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The Layguide: How to Seduce Women More Beautiful Than You Ever Dreamed Possible No Matter What You Look Like or How Much You Make

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This book is full of some very good advice. The ideas of eliciting values, neg hits, social proof, and (most especially) not paying for a woman's attention are very powerful and real. They do help you build a connection and gain status, they are also applicable in situations outside of dating if you know how to handle yourself. It is for this reason that the book receives four stars.

This book also has an element that makes it very controversial for some. It was written by a guy who hopes to help other guys get laid, period. The author's goal is to teach you how to get into a woman's pants. That does NOT have to be YOUR goal in order for you to benefit from it. Those who say that the book is chauvanist are right, and those who say it teaches men to pick up on women in all the wrong ways are focusing on some of the more controversial, and in my opinion crazy, theories presented (such as "GM style" ignore it).

One reviewer mentioned, and with some disgust, that the book advocates a man not buying a drink for a woman unless she "pays" for it with a kiss on the spot, among others. Again, this goes back to social proof, status, and whether or not you're paying for people's time. It also goes back to self-respect, you just met a woman and you're buying her a drink? You better owe her.

One does not have to demand sex from women, or be as chauvanistic as this author, in order to benefit from the technology involved. Trust me, I know. I was an AFC, I then went on to dating six girls at once and found it to be an emotional, psychological, and physical drain not worth the time the emptiness gave me. I did, however, use the techniques in this book to land the love of my life and have since been in a relationship for 1.5years. This book is social dynamics 110: how to handle a dating scenario from the man's perspective. Great book, shady perspective, buy it anyway and apply the techniques in the manner that is most congruent with your personality and demeanor.

The pickup artist has come of age. No longer relying on a hairy chest and a medallion to seduce the opposite sex, a thriving community has appeared on the net, exchanging the latest psychological tips and tricks that lead to a woman's bed. But these people aren't geeks. When it comes to seducing women, they are the real deal, only granting grandmaster pick up status to acolytes after the 1,000th babe has been laid.

And here lies the depressing fact about this book and the inevitable controversy that it has aroused (Germaine Greer having claimed that such men are rapists - seems like some feminists don't want to abandon notions of 'sexual ownership', 'faithfulness', 'duties'.etc at least not when it comes to men). The book is a thoroughly exhaustive anaylsis of what it takes for a man to get a woman into bed, compiled by men who have certainly 'been there and done it' many, many times. They know what works and what doesn't. And for all the complex psychology of 'neg hits', 'NLP patterning' etc, basically the recipe for success is that you have to show the lady you are a dominant caveman. When it comes to seduction, nice guys finish last, something to be avoided when you apparently have an average of 30 seconds to demonstrate to a potential pick-up that you can swing the club harder than any rival Fred Flintstone in sight. It appears deep down, women still want the hairy chest after all.

Feminist critics of the pick-up culture, incapable of any self-criticism as they are, tend to miss this point. Instead of focusing on why such macho men want to have sex with every good looking woman they see (and why shouldn't they?), perhaps they should ask why nearly every good looking woman would rather have sex with men who heed well tested advice such as 'Always be in Control (rule no.1)' and 'Never be Mr Nice Guy (rule no.7)' than men who read Germaine Greer or buy flowers. Feminists (and women in general), constantly make misandryst generalisations about men being inherently aggressive, dominant etc, forgetting that whatever essential nature men might have, if we have it at all, it is because women have spent our evolutionary history choosing it as an attractive sexual trait. And judging from this book, there is little prospect of hope for our evolutionary future. In fact, as women become increasingly financially independent of men, they are correspondingly free to choose sexual partners on solely primitive criteria (whereas before at least a man with lots of money was likely to have reached his position as Alpha male through, to some extent, a high IQ and not simply agressiveness or having the biggest sexual organ).

'Love between the sexes is a war', declared the gloomy Swedish playwright Strindberg. If you want to sharpen your armoury in order to have sex with lots of beautiful woman, this book is essential reading. For those who wish to understand the degradation of contemporary feminism into little more than a sexual trade union for embittered middle-aged women, then also read this book and the controversy that has surrounded it.

