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36 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Extraordinary love story, beautiful writing,
By m-starr (Washington D.C. area) - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
By any standard, the tale of Heloise and Abelard is an extraordinary story => brilliant young philosopher seduces brilliant beautiful student, passionate affair ensues, she gets pregnant, and they secretly marry -- but her relatives feel he has wronged her terribly, and in the middle of the night they break in and castrate him, after which both take refuge in the church. This book begins with a well-written introduction by Betty Radice, which gives an overview of the story. The letters, written years after the affair, are of great eloquence and depth of thought and feeling. Through them, the couple works to transform their 'earthly love'(which had continued to burn in Heloise's heart) into a spiritual bond that turns out to have similarly great passion and transcendence. Although the letters are steeped in religious debates and intrigues of the time, their beauty makes the love behind them seem as alive today as it was so many centuries ago ...
60 of 69 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Everlasting Love!,
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This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
When a subject is as ineffably touching as the love story of Abelard and Heloise, it'll drive you continuously to dig more and deeper into the story. So after the novel "Stealing Heaven" by Marion Meade, the film based on the novel entitled with the same name, as well as the poignant musical "Rage Of The Heart" by Enrico Garzilli, in which Peter Abelard was sung by Michael Ball and Heloise by Janet Mooney, I read the book "The Letter Of Peter Abelard And Heloise". If all of the previous works I have encountered are artworks carrying more or less the creators' imaginations as well as their biases, then this book of letters, not only a true documentation of these two extraordinary human minds, but also a true portrayal of these two extraordinary human souls, provides the resources where you could reach the truth and make the judgment of your own.
Peter Abelard is a far more complicated human being than any artwork could deal. This is a man who was blessed with talent that's so distinctive, born with the charisma that's so appealing, and yet, tormented by the tragedy that's most appalling. The letters included reveal the connections of Abelard and Heloise years after both of them took vow to monastery life. You'd feel that the tragic consequence of their love relationship had created a different Abelard, from whom the words were more focused on his devotion to God and his advice to Heloise on the same subject, also his keenness on his study, and his somewhat apathy towards their previous relationship, for which it could be easily mistaken as selfishness or indifference. But it'd be very unfair to blame Abelard for negligence. If we are able to see that this is a man who had suffered unimaginable infliction and unbearable humiliation, for which he himself believed to be the punishment for his sin, it becomes all so understandable of his words of remorse and his dedication. I believe that after the tragedy, he tried to hide his pain and forget the past in order to re-live his life. After all, he had paid the highest price for his love to Heloise. However, despite all these, his deep love and emotions towards Heloise could not be concealed but be felt between the lines written to her and from the Historia calamitatum: The Story of His Misfortunes, written by Abelard to a friend. Although their love that once reached its peak was forced to come to an end so suddenly, later on through letters it had been restored in an unusual spiritual way and on a new level of depth. Heloise, an equally extraordinary human being as Abelard, on the other hand, was simpler and more straightforward, and yet, with a mind that's almost as acute and a heart that's braver and more passionate. When disaster struck upon these two lovers, she took the veil and entered the abbey in obedience to his wishes, only for her love to Abelard. Her sentimentality could be fully felt from her emotional outpouring of tears, grieves, and longings in the letters. The walls of Abbey never stopped her from loving Abelard, to whom the love she confessed and never denied to be beyond her love to God. Her perspective about true love is most incisive. Her talking about sensuality of flesh is very frank. When responding to Abelard on the subject of virtue and chastity, her strong arguments and copious quotations from various resources are simply brilliant. This is a woman, with exceptional beauty both inside and outside as well as the most admiring courage, who cannot be judged conventionally. The text translation is eloquent, literary, and beautiful. These letters, once were written many centuries ago and once were the only connection between two passionate hearts, are still compelling to read nowadays. In their own words, they told the story, in which they were teacher and student; friend and lover; husband and wife; brother and sister; and ultimately, two inseparable souls.
