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Logitech diNovo Edge Keyboard (Black)

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So who spends almost $200 on a keyboard that doesn't even have a number pad? Well, I do...

If you are in the market for a good utilitarian cordless keyboard to use, this might not be the best choice. But if you like unique, stylish computer gear, that still works well, then this makes a nice addition to your desktop. Even if you don't get a chance to show it off to your friends, you'll enjoy looking at it sitting in its charging stand, or on your desk. It must hold a pretty good charge, because I've only charged it once in the month that I've had it. So if you're thinking the charger is too cumbersome to take with you on a trip, you don't have to worry about it; you won't need it. And at about 1/2" thick, it won't take up much space in your bag.

You could hook it up using the built-in bluetooth in your computer, but unless you're starved for USB ports, the receiver is about the size of a small flash drive (unlike the previous DiNovo Desktop). It connects instantly too, so you won't spend ages trying to figure out why it's not connected.

The trackpad is a small circlular affair, positioned off to the right, so you won't be constantly hitting it like the pads on most laptops. Only southpaw mousers will suffer from this layout. And scrolling with the pad works surprisingly well.

A few drawbacks are the lack of a number pad. You don't even get the typical fn + keys to enter numbers, which could have been easily included, but wasn't. And the fn key is to the right of the spacebar, which is opposite from what most people are used to using. Other than that you get a full set of keys (except the number pad). Plus nicely placed zoom buttons, volume control, and media keys, and a nice oversized delete key.

Keystrokes are short, but give reasonable tactile feedback. I'm not a very good typist, but I don't think those who are will find much to complain about.

And depending on your computer you can lay it right on top of laptop keyboard. Or use it from across the room.

I was worried that I would be sacrificing usability for style and looks, but it turned out not ot be the case.

I give the diNovo top marks in all respects. This is one of Logitech's success stories, unlike some of their products.

I'm very pleased with this purchase.

update 03/01/07 Since I just got a MacBook I thought I would update my review with some new info. Logitech does not support this keyboard for use with Macs (when you open Logitech Control Center, similar to Setpoint but for Macs), it won't recognize the keyboard. But that doesn't mean it won't work. Mac's bluetooth recognizes and pairs the kb instantly, and almost all functions work. What doesn't work is the set of buttons on the left (which I don't use anyway). And the fn+function keys don't work either as far as I can tell (the function keys themselves do work, and F12 works as an eject button for the DVD drive). But the mousepad works the same, as does the volume control, and the 'windows' key functions as the 'apple' key.

In addition, if you flip up the legs, the DiNovo will fit perfectly over a 17" MackBook Pro. So if you have a Mac and this keyboard, you won't have to put it aside till Logitach decides to support it.

I would also assume that third parties will come out with drivers or whatever might be needed to fill the void.

I feel like the Grinch after reading all the gushing reviews of this thing, but it's only a good keyboard, not a religious experience.

Yes, it's thin, nicely styled, and most of all has a wonderful feel--keys are silent, have a short throw, and have no play or sloppy feel. Every stroke feels sure and positive. It has the feel of a laptop keyboard on a desktop computer--best of both worlds.

But the layout is distinctly nonstandard, even whimsical. There is no 10-key number pad, which others have noted rather casually. I've never done a spreadsheet in my life, but I miss it even for entering phone numbers, addresses, charge card numbers, every number in everyday use is amazingly awkward without it. "Delete" has grown to double size, and the whole Home/End/Page up/Page down cluster is configured to guarantee some unwelcome surprises, for no reason that I can imagine. "Page up" is not at the top of the cluster; that space is given to the perky, promoted "End" key. Don't bother to look for the "right-click" context menu key to the right of the space bar as on every other keyboard I've ever seen in the world. It's not there or anywhere else. Its place is taken by an "Fn" key, also in a nonstandard location, which serves to reveal extra functions for F1-F12 keys, some programmable, most not, and "Scroll lock" and "Pause/B" keys, hidden secondary functions of "Insert" and "Print screen" respectively.

The software is disappointing: First it froze on installation, and required a second installation. Then its help file (the only documentation that exists--printed material is SO 20th century) turned out to be not specific to this product, but generic to Logitech products. One has to plow through all manner of irrelevant material to pick out what's relevant for this product. Sort of shabby for a flagship product with a flagship price.

