Lord Willin [Explicit Lyrics]

Clipse | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (August 20, 2002)
• Original Release Date: 2002
• Number of Discs: 1
• Format: Explicit Lyrics
• Label: Startrak
• ASIN: B0000665WR
• Also Available in: Audio CD  |  Audio Cassette  |  Vinyl
• Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (104 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #17,804 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

1. Intro

2. Young Boy

3. Virginia

4. Grindin'

5. Cot Damn

6. Ma, I Don't Love Her

7. Famlay Freestyle

8. When the Last Time

9. Ego

10. Comedy Central

11. Let's Talk About It

12. Gangsta Lean

13. I'm Not You

14. Grindin' [Remix][*]

15. Grindin' [Selector Remix][*]

Customer Reviews

Most Helpful Customer Reviews

14 of 16 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Classic, October 4, 2002

By 

Fantastik (his place.) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Lord Willin (Audio CD)

Lots of people think that this is more of a accomplishment for the Neptunes than Pusha T and Malice, the two extremely gifted MCs who make up Clipse, when the lyricists shine just as much as their producers. Let me run you through it.

1. Intro - The best intro I've heard in a while. So much wordplay on this track that it's one of my favorites. *****/5

2. Young Boy - I didn't like it the first time, but it's really a good song. Although, Pharrel's singing isn't really that...pretty, Clipse makes up for it. ****/5

3. Virginia - This is the only song on the album I didn't really like. The dark, slower beat doesn't fit the Clipse's style to well. **/5

4. Grindin' - The street anthem that everyone loves. Great song, but not the best on the album. ****/5

5. Cot Damn - A chorus that's just fun to say is what makes this track so good. ****/5

6. Ma, I Don't Love Her - One of my favorites, this beat matches Clipse really well. They keep it together with a good chorus and lyrics. *****/5

7. FamLay Freestyle - I don't consider this a Clipse track, first of all. Second of all, it's total crap. */5

8. When The Last Time - The other hit off the album I always thought was better than Grindin' by just a little bit. The Neptunes keep this one creative by adding that "tech-scratching" sort of sound to it. ****/5

9. Ego - Short but sweet. Clipse talks about some stuff in this one. All those rich people are "ego-trippin'" according to them. *****/5

10. Comedy Central - This beat grows on you. Fabolous provides an ill verse to add to the already killer verses by Pusha T and Malice. ****/5

11. Let's Talk About It - (Amazon has the track list wrong) Jermaine Dupri isn't too good in my opinion, and this is probably the most uncreative beat on the album, but it still delivers some punch. ***/5

12. Gangsta Lean - My favorite song on the album, Gangsta Lean has me bangin'. The beat is so loose for just chillin', and Pharell doesn't sound too bad singin' on this cut. ******/5

13. I'm Not You - A nice track with some good replay value. Clipse gets deep on their views of realness with this one. ****/5

14. Grindin' (Remix) - Basically just Grindin' with a bunch of other guys. ****/5

15. Grindin' (Selector Mix) - HILARIOUS! This version of Grindin' features all those foreign rappers in it. *****/5

7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars BEATS NOT SOLD SEPERATELY, September 9, 2002

By 

J. Johnson "capricornrising1" (CT) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Lord Willin (Audio CD)

The Neptunes have to be the most forward-minded minds in contemparary R&B/hip hop and after releasing the brillant rock-funk-pop of "In Search Of..." as N*E*R*D so you know that they'd have to deliver a hot album for the first rappers off their new Star Trek imprint, The Clipse. For the most part they do.

The Clipse, Pusha T and Malice( brothers Gene and Terrence Thorton) are two 'hustlers' from Virginia with similar flows that rhyme about the ins and outs of the hustling game. Intrestingly, The Clipse were orginally signed with Eletkra and had a single called "The Furneral" which had a very striking video and just an overall different flow. Yet on their new debut, "Lord Willin", Pusha T (formely known as Terrar) and Malice spit over jaunty, edgy Neptunes beats. "Young Boy" has a '70s vibe to it with Pharell shouting "You're Outta Line!" like a soul shouter from the days of The Temptations and Joe Tex. "Virginia", a homage to their homestate has a hot understated beat that's just plain hot. The cocky "Cot Damn" and the clubby "When The Last Time"("Is it my whip appeal or my babyface"--that line is something else) also stand out as does the very R&B "Ma, I Don't Love Her" with Faith Evans. "Gangsta Lean" has a hot beat that slips and slides just right. So it's obvious that the beats are the real stars of the show. It's the ice cream sundae. T and Malice's rhymes are just the cherry on top. Although they do have lyrical shortcomings (not much variety in subjects) they come with some clever puns ("My niece askin' why the rims are bigger than the hoola hoop"). And I can't fail to mention "Grindin", the anthem with the tight Run-DMC-esque raw hand clap beat and the braggadocius rhymes about pushing coke. Intresingly, there's three versions of "Grindin'" to be found on "Lord Willin'". Not only the single version but two remixes. One featuring a unneeded Baby and Lil' Wanye but a tight Norega and another ill-suited reggae mix with Sean Paul and Canada's Kardinal Offishall. Why the label felt the need to contain multiple versions of the hit is anyone's guess but it's not too much of a distraction.

Overall "Lord Willin" is a musically tight disc that will turn out a party and play well in your car when you're in a hip hop mood.

9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Solid debut just short of excellence, September 8, 2002

By 

"sooblime" (California) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Lord Willin (Audio CD)

I've never been one of those people who likes to break artists up into the stupid little categories the media places them in - pop-rap, gangsta, hardcore, East coast, whatever. If it's good music, it's good music and it shouldn't matter if the record is selling big-time or not - just because someone blows up doesn't mean that they've necessarily "gone pop" (thanks to Dilated Peoples for that line). I don't think very many people would tell you that 2Pac is a commercial sell-out or any less "real" for all his posthumous success.

All that needed to be mentioned because of the (stuff) I'm sure will be said about Clipse because their album was produced by the Neptunes and succeeded in moving some units. None of that matters. What does matter, though, is that this is a solid debut effort from the relative newcomers. Being that it is produced by the Neptunes, the album's best asset is the production value. All the beats are excellent and they cover a lot of ground - from the stripped-down drum-and-claps beat of "Grindin'" to the jazzy, saxophone-laced "Young Boy" (complete with Pharrell Williams hook) to the laid-back synthesized groove of "Virginia", all are winners. The lyrics, on the other hand, aren't so consistently great. Don't get me wrong, they're good enough, as are the flows of the rappers behind them, but they're nothing exceptional. If you're looking for "hard-core", you can't miss here, as nearly every song is a narrative of Malice and Pusha-T's coke-dealing days, and they're convincing enough at laying these stories down for us. Only problem is, it wears a bit thin by the end of the CD, especially when neither rapper really looks deeper than the surface level of their stories. I love a hardcore, drug-dealing song as much as the next gangsta rap fan, but when it's an entire album of it, it needs to have something along the lines of 2Pac's introspection ('I made a G today'/But you made it in a sleazy way/Sellin crack to the kids/'I gotta get paid'/Well hey - that's the way it is") to keep it interesting.

That being said, this is still a very good album. For the beats alone, it's worth picking up, but the two fairly good MC's also make it worthwhile. It's just hard for me to hear production value like this and not ponder the "what-if" about how higher-level MC's would sound with this kind of backing. No matter, I'll still bump this one for a long while, and just look elsewhere for the deeper meaning.