24 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Tragic Story,
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This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
I have been fascinated by the story of Heloise and Abelard ever since reading the book Stealing Heaven in 1979. Reading theses Letters was heartbreaking to me. This is my take on the whole thing: obviously Peter and Heloise had a deeply passionate sexual relationship. For Heloise, this grew also into an affair of the heart. For both of them it was an affair of the mind. What could be more enticing to a man than a woman of Heloise's intellect and passion? However, it was also the Middle Ages. Heloise was from a prominant family with an uncle high in the Church heirarchy. She loved Peter, as women do, with body, mind and soul. I believe he loved her deeply, but it is different with men. And as long as he was a whole man, I believe he acted honorably. But there is no way around it: her pregnancy was a disaster. What were they to do, what could they do? It is not as if he and she could live together married happily ever after. He faced ruin when she became pregnant: everything he was was put at great risk--his life's work was at stake, his standing in society, his reputation, his position at his University. They marry in secret, she hides away in a convent waiting to be rescued and carried off by her husband to a life of what? She doesn't care--she only wants to be with the man she loves. But what about him? How does he see this future? I feel sorry for the guy. But all this is moot, because her uncle has him castrated. At that point, he changes. No one seems to be acknowledging the effect this would have on him. The most importand underpinning of his feeling for Heloise, i.e., testosterone-induced lust, is suddenly gone. Then add in the humiliation, pain, etc., etc. There you have it. His only option was the Church. Her only option was the Church. But how very differently they embarked upon that life. To him it is a welcome refuge. He can continue to live his life of the mind in that setting. He is surrounded by other celibate men. He has no sexual feelings anymore. He is a different person. Whatever feeling he had for Heloise is cut from him. Indeed, he sees the whole thing as sinful, dirty, to be repented of. She, on the other hand, is in an entirely different situation. Religious life for her is not a refuge, but a prison. She has no access to her child. She has lost her love and lover, against her will. Not only are they separated, but the man she loves no longer loves her. It would have been better for her had he died. But to read his letters to her, wherein he totally rejects and condemns and regrets what she treasures most in her life and scolds her for not doing the same is heartbreaking. The letters make perfect sense to me. She was tormented by her love for him till old age cooled her ardor. She set her considerable mind at work on managing her religious order, but it was second-best, by far, till she was older. Since she adored him all her life, she engaged with him in the only manner he would allow: letters regarding religion and the religious life. I don't know how she bore it for all those years. No doubt about it: the uncle is the villian. Both Heloise and Peter suffered greatly: she had her heart torn from her, and he had his manhood torn from him.
26 of 32 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Heloises Words Still Ring True,
This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
What amazed me about this book, is that Heloise, a 12th century woman raised in a convent, expressed her sexuality with such openess. Her emotions come alive. Readers of the 21st century will be able to relate to her feelings.She never stopped loving Abelard. Even after he entered a monastery and she a convent. They corresponded until his death. She wrote that the memories of their lovemaking haunted her, even during prayer sessions at the convent. This is a must read for history fans and romantics.
10 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Heloise's Letters Broke My Heart,
This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
The story of my misfortunes (mentioned in this book) was long letter Abelard published and addressed to an unknown, unlucky friend, as a way to comfort that friend. It was a clever way to write one's autobiography, actually! But I feel so strongly that Abelard had been terribly unfair to Heloise.
Heloise's letters broke my heart. After years of suffering in silence for Abelard's sake, Heloise had not received as much as a note from Abelard. Only after she accidentally got hold of the Misfortunes -and seeing that Abelard wrote it- did he write her in answer to her letter where she begged him to write her and comfort her, too. All these years, she still loved him madly and often dreamed of their previous forbidden encounters even when she was awake in the convent. Heloise was so honest, her letters so poignant. There was no phoniness about her. She was still so passionate and still so much in love. You cannot say the same thing of Abelard. Abelard seem to write Heloise in an irritatingly detached, cold manner. He was quick to reprimand Heloise for being weak and for complaining. But he was so slow to understand. It was so easy for him to ask Heloise to set aside their sexual past since he was already impotent. But Heloise was barely 20 while he was pushing 43! She confessed that even though people thought her pious, she was a hypocrite. Because when she was alone, her thoughts, her spontaneous words and actions (use your imagination) betrayed the deep love and sexual longing she still felt towards Abelard. To put it bluntly, even in the convent she was still smoking hot! Reading her letters make you feel so sorry for her. Yet the man who should feel that way didn't seem to. Oh yeah, I forgot, Abelard lost his balls not to mentin being persecuted and running for his life. Never did Abelard expressly asked Heloise forgiveness for all the troubles he lead her into, did he? All through his letters he continued to ask Heloise to do as he wishes. His intention, that they both transcend their carnal weaknesses and suffer for their past fornications, is noble, I give him that. But he seemed so dispassionate and at times heartless, in my opinion. I imagined that instead of giving comfort, he hurt Heloise even more. But what do I know? Every love story is unique. Read the Letters, if only to sympathize with Heloise. May God Bless both these lovers' souls.