Worse, it just doesn't do what it says it will. The "Media" hot key can be set to do one of various things, including popping up a mini-menu of media applications. So I created the menu, and assigned it to the key, but pressing the key doesn't display the menu. Instead, it starts the first program listed on the menu. That's a very different, less impressive function.

Having started the (wrong) media program, the keyboard's dedicated media control keys for Play/pause, Stop, Back, and Forward didn't work at all in it. By dedicated, I mean non-programmable; they are hidden functions of F5 through F8, entirely unmarked until pressing the "Fn" key reveals them as lit icons showing through the sleek black surface of the keyboard. Having revealed them, I have yet to make them actually work.

Both Logitech and (especially) Kensington have produced vastly superior programmable-key/button functions fifteen years ago for their mice. This isn't cutting-edge stuff, and still it doesn't work.

Oooh, almost forgot the amazing super-duper touch-disk! Why? Because it's nothing new or remarkable at all. It's a touch pad that's round instead of square, again to no obvious advantage. Its action is adjustable, both in mouse mode and in scroll speed. I've got touchpads from ten years ago with more impressive features, like an adjustable size for the scrolling part (outer margin of the surface), an option for a tap to be a double-click in one area, etc.

For a desktop computer, the wireless bluetooth feature is useless for me.

If this were a $50 keyboard, I'd recommend it for its touch, with a warning about all the nonstandard placements, and lack of number keypad, and defective software. For a list of $200, its failings become less tolerable.

(At the time of writing this review, I've owned this keyboard for about a month now.)

This is definitely a professional's keyboard. It's got a soft enough touch not to cause strain when you're typing for hours, but enough resistance, travel, and sudden reduction of resistance (I forget the proper term for how the key's resistance goes away once you've registered a keystroke) to allow you to type accurately. Being only 11mm tall, you don't need one of those cumbersome wrist rests -- your hands are barely above the table that you're typing on, so your posture is just naturally good. The keys are also a very good size -- I'm a touch typist (not trained; everyone becomes a touch typist if they type enough) and the keys are spaced very well to allow you to touch type without mistakes.

That the keyboard is pretty doesn't need further comment; it's also very solid. The first thing I noticed when I took it out of the box was that the keyboard was really solid. It may not be a cheap keyboard, but it's not made cheaply, either.

Thankfully the included receiver does bluetooth-to-usb conversion, so using the keyboard is simple plug-and-play, at least in Linux. (All of the keys work fine in Linux, there's still a bug in the mouse driver which disables the touch pad, but there will be a fix in USB mouse driver which fixes that, I believe -- a cursory google reveals at least one patch floating around.) I've never tried it in windows (I do embedded development in a Linux environment).

The battery life isn't an issue. Supposedly it can go a whole month on a single charge, but I can't fathom letting it go that long. As other commenters have noted, it looks good so good in its stand that when you finish for the day, you might as well put it there so that you have something pleasing to see when you start the next morning. Even so, I have gone close to a week without recharging it and didn't notice the slightest difference, so I believe the month-on-a-charge claim.

The bluetooth links is very reliable -- I've never missed a single keystroke. The touch-based volume control is really cool, and works quite well.

Oh, one other thing about it I love: instead of using an LED for caps lock, it beeps at you in one tone for turning caps lock on, and in another tone for turning caps lock off. I can't figure out who would use caps lock (and not a number pad) in the modern world, but as long as this mis-feature persists on keyboards, the beeping is extremely helpful for touch-typists who get a little sloppy with the left shift key.

In summary, I highly recommend this keyboard to any professional who can afford good tools. I'm very glad that I bought this keyboard.

I recently picked up this keyboard as an attempted replacement for my Adesso wireless keyboard with touchpad I've been using for control of my HTPC from the couch. This keyboard is good - but not good enough to justify the price premium, so it's going back to the retailer until I can find something better.

The good:
- Looks - it's beautiful (as you already know, and why you are interested).
- The keys are nice - very similar look, feel and layout to my Thinkpad - which is a good thing.
- The media launch buttons and zoom buttons are great for a HTPC
- Setup was a breeze - no configuration required to get the basic functionality working. And no missed keystrokes so far.

