257 of 278 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Good, but in desperate need of an overhaul.
I had the privilege of owning its predecessor several years ago, the G25, so I knew mostly what to expect with this new G27, but I was still expecting so much more from Logitech. The expression "Logitech giveth and Logitech taketh away" seems most pertinent.
So, let's start:
Opening the box and getting everything out is very simple. All the parts are...
Published on November 28, 2009 by I. R. Smart.
13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Save your packaging!!!
My G27 was great fun until the problems began. Like another reviewer on Amazon and several other owners on this thread on Logitech's forums [...] my wheel no longer keeps alignment. I posted video on youtube showing my problems (same as the other folks) and a link can be found on the logitech forum thread.
It appears that most of us with this problem...
Published on October 6, 2011 by Mark Alston
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257 of 278 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Good, but in desperate need of an overhaul.,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)
So, let's start:
Opening the box and getting everything out is very simple. All the parts are well designed, but you're immediately greeted with what I think is the biggest issue with the G25/27 set, - the cables. So many cables! 400 cables! (at least it feels like it)
The wheel has a cable coming out of it that goes into your PS3; the pedals have a cable coming out of it; the shifter has a cable coming out of it, and then there's the power brick that has a cable to be plugged in. All these cables plug into the wheel itself, and it's definitely not a pretty sight. I don't know about other people, but I don't have a place where I can leave my steering wheel/shifter/pedals plugged in 24/7, so setting all this up and putting it away again is a COMPLETE pain in the rear.
Putting the cable issue aside, there's a lot to like with the G27. It's an improvement over the G25 in many ways:
1.) The G27 wheel uses helical gears (or diagonal-cut gears) vs the G25's straight-cut gears. What this means is that there's a reduction in noise when turning the wheel, and it's also smoother while maintaing powerful force feedback! Great stuff!
2.) The shifter on the G27 no longer has a sequential mode (i.e. clicks up and down only), which is no big loss to me. I prefer either the regular 6-speed or using the paddle shifts on the wheel. While it may seem that this is still a LOSS compared to the G25's 6-speed AND sequential shifting, the new addition to the G27 is that the gears don't CLICK into place. On the G25, every gear change would greet you with a CLICK as the gear was put into place. Logitech have removed this sound so the gear movements don't hurt your ears with their plastic sounds as the G25 did. Now, some people have modified their G25 shifters to remove this sound, but it voids your warranty and I've read of several people irreparably breaking their shifters by doing this... In any case, for me, the G27 shifter is an improvement over the out-of-the-box G25 shifter.
3.) The pedals are now adjustable, which makes it a joy to heel-and-toe while racing. The pedal layout is a huge deal more comfortable than on the G25 pedals. This, for me, is a huge improvement. My right foot would get very uncomfortable with the G25 layout.
4.) There's a new set of tachometer LEDs on the wheel, though I've yet to play any game that supports them yet... It's a neat little feature, though, if it does as advertised.
5.) The G27 also has some more buttons on the steering wheel, which you can customize, of course.
So how does it play?
VERY well, depending on the software!
Need for Speed: Shift PS3:
I first tried out Need for Speed: Shift on the Playstation 3, and was pleasantly surprised to see that no setup is needed, and the controls just work. In fact, it even shows you a picture of the wheel/pedals on the control screen (albeit just the G25, but still...). It's great to have the wheel work out of the box with no tinkering. THAT said, there's perhaps too much force feedback in Shift to be particularly comfortable. The faster you get, the more the wheel fights with you. At 120mph, it's very hard to keep the wheel straight. I've track-driven several times at near 150mph speeds at times, and I can safely say my steering wheel doesn't fight me in real life like it did in the game...
So, for ease of use with Shift, I'd say 5/10. It's just too hard to keep the wheel straight at relatively high speeds...
Gran Turismo: Prologue PS3:
NOW we're talking. None of the fighting I experienced in Need for Speed: Shift, and plenty of smooth corners and subtle force feedback. It's fair to say the force feedback is a tad muted in Prologue, but it's infinitely more comfortable to play than Shift, and a real joy to hit those apexes time and time again. 9/10.
Overall, this wheel is excellent, but the pain of setting it up is just too much to ignore. It really is a cable nightmare. The wheel, pedals and shifter could easily be wireless by this point, meaning the only cable needed would be a power cable to the steering wheel for the force feedback to work. I suspect the inevitable G29 will remedy this, as the way the G27 currently works is a direct copy of the G25 which is 3 years old as of November, 2009.
