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J. F. Pagel MS MD (Author)
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The Limits of Dream focuses on what we currently know of the human central nervous system (CNS), examining the basic sciences of neurochemisty, neuroanatomy, and CNS electrophysiology as these sciences apply to dream, then reaching beyond basic science to examine the cognitive science of dreaming including the processes of memory, the perceptual interface, and visual imagery. Building on what is known of intrapersonal CNS processing, the book steps outside the physical body to explore artificially created dreams and their use in filmmaking, art and story, as well as the role of dreaming in creative process and creative "madness." The limits of our scientific knowledge of dream frame this window that can be used to explore the border between body and mind. What is known scientifically of the cognitive process of dreaming will lead the neuroscientist, the student of cognitive science, and the general reader down different paths than expected into an exploration of the fuzzy and complex horizon between mind and brain.

* The clearest presentation of research and philosophy currently available relating to the mind/brain interface
* Discusses the cognitive processes of dreaming utilized in film and artificial intelligence
* Describes the functioning of dream in creative process

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"Jim Pagel's The Limits of Dream delves into the scientific, philosophical, creative and psychological aspects of this very human phenomenon and manages to be both coherent and consistently interesting. The only other book I've read about dreams told you how to play the horses."
--John Sayles, Director, Writer, and Actor


"This wonderfully creative book, based on the author's many original studies of sleep and dreams, as well as his masterful knowledge the relevant fields in neuroscience, provides us with a new theory of dreaming as well as a devastating critique of the highly visible but simplistic neurophysiological theories of dreams that have been on the stage for all too long."
-G. William Domhoff, Research Professor in Psychology, University of California, Santa Cruz


"This marvelous book starts from research neuropsychology and blazes on into the intricate beauty and creativities of dream phenomenology and cognition, and all that bridging into film as dream and dream as film. Its breadth and philosophical sophistication are unique in dream studies. It is a major achievement."
Harry T. Hunt, Psychology, Brock University


"Dr. Pagel is an extremely well regarded researcher in both the worlds of sleep and of dreams. What he is proposing is quite unique and could be an important "bridging" book between these two domains who have unfortunately had a previous relationship somewhat analogous to one of being water and oil."
-Bob van de Castle, University of Virginia Medical Center and former president of the Association for the Study of Dreams

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Clay codas unearthed from ancient Mesopotamia and inscribed with the dream of a King mark the historic limits of dream study. Some 4000 years later, in the plaza of Athens, Aristotle pushed the limits of critical thinking by arguing for a definition of dream in his attempt to understand human thought in abstract form. Fifteen centuries later, Descartes' attempt to differentiate between wake and dream led to the beginning of the scientific era, and a weakening of religious constraints.

Today, a system of hard-wired neurotransmission controlled by on-off switches in the brain is postulated to explain much of the functioning of the human central nervous system (CNS), one of the most complex systems that we have ever tried to understand. The Limits of Dream focuses on what we currently know of the human CNS, examining the basic sciences of neurochemistry, neuroanatomy, and CNS electrophysiology as these sciences apply to dream, then reaching beyond basic science to examine the cognitive science of dreaming including the processes of memory, the perceptual interface, and visual imagery.

Building on what is known of intrapersonal CNS processing, we step outside the physical body to explore artifically created dreams and their use in filmmaking, art and story, as well as the role of dreaming in creative process and creative "madness". The limits of our scientific knowledge of dream frame this window that can be used to explore the border between body and mind.

What we know scientifically of the cognitive process of dreaming will lead the neuroscientist, the student of cognitive science, the cinematographer, and the general reader down different paths than expected into an exploration of the fuzzy, complex, eclipse horizon between mind and brain.