The not so good:
- The touchpad. It's ok - but at this price point it should be great. This was my main beef with the Adesso, and as this one is only incrementally better, it's not worth it. The scrolling features, which are, imo, one of the most important features of a touchpad, are difficult to use consistently.
- The size. The Adesso has it all over logitech on this one. This keyboard pretty much requires two hands, and the thing is huge (for a remote replacement). If you're using it on a desk, it probably won't be an issue. In the livingroom, however, I'd prefer if they were a little more thoughtful about the size.
- The media controls. As opposed to the Adesso, which has none, the few that Logitech gives you are nice, but there aren't enough of them! There is tons of extra space on this keyboard, so why are the bulk of these keys paired with the F keys which requires two hands to operate?? How about some dedicated keys?
- No backlight! Why on earth isn't the main keyboard backlit? I knew this going in to the purchase, but this keyboard is supposed to be cutting edge and top of the line. Backlighting should be mandatory for a keyboard marketed to HTPC users.
- The charging stand. I know it's a good looking piece of equipment, but please. I don't really care to show it off, and finding a permanent location that fits the keyboard in the cradle in my living room isn't easy. I'd prefer at least the option of just connecting via a cable.

Now look here. Disregard all those one- and two- (and three- and four-) star reviews. If you immediately order anything shiny that scrolls past your screen, you might not know what you're getting with this keyboard. If you did your research, however, you will not be disappointed once you make the decision to buy Logitech's latest wireless solution. As a professional writer, I can tell you that the diNovo Edge is a well-organized, well-designed unit tailor-made for those interested in their keyboards as an extension of themselves and as a primary (and indispensable) tool for the expression of thought. Writing is serious business, and the Edge is a serious keyboard.

The key layout is fairly standard, and will be comfortably accessible to anyone already used to the mini-/laptop-keyboard size and response. The keys depress silently and fluidly, and everything works seamlessly on XP. The programmable second-echelon F-keys are a nice touch, and their orange backlighting is eye-catching and practical. In all, you get 14 modifiable keys out the box; and F5 through F8 have the secondary function as media controls (back, stop, play/pause, forward). These will default to whatever media player you have open at the moment (or whichever you are using primarily in the foreground).

The trackpad makes the unit a very good all-in-one for any situation where you want to relax and type with the unit in your lap. Indeed, it takes some getting used to, but the vertical and horizontal scrolling functions are intuitive enough and work as expected (which is quite well). Intensive browsers and application-switchers will undoubtedly want a traditional wireless mouse to go with the set, but such is not actually necessary to get full mouse functionality. The volume slider is extremely responsive, and -- as one reviewer pointed out -- indeed makes you feel like Scotty working the transporter console.

Bluetooth's 30-foot range makes it viable for nearly any spot around your home-theatre, and charges last as advertised. That means that one full charge gets you two months of semi-continuous use, while quick-charging wiill give you one day for every five minutes in the cradle. However, you'll likely keep the thing in its dock a lot more than is actually necessary, because it looks so slick standing up for all to see.

Aesthetically, there are complaints of fingerprints being detrimentally noticeable. This is true, because the unit is cut from plexiglass and is black, giving it a slight mirror-effect. It comes with a cleaning cloth, though; and a quick wipe will tidy the keyboard right up. You know -- if you're having company or somehting.

After some study, I decided to switch from my old EluminX to the diNovo Edge, and I am pleased with every aspect of the change. Except that the Edge does not light up in the manner to which I've grown accustomed. Still, that's a moot point, because the Logitech's not an illuminated keyboard nor ever claimed to be. Perhaps future iterations will have that functionality, but as a "next-generation" keyboard, the Edge is the best I've seen anywhere to date.

I have so far put about 5000 words per day (for two weeks, roughly)through the thing and have had no problems.

And if you like orange, the entire back panel is that delightful color.

You will not be disappointed if you do your homework and decide the thing is right for you.

Hope this helps.

Overall I am impressed with the DiNovo Edge. It is a sleek and beautifully made product. Everything about it screams high-tech except for one thing, there is lag in the response from the touchpad and mouse buttons. In everyday web browsing and normal applications you would never notice, however when you try to play a game, even some simple flash games that require timing you will notice a fraction of a second delay that is neither consistent nor predictable. Sometimes a mouse press will happen almost immediately and other times it will lag perhaps a quarter of a second. I also loaded up Far Cry to test playing from my couch. Of course a touchpad is no way to play a first person shooter but the results were far worse than I had anticipated. Every movement was delayed and it was something like playing an online server with huge amounts of lag. It was literally impossible to aim with any precision.