Overall, though, a great wheel, if you can be bothered to go through the setting it up...!
Note: This wheel is for PC AND PS3.
66 of 69 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars G27 on PS3,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)Extremely well made, I bought both G27 and the GT wheel for comparison. At first I wasn't sure whether the $200 difference is worth it, until I tried both out. Played F1 championship, GT5 prologue, GT5 demo and Dirt 2. If you can foot the bill, G27 is hands down better. Better construction and quality (GT wheel has plastic pedals, G27 has metal paddle and pedals), feels more solid and the force feed back feels accurate and keen.
Another example of this being a well designed product is, on other wheels I've tried, the foot pedals are spring loaded with the same resistance. G27 however has different spring rate on the throttle and brake, which makes it extremely realistic. I'm not sure if that was software or hardware controlled but I like it.
There are problems with this wheel, it isn't fully supported by all the racing games in PS3.
For example, paddle shifting in GT5 prologue doesn't work (although GT5 HD when it comes out will work, GT5 demo works) so if I want to use manual shift in GT5 prologue I'll have to use the real 6 speed shifter, and I couldn't get the buttons to assign correctly in any of the games. So if I need to hit the PS button I actually need to use a controller. There is no documentation on what the default mapping is like (at least tell me where the PS button is, seriously). Paddle shifters do work in F1 champ, Dirt 2, so I'm not sure what the problem is with GT5.
None of the game shows G27 as an available steering wheel controller.
This is not supported on Xbox 360 but I'm curious and I'll test that out later.
35 of 40 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars PS3 - Racing Simulations are more realistic,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)
I have used this on a PS3 slim. Prior to this I had only driven Dirt 2 & Need for Speed: Shift by using my PlayStation 3 Dualshock 3 Wireless Controller. This often had me tapping the turn motion on one of the joysticks. This left alot to be desired if you were doing a slow left or right turn at speed it often caused the rear end to break loose and eventually I lost momentum or worse wrecked.
I am no stranger to the motto right tool for the right job. Back in the 80's I used to do flight sims on my pc with the keyboard. I dont know of too many pilots that fly that way so eventually I purchased a Yolk or joystick for fighter games. I knew a wheel would improve my driving because we drive that way it is a natural movement for us to achieve. I have used countless plastic wheels for driving games in the past. I had not however, used on on my PS3 because I just got it in September.
Now, just with everything quality counts. You can get a flimsy plastic wheel that will probably perform very close to this setup. You will not however get the amazing force feedback or leather covered wheel, tight shifter and more that makes this wheel stand hands above any I have ever used.
Force Feedback rocks:
I used to have one of the old Force Feedback joysticks from Microsoft back in the 90's. I could always out-strength it whenever I was pulling some maneuver somewhere. What is so awesome about the feedback here is it is really sensitive,yet at the same time very strong. Ill give you an example. When going into a turn it fights you like a real car will, ok I expected that. What I didnt expect is when airborne in a corner (like in Dirt 2) the wheel goes limp, like the wheels are actually off the ground and I have no resistance to turn. THAT IS FANTASTIC!
When playing with the standard controller I always played from a car down view like I was driving a remote controlled car. Now I always play in cockpit view. It has totally reinvigorated the way I play my driving games.
Now to the naggy stuff;
Cords- 4 to be exact that need to be run somewhere and often get all mixed up.
USB only, I really wish this had Bluetooth built in, might be worth a few more bucks to not have to sit on top of my television due to the shortish USB cord.
Dont see the point in the manual shifter, but it is a nice addition for if you like to shift that way. Most of the games I play don't use it so I wish I could ignore it all together but all of the PS3 buttons are on it.
Tips for ownership:
I am only reviewing this for PS3, The buttons above the shifter are (your X triangle and so on) the buttons below are your left side D pad buttons. The red buttons underneath are your start- select.
I have not found out what all the little ones on the steering wheel are for.
IMPORTANT: Do not have any controller set to #1 when you plug this in. The PS3 will assign it to number 2 and it will not work in any game. To be honest I often restarted the PS3 to get it to take the wheel as controller 1.
>> Very high quality
>> Accurate Feel
>> Adaptive force feedback
>> Brings old driving games back to life
<< Cords - too many and the one that you need most is too short (USB)
<< USB only (Fine for PC but annoying for PS3).