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  • Hardcover: 250 pages
  • Publisher: Academic Press; 1 edition (April 7, 2008)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0123742153
  • ISBN-13: 978-0123742155
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3.0 out of 5 stars Student's Review of "The Limits of Dream" by JF Pagel, October 17, 2011
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The Limits of Dreams is scientific discussion of our current knowledge of human dreams, their significance, and the mechanism by which they occur. J.F. Pagel includes an impressive amount of previous studies of sleep, dreaming, and cognition ranging from early 18th and 19th century to the last decade. His main thesis throughout the book is the question of whether or not we should consider the body and mind as separate entities, and also whether or not we should experimentally stick to defining dreaming as occurring only during REM sleep-or Pagel puts it, does REMS = Dreams?

The book is a lot less dramatic and exciting than its title and even front cover may suggest. Pagel takes a somewhat dosile and critical view of our ability to define and understand dreams. He poses questions and provides alternative/opposing arguments on pretty much every facet of the subject. Throughout all the data and propositions, he constantly reminds us of the discrepancy between body and mind, and between REM dreams and non-REM dreams, and in the end we are left with the position that we still don't know much of anything about dreams.

Apart from the spelling errors and humorless scientific writing style, it is not nearly as enjoyable as I had hoped. It is, however, very insightful and thoughtful. I learned a good amount of knowledge I hadn't yet learned from my Intro to Neuroscience class at Georgia Tech. If I had little or no knowledge of neuroscience before I picked up this book, it would be a lot more dense and difficult to follow, though. The organization of the book is adequate, but had room to improve. Pagel did-depending on one's view-either a great job, or an annoying job of repeatedly reminding us of how each section proved or disproved the questions of whether or not REMS = Dreams, or Body = Mind.

Overview and opinion of the specific sections of the book:

1. Introduction/background

The first section does an adequate job of priming you for the rest of the book. It is here that we given several different definitions of ideas. The main two, as I mentioned, are questionable equations Pagel likes to use. They are:
Mind = Body? And REMS = Dreaming?
This critical technique allows you to evaluate for yourself which theory-Cartesian, Gestalt, Monist, Dualist, Freud's psychoanalysis, etc.-you find more plausible. He then later goes on to provide a majority of information leaning towards the Monist theory of body = mind. We also get several theories of cognition and mind. Pagel also gives us a nice table of 14 different definitions of "dream" by 14 different authors-some scientific, some literary.

2. Biological Substrate of Dream

This is where we start to see how little data there is to support the theories of dreams out there. Pagel himself states "There are few scientists that study dreams. It is not an area of study that attracts funding, tenure, or status." This is true and very sad, for I think dreams are possibly the key to understand the very basic functions of human cognition and neuroscience. We know fairly well how we work when we're awake and doing tasks, but when we go to bed at night and let our mind rest and delve into itself, that's where I believe the mind truly manifests its capabilities. But I digress. This section explains the neuroanatomy of dreaming through several experiments and theories-the main focus being on REM dreaming versus non-REM dreaming. We also see about the neurochemistry of dreaming. It is here where one of the most interesting points is made-that the neurotransmitters utilized during dreaming are the same as when we're awake. Pagel also goes into detail about certain medications that affect sleep and, reportedly, dreaming. Another interesting section is about nightmares and the neurotransmitters associated with nightmares. Studies have shown than SSRI medication apparently can induced disordered dreaming-whether that's nightmares or irregular dreaming. Next, Pagel explains some of the electrophysiology of sleep and dreams. This, of course, includes descriptions of the different EEG states and waves. This is where the research I've done for my wikipedia page helped me get through quickly. Pagel also touches on neural networks and some theories of consciousness, including Crick and Mitchinson's that dreams may be a natural result of neural net overloading in the CNS. Pagel concludes this section with a trademark statement that "simple answers and simple models no longer seem to work for the hard sciences addressing CNS structure. Yeah, go figure...

3. Studying the Cognitive Substrate if Dreaming

This section begins with a discussion of the "Substrate Hypothesis" which deals with studies in dream recall with insomniacs. The most interesting finding here is that people with Sleep Apnea tend to have worse dream recall than those who don't, but when compared to sleep apnea patients who had insomnia, their dream recall was better with the insomnia, than just sleep apnea and no insomnia. The main conclusions that were drawn is that OSA (sleep apnea) significantly decreases dream recall, and insomnia can have varying effects.
The next chapter in this section deals with memory and dreaming. The foremost conclusion here is that "dreaming is likely to utilize the same neural processing system as a memory in the integration into conscious thought.