Realistically this keyboard is not a gaming solution, nor is it advertised as one. I have a wired USB keyboard and mouse for when I want to play games and I would recommend you do the same if you are going to use the DiNovo Edge unless your multimedia PC is being used for movies music and simple browsing only. I did find it annoying that for instance if I wanted to play a flash game like Nanaca Crash from my sofa I needed to attach my Bluetooth mouse which incidentally cannot negotiate a connection with the bluetooth adapter that comes with the DiNovo.

Therein lies another problem, the Bluetooth adapter that comes with the DiNovo Edge apparently is hard coded to communicate only with the Edge and cannot be used as a general purpose Bluetooth hub. The situation is good for security reasons but creates a hassle because I need to plug in a seperate Bluetooth adapter for my Bluetooth mouse. I would simply configure the Edge to work on the other Bluetooth adapter except that one and the Bluetooth mouse travel with my notebook computer and are not always available. When I mad the purchase of the Edge I was hoping that because the Edge's packed in Bluetooth adapter uses the Widcomm stack that I would be able to use devices such as my Motorola H500 headset and perhaps sync with my Motorola Razor. Unfortunately to do so I would need to buy yet another Bluetooth adapter. You would think that for close to $200 Logitech would pack in a Bluetooth adapter without limitations. I've also been concerned that finding information about if the Bluetooth connection is encrypted has proven difficult and I still don't know if I should feel secure typing sensitive passwords on a wireless keyboard with such exceptional range.

Back to the pluses, the wireless range is excellent, battery life phenomenal, the touch pad though a bit small has excellent sensitivity and the sroll features are both interesting and innovative. The light up ring around the touchpad looks really neat plus it gives you feedback that you are pressing the touchpad and it gives you a target area to reach for when you are thumbing the pad in the dark. Something I've noticed is that when I'm using my notebook computer's touch pad I'm sometimes really missing the scroll features that the Edge offers. That is a sure sign that the scroll features are less gimmicky and more useful than I had first thought they would be. The scroll feature doesn't always seem to catch on the first try and on occasion I thumb too close to the scroll areas so I start scrolling instead of moving the pointer. Such mistakes are seldom detrimental but perhaps would occur less often if the touchpad were larger. The left and right buttons are located just beneath the pad and are shaped so that you can find them by feel pretty easily. There is an additional left click button to the left of the keyboard that is the one I find most comfortable to use while grasping the keyboard by it's sides to mouse around.
The volume slider is great, and the LEDs that trace your finger look awesome and offer excellent feedback that your commands are being received. Sometimes it doesn't catch on right away that I am pressing it. On occasion I'll find myself stroking the volume controller once or twice before the volume actually begins changing. I believe it is due to a buildup of finger oils which will accumulate quickly unless you fastidiously clean the DiNovo Edge after every use. I do believe that sometimes the driver lags some when you start sliding the volume, I haven't confirmed this because on the occasions where it has happened I wasn't looking at the DiNovo Edge to know if the LEDs were actually lighting up acknowleging my input. Maybe I miss the narrow controller because it is hard to see exactly where you need your finger to go to activate it in the dark. Interestingly I've also had the volume bar get activated from my shirt sleeve brushing against it if it's on the armrest of my sofa. Practically any object that so much as brushes the volume slider's hot zone causes it to activate.
The LEDs and the hidden function key lights are tops in terms of "gee whiz" coolness. I find that I use the function keys very little because of the inconvenience of having to hold the function key on the bottom row of the keyboard then hunting for the proper function up top. Most of the time it's easier to just point and click the equivalent command. The exception is the media controls when you don't want to pop out of full screen video. A function lock key would have been most welcome.
The keys themselves feel great and the key travel is adequate to make you feel like you are typing on a keyboard that is much heftier. I can't emphasize that if you are a writer or a web editor or a programmer this keyboard will impress you during those times when you are typing non-stop. Durability and build quality seem very good even though the right shift key clicks annoyingly if it's struck near it's right edge which is common if I am dragging files using my index finger and want to press shift with my thumb to move them instead of copying. I think it is a problem due to the key's width, it is second to the spacebar in that regard and probably has only 1 set of scissors supporting the key where the spacebar probably has 2 side by side.
The keyboard has a small onboard speaker so that when you power it on it makes a little beep along with a spectacular LED light show that has to be seen to be believed. The beeps are also useful as the keyboard makes two different tones for when Caps Lock is turned on and off. Gone are the days of typing in all caps without knowing it.
The glossy black and brushed aluminum look amazing. Even the bright orange back plate doesn't look out of place. The stand up charger is a space saver and looks equally attractive. The Edge is as much a showpiece and conversation piece as it is an input device. The stand up charger may seem pretentious but it does show off the Edge in all it's splendor. What it might also show off is every single place it's glossy face has been touched. The keys themselves weather dirt and oils well but the glossy face will leave steaks of oil if you simply brush a hand or finger against it. There is an included microfiber cleaning cloth that will get plenty of use. Keep it handy because you will want to use it often. I wish that Logitech had made some sort of effort to include the microfiber cloth into the design of the Edge. As things are I have the cloth laying beside the charger looking rather out of place. If the charger stand had a compartment for the cloth or better yet if there were a microfiber cloth built in to the back of the Edge it would be a much better solution than having the cloth floating loose.
I may sound like I'm quibbling over the small stuff but for such a high priced product you would expect this keyboard to be nearly perfect, but from that it falls a bit short. It's probably the best wireless all in one keyboard and touchpad solution on the market today, but there is still room for improvement. Highly recommended for multimedia PCs. For any other use I would expect the price to be prohibitive and a full keyboard/mouse solution would work better.

