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Live '84 [Live]

Black FlagAudio CD
4.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (19 customer reviews)

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  • Audio CD (January 20, 1998)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Live
  • Label: Sst Records
  • ASIN: B000000M00
  • Average Customer Review: 4.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (19 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #153,559 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Although Black Flag's classic period was between 1980 and 1982, with the punkier Jealous Again EP, the almost hardcore Damaged album, and the scattering of singles which surrounded them, the band's period of greatest influence was as a roaring sludge-metal outfit--as featured here. Singer Henry Rollins hadn't yet begun to think of himself as a poet, which is good. Guitarist Greg Ginn however, while always tremendous with a three-second lead flourish, had started to get flatulent with the solos, so punk purists beware. But the Kira Roessler/Bill Stevenson rhythm section was at their most thundering, and the track selection here draws from a wide swath of the band's catalogue. For a great career-retrospective, try Wasted Again. --Gavin McNett

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17 of 17 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The best live Flag album January 2, 2002
Format:Audio CD
This is, so far, the best readily available recording of Black Flag live. This needs to be said.
If you liked their earlier, punkier stuff, there's enough on this to keep you more or less happy. If, however, you accept that Black Flag transcended hardcore to become simply one of the best rock bands ever, then this recording scores over their later live album "Who's got the 10 1/12?" on three counts: firstly, they just sound louder on this one; secondly, this has better material; and thirdly, this was one of the best Flag lineups ever. Henry Rollins hadn't yet given up singing the songs, as opposed to shouting them; Greg Ginn was discovering what a creative guitarist he could be; Kira Roessler still liked being in the band, and Bill Stevenson was the best drummer Flag ever had. The sound recording is a bit muddy and thick, but then so was the band, so it sounds great that way. Live '84 is a primary document of a fantastic band playing some of its best songs as hard and as fast as possible, and that was the point of Black Flag.
Superb.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Inimitable Greg Ginn November 29, 2002
Format:Audio CD
I love it! Nice to see some people here who think along the lines I do, bringing up for comparison "Ascension" from Coltrane's late period, and the guitarist Derek Bailey who collaborated with jazz avant-gardist Anthony Braxton. I was lucky enough to attend numerous Flag concerts, and '84 was the year they attained their technical, musical, and philosophical maturity. Sadly, it was the year the band peaked, as drivel like "Loose Nut" attests. But in their concerts and three 1984 releases, Black Flag forged a devastating meld of punk, metal, and free jazz, and articulated a rage against society, nature, consciousness, you name it. There is a paranoia in the closing three songs of "My War," for instance, that is not only interpersonal but metaphysical; if you don't believe me, listen to the words for yourself. Later I came to believe that what Werner Herzog undertook in his films, Black Flag tried to do in its music, to resist all the pressures and influences surrounding your life, to arrive at whatever genuine existence you have. Even if this project was flawed by circuitous reasoning from the start, there was a nobility in the effort.
This live album has the most of Greg Ginn, a supreme guitarist who got buzzes and pierces from his instrument like no one else I've heard. It has enough of Henry Rollins without too much, thank goodness, and the rhythm section of Kira Roessler and Bill Stevenson was the tightest the band ever had and played off Ginn the best. The album has a raw feel, and the songs simply feel less scripted than on their studio versions. It may be an unlikely candidate, but "Live '84" is probably Black Flag's shining moment of darkness. Glad to see it's on CD; it was first released on cassette only, and I've been hanging onto my tape, trying to preserve it for all these years!
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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars I didn't like it then, but I LOVE it now! January 3, 2005
Format:Audio CD
When this stuff....My War, Slip It In, and Live '84....cam out, I was one of those "punk rockers" who thought that Black Flag (and hell, ANY band that really learned how to play) had "sold out". Greg Ginn is the type of musician that could not simply keep on playing minimalistic chords, over-and-over, like the classic Jealous Agaim e.p. He had chops, man, and when My War came out, I listened to the album (um, it was actually on vynil) and I thought side one was decent enough, what with all of the paranoid/insane screaming on the song "My War" and the emotional agony expressed on "Can't Decide"...but then it got real, real SLOW (and slow was a "sin" back in the early 80's M.D.C./Verbal Abuse speed/hardcore/punk time), and well, the songs were all over 1:25 minutes long. Man, this just sucked, or so I thought. So I grabbed ahold of my old Black Flag albums, along with D.R.I. (before they became a metal band), Wasted Youth, Verbal Abuse, M.D.C., Free Beer, etc.

