Customer Reviews

Logitech QuickCam Deluxe for Notebooks (Silver)

5 star:		(79)
4 star:		(69)
3 star:		(23)
2 star:		(8)
1 star:		(15)

 

 

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Just like the 5000 series cameras before these (the "9000" series), Logitech has built a camera that puts out superb video (this one's video is better than the 5000 series, and those were better than the 4000 series).
However, the software, lack of control, and enormous pile of bloatware that gets installed with the camera, coupled with its enormous system resource demands, make this another clunker.

Environment:
P4 2.4 GHz processor
Windows XP Pro SP 2
DirectX 9c
USB 2.0

First, the good:
Color and picture quality are outstanding (although focus is not good - more on this below). The new support for large quasi-hi-def picture sizes produces amazing images.

Now, the bad:

Machine resources:

You better have a FAST machine. And I mean FAST, like a Core 2 Duo, or forget it. A simple 320x240 capture/preview (not even writing the video to disk) sucks down 10% more CPU on a P4 2.4 GHz machine with Windows XP Pro, than the old 4000 series cameras did.

Holy cow --- a 2-way 30 fps 352x288 video conference with the older 4000 series camera would use 55% CPU on my test machine. With this camera, it's about 80% and that's with auto focus, auto-white-balance, auto everything turned OFF and NOT using the audio from the camera.

This is just like the 5000. And just like the 5000 series, once THIS camera's driver has been installed, even the older 4000 Logitech camera now uses CPU like a pig (this thing overwrites DLLs that the older cameras also use).

I've been down this road before. The only way to make the older camera work efficiently again will be to completely uninstall this thing, and reinstall the old driver.


Support for other applications:

I only test these cameras using Amcap and Vidcap32 (the ubiquitous, standard, simple, generic Windows capture apps) and our own custom-written videoconferencing code that I wrote myself. So I have nothing to say about Skype, IM, etc.

Just like the 5000 series before this one, this camera DOES support the proper DirectX interfaces. So if Skype or some other app is freaking out on you, it is not this camera's fault. It is Skype, or whatever app you are running. My code works just fine with it.

But... just like the 5000 series, if you install the "driver only" (to spare yourself the bloatware), half the camera's functions will be broken.
When I installed it driver-only, it would only do about 10 fps, in any kind of light, with any picture size, no matter how I set it.
After I installed their obnoxious applications, it snapped into shape and would obey settings to do 30 fps.

Bloatware:
It installs services and several auto-startup pieces of junk that you have to hunt down in the "Run" folder in the registry and delete. Otherwise, every time you log in, you will have these things running, and the tray icon app, and two other apps, will always be running. No matter what you do, these will always restart unless you ditch them from the registry and the services control panels.

Their apps also "phone home" to Logitech periodically, registering your purchase and checking for updates. (Yes, it does, I sniffed the network traffic.) If you don't mind Microsoft and Logitech spying on you and connecting you to machines without you even knowing it, fine. Personally, I find that behavior deplorable.

If you are a programmer (like me), you can get rid of this junk. But if not, you are stuck with this stuff hogging down your machine all the time.

Focus:

The auto focus function works, but overall, this camera's focus is poor. Whether on auto or manual, it cannot focus well on objects that get more than about 2 feet away from the camera. They probably honed the focussing algorithm expecting you to be sitting close to the camera. That's a reasonable assumption, but it's too close-focussing. Even sitting at a normal distance from a PC monitor, it just cannot focus sharply on my face. It also has AWFUL focussing at the edges of the picture no matter what.

Conclusion:
Great video, but poor focus.

If you are just an ordinary user who plugs junk into their PC and doesn't even know what CPU usage is, and you are using a hot fast Core 2 Duo processor, this camera will do a good job for you, as long as you don't sit too far back from the camera.
If you already let Microsoft spy on you with all their automatic junk turned on all the time, then you probably won't mind Logitech doing that to you to.

(Hope you like Windows Media Player opening ports in your home router without telling you ---- didn't know they did that, eh?)