Although I believe 100 percent that Mr. Clinke is himself an exceptional PUA, he lacks proportional talent in writing.

The book lacks structure and at times is very inconsistent. One minute it's "get her phone number" and then it's "never ask for the number, let her give it to you" and then it's "never give her yours" and so on. The book is full of little rules for behavior, that A. often contradict a previous rule, and B. are painfully vague and generalized. In the end, the book is just a messy pile scattered ideas that places no focus on the fundamental issues, leaving out all of subconscious things and subtleties that truly determine how women feel about you. Needless to say, it does not live up to its silly and excessive title, which promises the world but more than likely will just set the reader back even farther in the game. After reading it, he will most likely say to himself "wow, if i can't get laid after reading this book, then there's really no hope for me at all". Let's keep in mind, this book is the thoughts and experiences of one man (and not much of a literary man) whose personal successes are the culmination of his unique qualities... not that of the general population. Find your own way, reader, instead of reading this sloppy guide which will more than anything confuse, and possibly hurt your chances with the opposite sex.

I'm writing a book about women at present and The Lay Guide is one of the many editions I have piled up in a corner. I just got to it today and am quite impressed. I first heard of the author last year as I was reading Neil Strauss's The Game. This is not a typical dating book as there is very little fluff in these pages. Just about everything he addresses is valuable, and, I believe, accurate. He shows readers the route in which they too can go from being Average Frustrated Chumps to Pickup Artists. His methods are sound and proven and I honestly believe they work. If you ask me, guys like Clink know more about women than most psychologists because they interpret them as they are and do not allow political correctness to contaminate their analysis. That this clashes with the Woman as Superior Being role society has cast them into all the more illustrates his insightfulness. The only problem with the Pickup Artist and his choices is that the sacrifices one has to make are far too great to be considered. When you're 19, obtaining women is more important than everything else in life combined. Luckily, as we get older, our needs become more textured and we can properly see that women are just one element in the good life. Sex and romance are exquisite, but we should be grateful that there's so much more in the world apart from them.

I bought this book and I wanted to say that its great. Lots of the review, mainly the female reviewers here are missing the point. I bought this book because i've just come out of a really hard time in my life and have never ever had any luck with women. I'm not ugly, but my confidence was really low. The techniques in this book have helped me a lot. I can actually look a girl in the eyes now and carry a convosation. I'm not out to be a player but I want a girl friend like every other guy out there. If you dont know how to approach, meet and talk to women you dont know, how is that ever going to happen? It wont and you're going to be lonely for the rest of your life. Knowing how to talk to women, get phone numbers and get a girl friend for someone who has no experience seems like the hardest thing in the world. This book can help over come a low selfesteem. The fact is 99% of the time its the man who has to approach a woman to meet her to eventually start a relationship with her. If you are inexperienced unless you are a guy in that situation you have no idea how hard it can be. This book helps. I love it.

Thank you Tony Clink

... and although there's a few inspiring ideas to be found here, there's also some pretty crazy schemes that could get you into serious trouble (lying in wait along bike paths and jumping in the way of attractive females at the last moment in order to meet them??? that's the kind of thing that'll scare the bejeezus out of women, create a creepy first impression and possibly even get you arrested for public mischief - or worse).

His 3-second rule is also highly questionable: immediately approaching every attractive woman you see within 3 seconds of spotting her (another way of saying "playing the numbers").

The way I see it, fussy types with discriminating tastes like myself need to see more than just a pretty face before deciding who's worth pursuing and, secondly, in a nightclub scenario, this approach will only make you appear to be a desperately impulsive horndog working on a deadline - and no woman likes being hit on by an anxious horndog (and neither do their jealous boyfriends, a critical "X" factor you have to ascertain before recklessly zooming yourself into an awkward situation).