But NOW I realize that the mid-80's era Black Flag was actually brilliant, and Live '84 showcases a band that was way ahead of it's time in a lot of ways. You have it all here; the punk rock of "Nervous Breakdown", the sexual twistedness of "Slip It In", the suffocating atmosphere of "Black Coffee"....man, this cd has it all.

The sound quality is good too.

If you want to experience a band that was highly misunderstood within the confines of the hardcore punk scene in the mid-80's, then by all means, buy this! This is a soundtrack to the emotional state of most of us at the time, and byt the way, for those of you who are young; it "rocks"

Thanks!
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A great live album. February 26, 1999
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Format:Audio CD
Most people really hate the so-called heavy metal period of Black Flag, but this record, along with "My War," "Familly Man," and "The Process of Weeding Out," is more notable for its jazz aspects than its metal parodies. When I interviewed Ginn in '95 he mentioned that the electric distorted guitar should be played more like a saxophone than an acoustic guitar. Like Sonny Sharrock, who began as a frustrated asthmatic sax player, Ginn's solos are atonal and innovative. Only those who confine themselves to conservative bike messenger punk could possibly hear this as a metal record.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Live 84
One of the best, if not the best, albums from Black Flag. Great listening for any fan of one of the greatest bands to come from that time/genre.
Published 19 months ago by S. Perry
5.0 out of 5 stars This stuff is good
Live '84 was recorded on August 26, 1984 at the Stone in San Francisco on 8 track. The CD has 19 great Flag songs, the vast majority of them being from the Henry Rollins era. Read more
Published on August 5, 2009 by Joker
5.0 out of 5 stars A Fantastic Live Album!!
I love Black Flag and "Live 84'" is a great live album by them. It is filled with songs that have been classics from previouse albums. Just great stuff. Read more
Published on August 12, 2004 by BassPlayer138
5.0 out of 5 stars 20 years ago? No way!
By far, this is Black Flag's best. They never were much of a studio group, but once the songs found their way onto the stage, Ginn & Co. Read more
Published on May 20, 2004 by Jerry Call
5.0 out of 5 stars EXCELLENT!
HENRY ROLLINS AND GREG GINN LIVE AND RAW, ENOUGH SAID! Everybody says oh Damaged was Black Flag's greatest record, but I don't think so. Read more
Published on June 15, 2003 by Jonathan Parker
5.0 out of 5 stars If this is punk, gimme gimme gimme more...
I'll admit it, I'm a jazz fan, but I'm always up for hearing self-expression when done with thought, no matter the genre. Read more
Published on May 22, 2002
5.0 out of 5 stars I LOVE GINN GUITAR!!!!!!!
Forget about Henry "WWF" Rollins; the real star of the show is Greg Ginn. The sound of that guitar, solos that go nowhere, wrong notes, noise for the sake of noise... Read more
Published on May 4, 2002
4.0 out of 5 stars Sprawling, loud, great!
If Greg Ginn's long skronking guitar solos tick off punk purists, that's one advantage right there! Who cares about "T.V. Read more
Published on January 6, 2002
5.0 out of 5 stars It rocks, it slams, it's stoopid.
Brilliant. Brilliant brilliant brilliant.
For those who said it's not punk, it's too slow, to solo-ridden, too sludgy, I think you have a very narrow version of punk. Read more
Published on January 3, 2002 by SCOTT A GORDON
3.0 out of 5 stars live albums really aren't my thing
this is decent...the band's slower and more experimental side shows through a lot on this album. the instrumentals ('the process of weeding out' and 'i won't stick any of you... Read more
Published on December 11, 2001 by chris lea
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