I use Skype a great deal and I wanted a webcam that I could take on the road with the laptop and that would fit easily in the laptop bag. This is the one! It's quite small and my correspondents have been very impressed with the image it takes. They say it is as good as any camera they've seen, including the large ones on desktop PCs.

I like this camera because it is quite small, portable - it fits in the palm of your hand. As the name implies, it is intended for clipping onto laptop screens - there is no good way to get it onto a tripod like some of the desktop models. The portable factor also means a short USB cable - good for travel, not so great if you wanted to clip this thing on your flatscreen at home with a desktop. In that case, you'll need a male-female USB extension cord. A small mesh sack rounds out the package, allowing you to store the cam safely during travel.

I am very happy to report that this camera works fine with Skype on an Intel Mac running OS X 10.5.2 - I did install the free sourceforge Mac Cam driver but that may have been unnecessary. Skype found the camera (See Preferences / Video) and the only other thing then to do is to tell Skype to use the microphone on the Camera (See Preferences / Audio) instead of a line-in microphone. Thus, even a mac mini can be turned into a conference center.

Like most web-cams, the picture quality is so-so, particularly if you are in a high-contrast environment (i.e. it's daytime with a window behind you). The logitech software allegedly can do something about that but since this camera is not officially supported, I didn't even bother. Instead, I opted to invest in iGlasses, a very functional and easy-to-use piece of shareware that adjusts contrast, brightness, etc. for most web-cams very, very well.

So, overall I am happy with this product. What would make it a 5-star is if Logitech abandoned its in-house software and bundled iGlasses with its Mac-centric stuff instead.

This webcam is vastly better than the MacAlly webcam I bought before I got this one. It works with Mac OS X 10.4.9 and greater without installing any software. My only wish is that it actually came with OS X software to adjust the brightness and contrast, because it really doesn't work well in low light without some adjustment. Fortunately, I already had a piece of software that will adjust those settings. I have recommended this camera to several friends, and I haven't heard any complaints yet.

Works perfectly on XP! I'm only using it for Skype, so I didn't install all the software, just the drivers -- Skype can handle it from there. The anti-echo feature works well, so it can be the mike instead of having to use a headset. And, a greatly appreciated feature: the item is packaged in one of those usually bombproof plastic shells, but there is a corner one can bend back and a set of perforations, so it is easy to remove from the packaging without the use of large cutting tools and copious profanity.

using it for a week. works right away on XP desktop, XP Laptop, and Vista Laptop without installing any driver/software and worked with all the IMs using that's include MSN, Yahoo, and Skype.
Satisfied with the quality of web cam for the money.

Great camera for Skype, lots of nice controls for XP using Logitech's drivers. The "no installation" Windows drivers are not as nice. It works with OSX 10.4 out of the box using Skype, but lacks the nice brightness and color control that the XP drivers give but the quality was still nice. It even worked in Linux with Ubuntu 7.10 using Skype, having both the camera and microphone recognized out of the box!

I got this camera for $50 and there is this $30 mail-in rebate. I believe it is a good value for $20. I am using it with Windows Vista Business + Skype or MSN Messenger. It works plug and play so I do not recommend installing logitech's software which will take up space and will annoy you by opening up each time you access the device. You'll have to disable this software etc. eventually. A huge problem I have is the on-camera microphone. It eats up the cpu, so you have to go "control panel -> sound" and disable it. Then pick another microphone for sound from skype's settings. Picture and color quality is great though which is the main purpose of this camera anyways!

Overall I would highly recommend it to anybody who needs a small webcam to carry around which easily installs and works with XP.

This is just a quick review: the price for the camera with MIR for ten bucks was unbeatable.
Installed just the drivers on my company Laptop (didn't want to install all the other software you don't really need). The installation program gibes you the option to just install the drivers, I liked that.
Win XP has no problems recognizing it and it work perfectly with Skype. Te camera with the carrying pouch is really small so perfect for keeping it in your briefcase/laptop bag all the time.
The picture quality is not outstanding but for that price I don't expect HDTV quality, I just want to be able to share some video when talking on Skype.