38 of 52 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Heloise a Hero; Abelard an Anti-hero,
By Acnoth "acnoth" (Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada) - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
I can't agree with those who claim that this is a beautiful and romantic love story. Sure, Abelard paid the romantically painful price of being castrated because of his relationship with Heloise, but my reading of the letters and of Betty Radice's excellent introduction leads me to believe that Abelard was castrated precisely because he had cast Heloise outb of his life. At the time that Heloise's angry uncle had Abelard castrated, she was already in a convent. We can only take it on faith that Abelard ever really meant to rescue her from that life. And once Abelard is castrated, he needs to be strongly prodded by Heloise before he will renew their relationship at any level. This is not my idea of a romantic story, even of torturously star-crossed lovers. In fact, Heloise seems to realize that Abelard was only interested in her for the sex when she accuses him of just that, suggesting that now that for him sex is an impossibility he has no use left for her. Indeed, were it not for the marvelously guilt-inducing plaintives from Heloise it is possible (probable?) that Abelard would have successfully managed to place her in his past. I understand and fully empathize with the trauma that Abelard must have went through, but there is no indication of a willingness on his part, even long after he should have come to terms with his situation, that he was prepared to make Heloise a significant part of his life. Even when Heloise was finally able to force herself back into Abelard's life, he was only willing to admit her there on a theological and phiosophical level. To me, the story of Heloise and Abelard is a story of an intelligent young woman who fell madly in love with an intelligent older (but still young) man, and who then paid a price brought on her by her love and her situation when HE proved unequal to the task. That being said, this edition of the letters is brilliantly introduced, and the letters (with the context of the introduction) will stir an emotional reaction.
15 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A Beautiful Story,
By A Customer
This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
This is a facinating medieval romance, which I had actually never heard about until I read this book. Now that I have, however, I highly recommend it. The romance of Abelard and Heloise is a well known classic in France--it is high time the rest of us heard about it, too. The story of Abelard and Heloise is "star-crossed lovers" yarn akin to something out of Shakespeare. This is the story of Peter Abelard, an outstanding scholar from twelfth century France, and Heloise, a beautiful young girl with a reputation for brilliance. Abelard is impressed with her, and manages to talk her uncle into making her his pupil. They fall in love, and eventually are secretly married and have a child. However, Heloise's uncle becomes suspicious of Abelard's motives and has him castrated. Abelard seeks refuge in the monastic life, and insists that Heloise follow his example. In the midst of their hardships, they keep in touch through the letters contained in this book. The letters are beautifully written and really manage to bring the story to life. And I would just like to add that I don't agree with the reviewers who criticized Abelard. Abelard was a fine man, and there are no real grounds for anyone to suspect him of deceit. Sure, he was reluctant to renew his relationship with Heloise, but that is completely understandable. He had been mutilated, for crying out loud--the guy was humiliated. If he didn't love her, why wouldn't he say so outright? He had nothing to gain from lying. Cut the poor man a break! He was persecuted viciously enough during his lifetime. Do you people really have to keep pecking at him a thousand years after his death? Stop trying to turn a classic love story into an episode of Jerry Springer, okay? Potential readers, please don't let a few overly suspicious critics fool you--the book's demmed good. Buy it now!
