Customer Reviews

Lotus

5 star:		(44)
4 star:		(7)
3 star:		(4)
2 star:		(1)
1 star:		(2)

 

 

Many complaints have been lodged against this album including comments regarding the excess length of songs, the constant noodling, the missing presence of Carlos Santana, the lack of an overall melody, and poor sound quality.

To begin with, the length of the songs is excellently chosen. And believe it or not Supernatural fans, each song is well planned out. Most reviewers who have a beef with this album's length don't like jazz to begin with, and desire that Carlos keep within the bounds of his late 60's and late 90's hit making three minute song machine. The greatness of Lotus is its ability to take all of Carlos' beautiful melodies and expand them each into a whole new creation.

Despite the extended length of songs on Lotus, there is no excessive noodling. Each solo has a central rhythmic and melodic structure that was used to express in a moment what can never been repeated. Unlike earlier Santana albums, Carlos allows other musicians (i.e. excellent keyboards and Latin percussion) to express beautiful melodies over a palette of amazing chord progressions and tight rhythms. In addition Carlos is in his best recorded form, from the subtlety displayed on Samba Pa Ti to the incredible Incident at Neshabur. Lotus is pure genius if for nothing but the second disk of material. Carlos' guitar tone on Lotus is perfect in its ability to express cleanly when played gently and fire up when played with great passion.

Lotus is one of the single greatest achievement in guitar playing in terms of Santana's ability to harness and realize the melodic powers of the guitar. No other guitarist I have heard (Jimi, Django, Allman, Clapton, Beck, and even McLaughlin) has unlocked the mystery of a melodic, singable solo more completely than Carlos Santana did on this record.

In regards to the recording quality and mix, I believe it to be one of the best live album ever made. This album is not meant to sound up-front like a studio album or have lots of crowd noise like live albums made in the late 70's till today have. Lotus is meant to sound endless and reverberate with great warmth. The mic positioning, engineering, and mixing is top notch. Every instrument is balanced and every subtlety is audible and clear. If you have never tried to mix a live album, you would never know how hard it is to achieve the level of warmth and tonal quality Lotus produces.

Lotus is near the top of recorded music of all time. Many years after "Smooth" is forgotten, future generations and historians will look upon Lotus as one of the most important achievements in modern music history.

Lotus was recorded during the heart of Santana's jazz-rock period. But whereas Caravanserai and Welcome (whose lineup is featured here) are relatively quiet, meditate affairs, Lotus is a fiery testament to a band that was at its peak. The guitar playing, mixing speaker-frying leads with more avant-garde sounds, foresees the style Pete Cosey would perfect with Miles Davis a year later; and the rhythm section has loosened up to the point were they can switch from groove to groove effortlessly. Leon Thomas contributes a few vocals ("Black Magic Woman" and his trademark yodelling on "Mr. Udo") but the music is almost entirely instrumental.

The long fusion jams -- "Every Step of the Way", "Toussaint L'Overture" and an absolutely bonkers "Incident at Neshabur" -- are definitely high points of this concert. But you can't overlook the 30 minute medley that closes disc 1 either. The only real weak spot is Mike Shrieve's long drum solo "Kyoto" (hey, this was the 70s). If a sound halfway between Caravanserai and Miles Davis's acid funk albums Agharta/Pangaea sounds exciting, you must hear this.

Lotus is a dream come true. A recording of two Santana concerts in Osaka, Japan in support of Caravanserai, it blends songs from the group's then-current (mid-70s) jazzy period with old favorites, and is dished out by both the "New Santana Band" of the time and the "Old Santana Band." Yes, a live Santana CD with Michael Shrieve, Chepito Areas, and Armando Peraza (New) all on percussion! Tom Coster remains most prominent with his Hammond organ, but Lotus also features Richard Kermode (New) on keyboards. In substance, only one song from Caravanserai is included, a great version of "Every Step of the Way," but Welcome is represented by "Samba de Sausalito" and the pretty "Yours Is the Light." Coster bedazzles on the rockers from the first three albums as well as Airto's Brazilian jazz "Xibaba," one of the best moments in so many great ones. There is a 16-minute, unforgettable version of "Incident at Neshabur," with an extended, lovely coda--What more could you ask for? Carlos's superpowered guitar is mesmerizing, always; the entire atmosphere is otherworldly, dark, beautiful, modern jazzy (there is also a nod to Chick Corea), and most of all, electrifying. Early Santana and Lotus rule.

When "Lotus" was originally released as a vinyl Japanese-only import (1974), it was one of the most prized items among collectors. The packaging...nowhere near as important as the music itself...was a mind-blowing example of innovation and creativity with several fold-out posters and the sleeve that housed the three discs inside. That's one of the things that delayed the release of "Lotus" on CD for so many years...shrinking all of that wonder down into a 4.75" x 4.75" plastic box. They DID it...maybe not as spectacularly as the original 12 x 12 release...but it was magnificent packaging for what is basically Carlos Santana's "A Love Supreme." Seriously...if you like the pop stuff, more power to you. There's plenty of good stuff there. But this was the top of Santana's spiritual / fusion era. In 1973 he added "Devadip" to his name, which meant "the light of the lamp of the Supreme." That light burns brightly across "Lotus," especially on CD 2 (where most of the extended numbers reside, including the 15 minute "Incident at Neshabur"). As Santana fans know, there are "several different Santanas." This was the MILES Santana, the COLTRANE Santana. This is scary and amazing music played with so much mind-numbing passion that you have to wonder why there are people who don't "get" Santana. Get Lotus, and strap yourself in for one heck of a ride.