Since my Sony PS3 has a built in web-browser, I went looking for a sleek Bluetooth wireless keyboard that would enable me to surf the internet via my couch. And for you PS3 owners that have tried to surf the internet using the game controller and on-screen alphanumeric entry method, you can understand how cumbersome and time-consuming the process is. Furthermore, since using a wireless mouse on a couch sofa was less than ideal and probably wouldn't work well, I was also set on finding a keyboard that had a mouse built-in. The Logitech diNovo Edge is the solution to my web-browsing issues. It is very sleek, very cool, and works flawlessly with a PS3. In fact, the USB Bluetooth adapter that comes with the keyboard isn't needed. To make the keyboard compatible, just go under the "REGISTER BLUETOOTH DEVICE" menu on the PS3 and then press the "CONNECT" button on the underside of the keyboard. Instant registration. I don't mind that the numeric keypad found on the right side of standard keyboards was omitted to make room for the mouse. This omittion keeps the size of the keyboard smaller and more "lap friendly". The keyboard has orange lights that glow and fade-out when certain buttons are depressed. The charging cradle performs double-duty as a sexy display base. My only complaint is that the alphabetic keys are not backlit, as this would be wonderful when typing in a dark room or at night. Otherwise, this keyboard is the ultimate solution for wireless typing and makes a statement in a room!

I bought this on a lark. It's expensive, but its design is more reminiscent of Bang & Olufsen's super-duper-pretty audio gear than normal PC equipment.

The keyboard itself is quite nice. I'm typing on it now, and the feel is as good as any I've used. (And I've used a lot -- starting with ASR 33 teletypes, through dumb terminals, PCs, workstations, etc.)

Yes, the charging station might not fit well in some desk environments. It works really well in mine, and you only have to charge the Li-Ion battery every month or two. If it runs out, a five minute charge will last a day.

The "ultimately cool" application for this keyboard would be a home theater. You'd be able to work on documents without compromising ergonomics, and then use the same keyboard as a pretty handy MCE remote. And if you're willing to pay more than $150 bucks for a keyboard, then you're just the right candidate for a 50" 1080p flat panel. That's the ticket!

The built-in trackpad works as well as the one on notebooks, although the area is a little smaller. I use the keyboard in conjunction with a Wacom tablet, and the combination is just about right.

Vista support: I've been using Vista for a few months now (yeah, I'm in the computer biz), and Vista more or less has support for the keyboard built in. I expect Logitech will eventually release a version of their setpoint software to get at the little extras (like remapping the function keys). Or maybe Vista has this buried in some menu!

The vertical/horizontal scroll wheel is just a little bit frustrating in Vista; you have to pay careful attention in order to be able to use it.