<< Complicated to move once its in place. Might have to buy a table specifically built for it.
Overall this is a TOP NOTCH accessory for your driving games. It will bring new life into all of your driving games. I recommend restarting them all at the beginning because you will suck once you start over with this new toy.
Thank you for reading my review.
57 of 70 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars G27,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)Pros: Well built. Leather wheel feels much better than plastic. Clutch, break, gas all have different push pressure. Feedback force feels great. I just hope the motor won't give up on me any time soon!
Paddle shifters made out of metal and when shifting they feel very durable and firm.
Installation was a breeze.
Cons: The leather is no BMW quality! However, as mentioned before, it's much better than plastic wheel.
The screws that attach the wheel and shift stick to the table are made of plastic and give impression if you screw them too hard they'll crack. But so far so good.
Lots of cables. But I just taped them together and it's now manageable.
Have no horn button?.. :)
I don't have much to say about manual shift stick. It feels alright but I don't use it in any games( takes longer to shift), only paddle shifters.
I've never tried g25, so I can't compare them but judging from the pictures, extra buttons on g27 give a bigger advantage.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with this product.
Games played with G27: iRacing, NFS Shift.
13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Save your packaging!!!,
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This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)My G27 was great fun until the problems began. Like another reviewer on Amazon and several other owners on this thread on Logitech's forums [...] my wheel no longer keeps alignment. I posted video on youtube showing my problems (same as the other folks) and a link can be found on the logitech forum thread.
It appears that most of us with this problem experience it quite soon after purchase. If I had kept the packaging, like I should have, I would simply return it to amazon for replacement. However, right now I am dealing with the somewhat slower return process through Logitech.
Now, should you purchase a different wheel? Well, take some time like I did and google the rest of the pack (Thrustmaster, Fanatech) and you will find that all the wheel manufacturers have defective wheels going out to customers and all three have both very negative and very positive reviews of customer support and the RMA process. In addition, it appears that most folks with failures on any of the wheels discover them within a month. So keep the packaging for any of them. I still think that this wheel is a bargain comparatively and unless my replacement also craps out I will stick with this model. At least until the Fanatec Clubsport comes out but that one is big $$$.
In review, this wheel would get 4 stars from me if it was still working great and 1 star if the replacement also has the same problem.
13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Great Compliment to GT5,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)I got GT5 on the first day it came out. Then there was this deal where you could stack coupons to get the Logitech G27 for basically under $250 shipped. I jumped on board thinking I'd sell it if it wasn't fun ($250 is a lot of money). Turns out I love it. I purchased a steering wheel stand i believe prowheelstand.com and I made a seat setup out of an extra racing seat I have.
I've used other steering wheels but this is a good 5 years ago so I don't have too much to compare to. In GT5 all the features you need work including the LED lights for Rev Counter. The LEDs on the steering wheel are completely useless since I look up at my TV screen a bit and it's easier to use the images from GT5. The clutch is a bit finicky. I drive stick a lot and I've missed a few shifts here and there. It wants you to push the clutch in completely to execute a shift. What I find neat is that you can actually STALL your engine if it's in first and you pop the clutch too quickly. You then have to press the clutch, and press the gas pedal to start the engine again. I love it!
I play with the force feedback at maximum and it's great. the steering feel is pretty realistic. When the car jumps in the air, the steering wheel gets light then heavy when it touches on the ground. When you hit a wall or drive over rumblestripes, you feel it under your wheel. When you play or drive in a drift/dirt, you feel the pebbles through the wheel.
I like how the pedals are adjustable, and how the brake pedal gets stiffer as you press further. The quality of materials is excellent. The pedals are real metal, the shifter and wheel have a nice synthetic leather that rivals what you see in real cars. One thing is I wish the shifter had more of a positive feel when you shift. Also going into reverse reminds me of my S2000. You have to press down on the shift knob, then move to where 6th gear would be. Uber Cool.
