacher. There are a couple of websites that "help" somewhat, but if you are already confused it just adds to it. There is no real review system to understand why you get stuff wrong and it defeats the purpose of problems with no way of helping you. I plan on burning this book before i am to "sell" it back Not to mention i HAD to buy the book to obtain the software, forcing you to pay the costs. I DO NOT recommend.
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7 of 9 people found the following review helpful By Psychstudy on February 17, 2013
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The software for it is fine if bought new, but if
((have(you,bad logic instructor))V(take(you,bad notes))
you are almost guaranteed to fail the class; not to mention be unable to decipher the above fol
(more like fml).
All joking aside, thank Jesus my teacher is amazing and he gives us notes, because the book is nearly incomprehensible.
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6 of 8 people found the following review helpful By Pen on October 28, 2013
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This book does an absolutely terrible job of explaining logic. In most instances it offers no examples, and little to no instruction on how to do the homework problems which are done in a computer program that is glitchy, terribly written, hard to use, my complaints about this book are virtually endless. If you are in your right mind do not buy this piece of s***. Unfortunately I am stuck with it and currently at the point of frustration where I am about to throw my computer out a window because my overall grade in this class is going to suffer. It will not suffer because of my inability to do logic, oh no, I understand all of it quite well. My grade will suffer because of terribly written instructions and homework problems that make the class difficult when the material itself is not.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By William Stills on February 10, 2015
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The software is so glitchy and really hard to used. In the end it crashed my 2 year old mac so I had to drop the class. $800 plus the cost of the text book and time spent down the drain. The textbook is badly written and doesn't give examples or much instruction at all. It's by far the worst textbook I've ever used and I'm about to graduate.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful By paulemok on March 22, 2014
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This is one of the best books on introductory logic out there. I'm glad Barwise and Etchemendy recognize the three general notions of logical truth, logical consequence, and logical equivalence each in terms of propositional logic and first-order logic. Out of all the other books on math, logic, and philosophy I've had the honor to look at, I know of no other book that does this. Many of the concepts I've found in this book are unique to it, yet in this day and age these concepts should be found in all introductory books on the subject!

For example, I've only found the concept of "tautological consequence" in this book. The simple claim that not all logical consequences are tautological consequences is a perfect example of a unique, yet true, claim this book makes and supports.
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