One of the other reviewers complained about the Bluetooth not working smoothly. Vista just ate the thing up; I was up and running ten seconds after opening the box. I just plugged in their dongle and turned the keyboard on (it came charged). Voila!

There is absolutely no way to justify a $150 keyboard quantitatively -- you really just have to decide that you need something this sleek. Bottom line: if you like the looks, and are willing to pay for them, you won't be disappointed.

I defy you to not say "WOW" or "COOL" when you open the box. This keyboard is slick and the touch is what I've been looking for, for years. This is just such a pleasure to use. And the scroll in a circle is great! The touchpad has all the normal functionality such as tapping to click, etc. but the scrolling feature makes browsing so easy. I hardly use the regular mouse anymore except for highly repetitive tasks. The only down side? The touch disk is sensitive and took a little practice at first but once you get used to the light touch you'll love it. If you're a touch typist, you'll LOVE the "throw" on the keys so not only do you type fast but silently as well. Pricey keyboard yes, but worth the bucks.

Update: I've now been using this keyboard for close to a year and am as happy today as I was the day I received it. The bluetooth has always worked, I charge it every other month but I do use it at least 12 hours a day. The touch is the same now as new. To summarize, great looks, comfortable, perfect touch...it just doesn't get better than this.

Last week I realized that there was a down side to how I'd hooked up my laptop to my HDTV. The laptop ended up connected to the TV and on top of my stereo cabinet, forcing me to stand at the computer to use it, or in my lap on my sofa, but not connected to the TV. So, I started poking around for wireless keyboards and mice. Thinking that a mouse wasn't going to work all that well, and that would just be one more "remote" in my livingroom, I shopped for a wireless keyboard with a built in trackpad. What I found was the Logitech diNovo Edge Keyboard.

At $149 this keyboard is a smidge on the pricey side but it's worth every penny. It's light, it's thin, it doesn't need AA or AAA batteries due to the built in Li-Ion batteries and charging station, and it's on board "touch disc". The batteries are quoted as being able to last a month or more on a single charge and based on other reviews I have no reason to doubt that. The "touch disc" is a round touchpad but with two special spots on the disc that allow for both vertical and horizontal scrolling once you get the hang of it.

Stylistically, this is a gorgeous piece of equipment. It's sleek and black, and had many backlit icons for special functions. (For example, the ring around the touch disc lights up when your using it and slowly fades out when you stop.) And, as other reviewers have said, it even looks great when sitting in the charging station.

The wireless connection runs on Bluetooth and this is where I ran into some problems. My Vista Ultimate laptop has built in Bluetooth but I'd not used it in the past as this is my first Bluetooth device for a computer. So, I went into the Bluetooth configuration settings and instructed the computer to find the device. I'd pressed all the right buttons and read all the instructions a dozen times but computer continually failed to find the keyboard. So, as a test, I plugged in the USB dongle for computers that didn't have Bluetooth and everything connected almost instantly. Therefore, the problem was with my computer, not the keyboard.

An hour later, having read many a support document, it seemed that Bluetooth was "running" (at least there was a Bluetooth icon in my system tray) but it was "turned off". Using the function keys to turn it on didn't work since, ultimately, the laptop was refusing to recognize the built in Bluetooth hardware. My guess is that something happened in the upgrade to Vista.

I found updated drivers from Gateway, downloaded them, and ran the install program. The install program informed me that I had to first uninstall the old version. Off to Add/Remove Programs to uninstall Bluetooth. Upon reboot, Vista found the hardware, reinstalled the (original) drivers, and before trying to install new drivers, I tried again. This time, the keyborad connected as it should.

(I don't blame the keyboard or Logitech for this at all. I mention it since others might have a similar problem.)

I then installed the Logitech software which seems to give me some additional options and customizations but I'm in no hurry to investigate those since so far I've been able to do everything I've needed to do.

The only other odd thing I've noticed is the keyboard's volume control. Using the keyboard to raise and lower the volume seems only to work within a small range, not silent-to-blearing like you'd expect. I'm sure this again has something to do with the OS' volume settings and not a problem with the keyboard itself. This is also something I'm not all that worried about as I'll probably use the TV remote's volume control more than anything else.

For those interested, a slideshow of the unpacking, Bluetooth installation(sans screenshots of the hour of troubleshooting) and Logitech software installation, can be found in my [..]