Overall if you log many hours on GT5 or other driving games, then get this. It makes the experience 10x better. I have not compared how I am driving this compared to the standard controller, but i don't care, this is just more fun
19 of 23 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars It's okay, but common defect still present,
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This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)I read a lot of reviews before selecting this wheel, and as a new product (that is, for the first couple weeks I've had it), it worked great. Mostly playing GTR Evolution. Then, slowly over the past couple weeks, it does not center itself when it calibrates on system startup, or when you reset the wheel by unplugging it/powering down. It grows more and more off-center with each calibration/use, such that it's now very awkward to use the paddle shifters. I can still use the wheel in the now-awkward configuration, and the feedback is still good and it tracks very well in gameplay, albeit with an off-center calibration. The pedals are taut and substantial, and they seem to stay pretty well-grabbed onto the carpet. The gearshift set is adequate (feels a bit lightweight.) The lack of centering has become more annoying and troublesome as the days go by, and I'm finished dealing with it. If it were only off by 1/4 to 1/2 inch from center, and didn't get any worse, I wouldn't be bothered by it. Now, though, it's about 45 degrees off-center.
I read up on the problem, and it cropped up more than a year ago -- reported by many people on the logitech support forums. I've only had the wheel for a month, so I'm a bit disappointed that they didn't fix the problem by now. There are all kinds of blog posts from people who have taken the wheel apart to fix the problem, but this seems like a bit of a crapshoot and it voids the warranty, so I'm not going to do that. I plan on reaching out to amazon for an exchange, as this is clearly a defective product. I'm disappointed a little bit by logitech, as I've had very good experiences with their other peripherals, but this one is suffering quality issues that have cropped up very quickly. I've had the wheel only a month, and I'm pretty gentle with my equipment, so it's not a user problem.
Oh well. It's a good wheel that I'd ordinarily be very happy with if I didn't get a defective one. Hence, I give it an "OK" rating. If you buy this wheel, save the box and packing materials for at least a few months. You may need them, to send it back. I'm glad I saved mine.
12 of 14 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Simulator grade wheel/pedals/shifter - perfect for LH or RH drive!,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)
I've purchased and used the Logitech G25 in the past, as well as the Logitech Driving Force GT. Based on my experience with those products, I decided to split this review into three portions, each focusing on a primary element of the G27. I tested the G27 using SimBin's GTR2, Race 07 WTCC, and GTR Evolution in Vista Business 64-bit edition.
The G27 pedals offer limited adjustments via the use of a 2.5mm hex key/allen wrench. By removing the 2 screws of any of the pedals, the user can change the spacing of the pedals to suit the size of their feet or for easier heel-toe downshifts. By comparison, on modern cars, the brake pedal and throttle pedal tend to be spaced so far apart that it becomes difficult to execute a proper heel-toe downshift.
The actual pedals are made out of stainless steel and the edges are all deburred. The round "friction dots" are actually just part of the plastic backing plates. They're not actually rubber or polyurethane like the ones used on real cars. The angles of the pedals are rather steep, as it was uncomfortable for me to use for long durations. The user must adjust their seat and desk/table for a proper driving posture. The pedals are also sitting well in the middle of the base unit which can present problems on certain desk arrangements.
The resolution of the pedals is very crisp in my driving games. I could tip the throttle as needed to control a drift or limit the amount of wheelspin. My DFGT pedals started to act weird after a year and didn't offer the same amount of sensitivity or resolution. Overall, the G27 pedals are a slight improvement over the ones used in the G25 mainly due to the available pedal spacing adjustment. The only recommendations I'd make to Logitech would be to push the pedals farther back if possible, use rubber/polyurethane dots for better grip (and realism), and *maybe* consider including a dead-pedal platform to rest the clutch foot.
My biggest complaint about the G25 shifter was that it felt like a toy shifter. There was an excessive amount of play and it didn't feel realistic at all. The G27 shifter removes the option to use it as a sequential, but otherwise keeps everything else almost the same. There's quite a few buttons and even a directional pad to offer various on-the-fly adjustments while racing.
The G27 still does not provide enough resistance in each gear while shifting through the gates. As-is, the G27 shifter feels about the same resistance as any car that is either idling or shut off. You can easily shift through the gears effortlessly. While driving any car that has a synchronized manual gearbox, there's quite a bit of effort to go into the gears at wide open throttle because it takes time for the synchros to match speeds. With the G27, you're easily clicking through the gears at WOT which doesn't feel right. It just feels too sterile. In addition, shifting into reverse is quite difficult at times due to the need for pushing down the shifter.