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Not All Theologians Are Boring,
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This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
The Letters of Abelard and Heloise is an intense read. It is no doubt true that the staying power of these writings is owing to the soap-opera-like lives of its authors as well as the poetic and romantic language. This collection brings together Abelard's biography written to a friend, "The History of My Own Misfortunes" in which he divulges from beginning to end, all the drama surrounding his rise from philosophy student to a sort of Scholastic celebrity in Paris. The other part of this book is taken up by the personal letters between Abelard and Heloise, from which the reader discovers much about the relationship of a monk and nun who had a romance outdoing anything Shakespeare could have dreamed up for Romeo and Juliet. Their relationship became more formal for Abelard following his radical nighttime castration by Heloise's father. Heloise displays the passion with which she continues to love Abelard even though she joins a convent at his behest. Abelard's tone changes in his personal letters from what it was in his "History," yet Heloise never changes hers. She remains in love with him and lets it show in each letter to him. He takes on the role of a spiritual leader and writes to her instructions and answers to her questions, but he does not keep up with the romantic language as Heloise does.
The value in this type of book, when the texts themselves are available for free download on the internet, is the translation, introduction and notes provided on the historical situation which allow the reader to enjoy it more fully. The translation and introduction done by the late Betty Radice in 1974, who succeeds in humanizing these two long dead authors so that their writings move the reader to an emotional reaction. The updated introduction added by M.T. Clanchy provides a clear look at what scholarship has done with Abelard and Heloise since Radice's book was first published. Her translation aids the reader's enjoyment because it contemporizes the language. The internet versions available are translated archaically due to the fact that those texts are in the public domain and therefore prior to about 1926, which makes it a slower read. This is not a book of theology, though Abelard was arguably the greatest theologian of the Middle Ages, but of real romance despite the star-crossed lovers' ill fated lives.
29 of 47 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
A summary,
This review is from: The Letters of Abelard and Heloise (Penguin Classics) (Paperback)
Letter 1 (Historia Calamitatum), Abelard to a friend. You think you have it bad? Let me tell you about the mess I've been through and you'll feel a lot better (p. 3). Things were going great until the other professors realized I was smarter than they were and hated me for it. And then I met Heloise, and things really went downhill from there. Her looks were okay, and I'm a handsome dude, so I thought she'd be easy (p. 10). Her uncle Fulbert was an idiot to leave me alone with her (pp. 10-11). I was her teacher and she was just a kid, but I couldn't keep my hands off her. I slapped her around a little to make it look like I was teaching her and not doing her (p. 11). We went at it like rabbits. I knocked her up, she had a kid, and Uncle Fulbert made us get hitched. It was supposed to be a secret, but Fulbert started to spill the beans, so I put Heloise in a convent. That really pissed off Fulbert, so he made a steer out of me (pp. 16-17). Then I made Heloise take the veil, and I became a monk. Now I'm stuck in a hellhole of a monastery in Brittany with a bunch of thugs.
Letter 2, Heloise to Abelard. I just saw the letter you wrote to your friend. Too bad things have been tough, but how come I haven't gotten a letter from you in over 10 years? I think about you all the time, you big stud. It makes me crazy. I'd rather be called your whore than your wife (p. 51). All the girls were jealous of me; we still sing your songs (pp. 52-53). I'd really like to get a letter from you, especially since it was your idea that I become a nun (p. 53). You were a real jerk back then when you waited to make sure I became a nun before you became a monk (p. 54). The least you can do is write. Letter 3, Abelard to Heloise. How am I supposed to know you wanted to hear from me? I figured you've had better things to do in the last few years than read my letters. Be a good sister and don't worry about me. But if I kick the bucket, bury me at the convent (p. 61). Letter 4, Heloise to Abelard. Don't talk that way! It makes me crazy to think of you dead. It seems especially unfair that Uncle Fulbert waited until after we were married to get the knives out. I loved doing the nasty with you. All I do is remember us getting it on. I can't even sleep (pp. 68-69). I really can't stand it. Letter 5, Abelard to Heloise. Black women are not as good-looking as other women, but they have nice teeth and soft skin - it's better to keep them behind closed doors, you know (pp. 73-75). Do you remember when I used to smack you around when you weren't in the mood (p. 81)? Quit your complaining. Let's write only about religious stuff from now on. Letter 6, Heloise to Abelard. Are there any loopholes in the Benedictine Rule for nuns?...
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The Letters of Abelard and Heloise,
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It's always best to get hold of what was actually written or said, if at all possible. This book is as close to original as can be had. It is a fascinating book because its many letters reveal, at least a little, why some people do potentially harmful things to themselves and perhaps others. At the same time it refreshingly demonstrates that, in the end, people have been doing the same things for just about as long as, well, people have been around!
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