4. The Cognitive Process of Dreaming

As you can imagine, there is an immense amount not known about how the cognitive process of dreaming works, so this section has a mix of information about the neurology of emotions, and theories as to how they tie into dreams. Most of the focus in this chapter is about the strong correlation between PTSD and nightmares/night terrors.
The next chapter explores the visual interface with the mind and dreams. The majority of the chapter explains the neurology behind vision and its functions, then it goes into imagery and dreams. This is where an unexpectedly interesting topic arises. Pagel begins to describe the link between dreams and film. He claims "film is an artificial construct that approximates the same visual imagery utilized cognitively in dreams."
The next chapter discusses thinking and dreaming. In his discussion of the neurological basis of thought, one of the most striking points he gives us is how
"the best evidence for CNS changes produced in the practicioners is electrophysiologic base on the increased frontal gamma activity noted in long-term practitioners of Tibetan Buddhism."

This shows that things like meditation and thought training can actually improve conscious and subconscious cognition.

5. The Cognitive Organization of Dreaming

This section was summed up when Pagel states "one way of viewing the dream is as a demonstration in an unadulterated form how we organize perceptions and memories in order to make sense of the world." I like and agree with this statement, and feel it sufficiently describes our current knowledge and definition of dreaming. This section also discusses hallucinations versus dreams, and the story-like (sometimes) form of dreams.
We are also given an entire chapter about film and its likeness to dreams. Pagel describes some of the research he's done with filmmakers and actors at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, UT. His findings showed that the majority of the participants had at some point used past dreams in the creative process of their filmmaking.

6. Functional Uses of Dreaming

Pagel continues to go into the link between creativity and dream capabilities. The single most interesting conclusion drawn in this chapter is that
"in our own study of non-dreamers we found that psychopathology was more common in dreamers than in non-dreamers," and "frequent, intense dreamers share with artists a psychological characteristic that he [Ernest Hartmann] calls 'thin borders.' Individuals with thin borders see most issues as undefined."
I can agree with this conclusion, and believe I am a good example of its truth.

7. Models of Mind and Brain

This section provides us, in detail, the different theories of Mind and Brain. There are several monist theories, all of which have the central argument that mind = brain, then there are several Cartesian theories that say mind ' brain. The remainder of the book is just opposing arguments for each side of the argument, which is a good strategy by Pagel to allow you to choose your own to believe. There is no great last paragraph, or line, sending us off, so I didn't enjoy that, but what can you expect from a scientific writer?

There is a wonderfully extensive list of references for each chapter, so that's very helpful. Overall, this was an OK book. It is fairly informational, but not exactly compelling. As I mentioned before, Pagel did not have any persuasive argument other than that there is so much more we need to know. This book, because of its lack of personality, did leave me craving more information and explanation, though, so that was effective.

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An amazing book. The most important and accessible book on the science of dreaming since Freud.
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disordered dreaming, associative visual imagery, dream recall frequency, actual perceptual input, nightmare recall, eclipse horizon, border between mind, dream incorporation, disturbed dreaming, focused waking, intrinsic memory, cognitive substrate, perceptual isolation, dream use, waking behaviors, electrical rhythms, dream incubation
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The Biological Substrate of Dream, Studying the Cognitive Substrate of Dreaming, The Cognitive Organization of Dreaming, The Cognitive Process of Dreaming, The Neurochemistry of Dreaming, The Limits of Dream, Models of Mind, Mind Not Brain, The Electrophysiology of Dreaming, The Cartesian Psychoanalyst, Plato's Cave, Exploring the Visual Interface, John Sayles, The Neuroanatomy of Dreaming, Van de Castle, Carl Jung, The Complexity of Dreams, Another Planet, The Projected Dream
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