As many drivers know, almost every manual gearbox has a slightly different way of shifting into reverse especially with the 6 speed gearboxes. Some require you to push down the shifter and move to the left gate of 1st gear, some require lifting a lockout ring, etc... From a design standpoint, I don't see how Logitech could have done it differently and still satisfy a large number of users - it works fine as-is, but it takes some getting used to. However, I can tell you this - the G27 shifter feels a lot better than the actual shifter used on the 2008-09 Mazdaspeed3!
The only recommendation I'd make about the shifter is to increase the amount of resistance through each gear to simulate what the real synchronized gearboxes go through when you're racing. As-is, it feels fine for normal driving, it just feels a bit too sterile for speed shifting or powershifting.
The best wheel I've used has to be the Driving Force GT. It's not as sleek as the G25/G27 wheel, and it has a poorly implemented "paddle shifter" setup. However, the numerous buttons, knobs, horn button, etc... work very well for a lot of racing games. The red knob resembles the Manettino knob used on the Ferrari's. The G27 improves on the G25 by including a few more buttons, the use of helical cut gearing, a LED tachometer
The stainless steel used for the wheel itself and the paddle shifters is high quality. I did not see any blemishes nor did I find any burrs. They deburred or radiused all of the edges to prevent cuts, and the paddles feel extremely sturdy.
The additional buttons come in handy, but I wish they added more buttons and include a few dials/knobs ala the Driving Force GT. I recall an interview they conducted at Logitech where the Driving Force GT designer said they applied lessons learned from the G25 to make the DFGT wheel even better. It looks like whoever designed the G27 ignored the lessons learned or wasn't able to include them on the G27 for whatever reason.
The helical cut gearing quiets down the unit when you steer. The traditional spur gear design allows for better torque handling but are extremely noisy and makes your steering wheel sound like a cheap toy. The G27's helical cut gearing is almost silent and gives much better feedback. I was able to tell exactly when my 550 Maranello was over-rotating on the track and able to correct it rapidly. The G25 and Driving Force GT feel vague by comparison.
The LED tach indicator is a great idea in theory, but it sits too far down for me to even use it while driving my sim games. The LEDs aren't bright enough and the adjustment is not available through the profiler software. For Race07 and GTR Evolution, I had to go into the profile.rcs (profile is the name of your profile) file and change the G27 LED Range Low setting down to about 0.20 so that it would actually light up at lower RPMs. This file is located in your Documents\SimBin\Race07\Userdata\Controlset\ folder. However, it still maxes out around 5500 RPM. It would be nice if there was a simpler way to tell it that I want each LED to represent 2000, 4000, or 6000 RPM or whatever resolution I desire, or perhaps tell it directly what the limits are and let it sort out the resolution. The Reprogrammable Performance Display in the 2008-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged allows you to change the min and max for the tachometer VU/bar meter and it works beautifully. The G27 LED indicator just doesn't work as cleanly, and its hardly visible to me unless I look down at my wheel. Some users may have special seating arrangements that move the wheel higher so their peripheral vision picks up the LEDs, but they're not very bright to begin with. A setup similar to the BMW Performance Steering Wheel works much better where the bars are integrated into the wheel itself at the top 2 quadrants (9 to 12, and 12 to 3).
I realize that a lot of people tweak the FFB settings and steering ratios to get the right feel. Logitech's documentation is very poor when it comes to this. I wish they would release some recommended settings for a few games so it eliminates the guess-work. PC users aren't strangers to tweaking and adjustments, but Logitech would attract a larger group of users if they made things simpler (like the G9x, set and forget, no drivers needed). Anyhow, the settings I normally use:
**Profiler - 540-630 degree lock, FFB enabled, 100%, enable centering at 0% force, allow game to change
**SimBin games - 50% sensitivity for everything, no speed sensitivity. FFB - maximum setting, 50%-75% force, reverse effects
**SimBin cars - set a steering ratio for about 15-18:1. Calculate steering ratio: [Wheel rotation/2] / steering lock. The wheel rotation is the # of degrees you set in the Profiler, and the steering lock is the adjustment setting within the game for your car. A 630* rotation with a steering lock of 21 degrees gives you a ratio of about 15:1, which is about the same as the real Nissan GT-R and 2005-2009 Mustang GT. See what I mean about tweaking and adjustments? I'm not an Apple fanatic, but Steve Jobs would never let this fly with an Apple product. It'd be a bit more user friendly. Granted, it's not easy to achieve this particular goal because of different racing game interfaces although it'd be something to aspire towards.