Instead, think like one of the big cats on the African plains hunting its prey - be patient, play it cool, scope the room, zero in on your chosen targets, assess their situation and figure out what your approach will be before making your move - after all, what's the big friggin' hurry?

Overall, it's quite apparent that the author holds overrated "neuro-linguistic programming" quack Ross "Speed Seduction" Jeffries in way too high esteem, as he makes reference to him ad nauseum and seems to revere him as some sort of Geek Love God (which is somewhat puzzling, because any true PUA would read Jeffries' unintentionally hilarious material and see him for the transparent B.S. artist that he really is - his theory being that running "patterns" - prefab "Pepe Le Pew meets Weird Science"-type speeches intended to seduce unwitting females - will practically lull women into a hypnotic state of sexual acquiescence and make them want to jump your bones regardless of how unattractive or socially awkward you might be... nice fantasy, but tell me, are there fools out there gullible enough to actually believe this???).

Read the book, be smart enough to recognize the sensible pieces of advice from the laughably misguided ones, and use your good judgment in implementing the useful stuff at the right time/place... and you should do OK.

PS: this book would deserve 3.5-4 stars if author Tony Clink would ease up on the Ross Jeffries garbage.

The problem with this book is the title - it's crass and long. It conveys the concept of trashy material. I guess that's what sells.

Surprisingly, the book's contents seem to be a fascinating mix of psychology and practical pick-up-artist observations and advice. This is not a rah-rah you-can-do-it self-motivator feel good book.

Right from the start it makes the claim that men tend to notice a woman's looks first. And, that while women also notice men's looks, it's actually how a man makes her feel that matters most. And, given that the attractive woman has been approached again and again by guys that want just one thing, they've consequently heard every line in the book; their internal defense mechanism is on high alert. This book explains how to understand their mind set, engage the conversation in an interesting manner, and treat them like a human being.

It explains why don't like jerks, but fall for them. It explains why nice guys don't get anywhere. The book doesn't advocate being a jerk, but instead taking the positive traits from the jerks that get the initial contact and to combine it with the nice guy traits that keep her.

After reading you'll become far more attuned to self defeating behaviors as well have a number of practical solutions for standing out and getting noticed.

One of 100's of "How To" guides - but in this volume the reader will find a composite and detailed summation of most of the basic information on the subject available.
Clink, although accomplished in his own right, gives credit where credit is due. In fact, if one has read Neil Strauss' THE GAME - a lot of the names will be familiar. I found this book practical and entertaining, and pretty detailed. There's many schools of thought out there on the art of the pickup, and Clink touches on most of them. The more I read on the subject, and the more I practice the gambits, the more it boils down to being a confident male. But a lot of the information contained herein will enable the reader to build that confidence with the knowledge he acquires - or better said, be able to fake it till you make it.

Since I've started reading the books from the Pick Up Community, I've seen a pattern in the basic ways to approach women: it's basically putting out all the good qualities associated with being a man.

Be confident. Attentive, charming, humorous. Dress better, work on conversational skills. Maintain respect but also hold the course for seduction.

All of this sounds simple enough but...I think I belong to a generation of broken homes where the battling, bewildered single parents didn't pass on ANYTHING useful to their children. Let popular music and TV guide you into the Tunnel of Love.

And what a disaster that's been. (It also didn't help that social engineering tried to instill that boys and girls are essentially the same. How damaging has that been?).

So these books, while initially provoking women to be offended that men will be taking advantage of them, end up being the education us guys never got.

THE LAYGUIDE has a title that would suggest this book is about only seducing and taking advantage of women. I didn't really get that. (If you're looking for a book that not only writes in terms of women as only sexual objects but where to go and how much to spend on endless sex objects, that would be THE PROFESSIONAL BACHELOR. Especially the second half).

THE LAYGUIDE is a smooth, well-written How To book on approaching women and moving into a relationship, whether for one night or the rest of your life.

Has no structure, no step by step, just a collection of loosely related chapters, better to get "Mystery Method" that is the real deal.