The cable management remains tricky on the G27. I had problems keeping all of the cables tidy on the G25 and the G27 wasn't any better. The wires kept popping out of the guides, so I used clear tape to "seal" them in and make it neater. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to detach everything in case I need to use the top of the desk. I'd have to take off all 3 units at the same time and that becomes a hassle if I had to do it a few times a day. It's best to set up your G27 on a semi-permanent basis. The A/C adapter isn't too shabby on the G27. Instead of being a huge brick that hogs up 8 spaces on a surge suppressor, it's similar to the A/C adapters used on laptops.
Pros: Some definite improvements over the G27. Solid construction, sturdy feel, the best simulator-grade hardware you can buy that is also affordable.
Cons: Shifter needs to have a bit more resistance at each gear to simulate what the gearbox is doing while powershifting or speed shifting (very abusive on a real synchronized manual gearbox), the pedals could use a bit more grip (e.g. rubber/polyurethane dots), cable management can be a nightmare if you expect to use the desk for normal projects/work as well as gaming
Overall: A solid 4 out of 5 stars. I'd give it 4.5 just because it was a worthwhile improvement over the G25, but I still think there's room for improvement like Manettino knobs and more buttons on the wheel itself.
I didn't think of this at first, but you can move the shifter over to the left of the wheel to simulate RH drive cars (Japan, Europe, Australia). Then when you're in the mood for LH drive, move the shifter to the right of the wheel. I also used my Brother P-Touch 1880 to print a bunch of thermal labels to identify the functions of the various buttons in my racing sims.
9 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Everything but the G-s,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)I'd had my Logitech Driving Force GT for quite some time before I realized it was time to trade up to the top of the line: the Logitech G27. What makes the G27 better than the GT is the huge leap from the GT's "manu-matic" up-down shifter to a proper clutch and six-position gear box. I don't get to log a lot of hours in the sims, but if there's one thing I've learned, it's that being able to downshift from 5th to 3rd while pulling the e-Brake can be the win-or-lose difference that the GT's up-down shifter lacks. I could still use my Driving Force GT for playing NASCAR Racing because the tracks are typically high-speed circles (and god help you if you skip a gear), but for anything else, the gearbox is a huge must. It's a real rush being able to downshift through various Dirt, Need for Speed, and other titles.
Physically, the G27 feels more solid than the GT, substituting aluminum and leather for the GT's plastic. The wheel's crossbar and the shifter paddles are aluminum. The wheel, shifter, and boot cover are leather, and the whole thing is bristling with buttons. Unlike the GT's PlayStation-centric button mappings, the G27's steering-wheel buttons have a layout like the MOMO, which is a smart move given how many people graduate up from the MOMO to the G27. The unit containing the wheel is separate from the gearbox, which means tons of flexibility for mounting the parts in any cockpit configuration you like. The main unit branches out its wiring, running two long cords for the gearbox to the right and two down leftwards to the pedals. From the pedals goes the power cable that has a long cord for plugging into an outlet. If you have to stow the set in between racing sessions, the wheel and gearbox are hand-screwed onto the edge of a desk or coffee table via clamps that grab from the underside. The pedals will slip and slide on a smooth floor, but have fold-out teeth that will grab onto carpet. All three pieces have threaded holes for anyone wanting to screw the parts onto some home-crafted handiwork (my neighbor built his own wheeled wooden cockpit with a Honda seat).
I've driven quite a number of cars in real life. I've personally owned:
- a '65 Ford Mustang
- an '87 Camaro Z-28
- a '97 Eagle Talon AWD
- an '83 Mercedes Coupe 380SL
- an '07 Subaru STI
I regularly shoot through winding country roads and enjoy the feel of a real vehicle--within safe limits. Driving the G27, I can safely push past those limits...and I can tell you that the only thing missing from the real thing are the G-forces. Wheel resistance is firm, the pedals each feel slightly different, and the short-throw shifter makes changing gears a breeze. There's even a way to program "Reverse" into your games just like a real vehicle--where my STI has the lift-up ring, the G27 has you push down and reach for 6th gear--it counts as a different 'button press' than 6th gear.
There is one huge drawback to the G27, and I lay it at the feet of the game designers: the support. Games like Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit came out with no support for driving wheels, shocking the racing game community. Months later, a patch remedied the situation, but by then the damage was done: those of us who love racing games are seeing titles come out with no steering wheel support (Blur, I'm looking at you). Thankfully, Logitech does everything it can to try to meet games halfway: if you're on the PS3, support is fairly native, but the gearbox may or may not factor into your games. If you're on the XBox 360, the story may be the same (haven't tried it myself). PC gamers are on the safest ground: Logitech's free software not only supports Windows 7 and Vista in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, it also allows you to hand-program the wheel a lot of different ways. Settings can be mapped to keystrokes, keystroke combinations, or macros that combine more than one button or axis (or combination). You can make your settings global to every use of the wheel, or game-specific, and those settings can get as granular as level of force feedback, percentage of resistance, degrees spin of the wheel, dead zone and more. There are a lot of sites out there giving advice for specific game configurations (I'll give you a great one in the comments), and there's even settings that can 'fool' a game into giving you additional support. The gearbox is really the rub, though, and you want to check the Logitech site first for the list of officially-supported games (I'll put that in the comments too).
If you love driving and know how to work a clutch, do yourself a favor and spring for the G27: you'll be glad you did. Support is somewhat limited, but for those games that support it, the G27 is everything but the G-s.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Logitech's best wheel,
This review is from: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel (Personal Computers)I purchased the Logitech G27 mainly to play Gran Turismo 5. I have played on Logitech's other newer wheels, the Driving Force GT and the Driving Force Pro and the G27 blows them out of the water. The force feedback motor is much more precise and powerful. This helps in the game to feel the wheel pull and loss of traction. Its power can be a little much at times, causing a gear slap which can be annoying, but in general, the force feedback is amazing. In comparison to other Logitech wheels mentioned before, the force feedback is quite a bit more realistic.
One of the best parts of the G27 are the pedals. Not only is this wheel one of the few wheels that has a clutch pedal, but the brake and gas pedals are awesome. The brake has a good amount of resistance and requires quite a bit of force to move the pedal. This gives more of a realistic feel compared to other wheel pedals. The only downside to the brake and clutch pedals are the lack of progressive resistance, which is the feeling of increased resistance on the brake and decreased resistance on the clutch. Progressive pedals are expensive to make and are only available on very expensive PC sim racing pedals.
The shifter is another great feature on this wheel. It is a 6 speed shifter plus reverse gear. This shifter is an improvement from the convertible shifter in the G25 which feels sloppy and loose. The shift feel is tight but could use firmer springs to give a more realistic feel. The one thing I don't like about this shifter, is the reverse gear. To engage it, you have to press down on the shifter and move it into the 6th hear position. If you use the paddles to shift, the only way to get into reverse is to press the triangle button (top button on shifter housing) or engage the clutch and shift into reverse.
The buttons on the G27 leave something to be desired. The quantity of buttons are great but their size and location are not. This problem is amplified in Gran Turismo 5 because the buttons cannot be remapped. None of the buttons have markings, making it hard to identify. The buttons on the wheel are small, close together and all the same shape. This makes it hard to press the correct button while driving. The paddle shifter buttons are the redeeming buttons. They are in a great position you know when you have pressed them.
The materials and build quality are top notch. The wheel is wrapped in genuine leather and the wheel is made out of brushed stainless steel. The shifter boot and shift knob are also wrapped in leather which is a nice feature. The clamps are great at securing the wheel and shifter to various surfaces. Both the shifter and the wheel have permanent mounts which are great of you don't plan on moving the wheel at all. The pedals unfortunately do not have a good system to keep them in place except the permanent mounts. At times, the amount of wires can be a nuisance to deal with. It is easier to deal with if you have the wheel permanently mounted.
Overall the G27 set is an amazing wheel and really improves game play in racing games. It has some features that weren't developed as well as they could be, but overall the wheel is top notch. Here are some of the Pros and Cons:
Force Feedback Power and Precision
Pedal resistance and feel
Gate shifter feel
Paddle Shifter feel and placement
Includes a clutch pedal
Lack of progressive pedals
Reverse gear mechanism
Lack of button identification/differentiation
One caveat is that the wheel is not supported with GT5 so there are some issues with that. First and foremost, the buttons cannot be remapped causing some difficulties with controlling things while racing. The other big issue is that the pedal does not have the pressure sensitivity that it does in other games, causing the wheels to lock up when you press the brake at all. All of these issues are due to GT5 not supporting the G27, not Logitech's fault. Even though these issues are present, I still feel the G27 is the best Logitech wheel currently sold.
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