Paul Henderson's review criticises this record largely because of a certain lack of vitality. I agree that this can be interpreted here, but largely because of the mix, which is awful. Much as I love Santana's guitar playing, it's *way* too upfront in the mix. The keyboards against which he is playing and relying on for harmonic inspiration are buried and sound tinkly and twee. That can lead to the impression of a lack of vitality. A remix would change his opinion, I'm sure.

As for me, I re-mix the album in my head every time I listen. It's a *great* record. Incident at Neshabur, as the band breaks out from the slow ballad section and slowly builds to a crescendo, is fantastic. I've rarely heard Carlos Santana play with more speed and inventiveness than on the extended Gypsy Queen.

I could go on. The general hindsight view of Santana's career is that he/they began to go astray after the first three albums, and that the jazzy experimentaions were a mistake from which they never fully recovered...

My own view is that these excursions (Caravanserai, Welcome, Borboletta and Lotus) were the zenith of Santana and that they only began to go off the rails when they balked at the lesser (though still extremely healthy) record sales and went back to trying to be popular with Amigos etc.

This is Santana captured at their very peak. Just after Caravanserai and just before Welcome. BUY IT!!

Neither those who know Santana from the original band's early rock LPs, nor those most familiar with Carlos' and Company's recent all-star pop outings, will be in any way prepared for the astonishing two hours of music which is LOTUS. Recorded at a pair of Japanese concerts in 1973, this set is certainly the most singular item in one of rock music's most singular careers.
Having fallen under the spell of early-seventies fusion as epitomized by Miles Davis, Chick Corea and other groundbreaking jazzmen, guitarist Carlos Santana made this third version of his eponymous ensemble by far the best, concentrating on lengthy instrumental explorations which were kept nailed in place by a phenomenal three-to-four-man percussion section. While inevitable hits (and rare vocals) like "Black Magic Woman" and "Oye Como Va" are here, and wonderfully handled, they sound almost trivial next to the driving and exotic sounds which surround them. "A-1 Funk," "Gypsy Queen," "Samba de Sausalito" and "Incident at Neshabur" rank among my personal favorites; but it seems ludicrous to pinpoint specific tracks as the show is essentially one long and very remarkable suite, uninterrupted and unflagging. Guitar quotes from Miles, Stravinsky, Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles add moments of relative levity - and a reminder of just how far afield this band drew its inspiration from - before the ultratight octet tears into its next workout, leaving the listener to marvel at how they possibly could've kept it up. LOTUS is a stunning album, a marvelous experience and one of the peak moments from the heyday of jazz/rock fusion. Indispensable!

This must be the best of all the Santana albums. Dating from the time when the band moved from being an outstanding latin-rock outfit to being an outstanding latin-rock-jazz outfit, it is easily the match of Caravanserai, Welcome, Borboletta and Love Devotion & Surrender etc (with McLaughlin) from this period. The edge that this recording has are the keyboard interplay of Coster and Kermode and Santana's guitar. Too often a live album is just cashing in with a poor quality reverb heavy recording of studio material with the added annoyance of audience noise. In this case the recording is superb and there is none of the inane whooping, whistling and hollering that spoil too many live shows. Additionally, it is very unusual in the rock world to hear anything approaching improvisation in live performance but this album is one of a few notable exceptions. Beatles refrains and other references are thrown in for added interest in some of the longer solos.

This is not only the best album Santana ever made, it is among the best albums I own (of many hundreds). Lotus captures Santana live in the 1970s, when the band was at its jazziest. There are a few vocals here, on Black Magic Woman for example, and they are good. But most of the album is made up of instrumental jams, and they are creative, exciting -- Carlos Santana at his best, along with strong performances by bandmates such as Tom Coster on organ. Fans of Abraxas, one of Santana's most popular albums, will be pleased to hear long, superb versions of Incident at Neshabur and Samba Pa Ti. Anyone with an interest in jazz-rock style music or Santana should check out this album.

The early 70s was a period of spiritual involvement for many musicians. For Carlos Santana (as well as his soulmate John McLaughlin of the Mahavishnu Orchestra) this brought a new and intense fire to the playing that would soon exhaust itself, but which is happily preserved on a handful of great records. On Lotus (1973) all of Carlos' trademarks are in place (the minute-long sustain, the furious glissandos), but not yet reduced to cliché. Never again would his guitar spit liquid fire like this!

The rest of the band is great too, with veterans Shrieve and Chepito Areas in top form and the twin keyboards of Coster and Kermode weaving colourful webs behind it all. The music is mostly instrumental - a few more vocal tracks would have been welcome (although with the vocalists in question you have second thoughts...). There is much inspiration from the fusion jazz of the period (which Santana undoubtedly influenced back) and some of it sounds rather dated today. Still, 5 stars for the guitar solos alone..!

This is a live recording of the tour to support the Caravanseri album. It was originally only available as a Japanese import, until it came out as a CD in the 90's. The album has some of the hits from the first three albums but most of the music is along the same lines as Caravanseri, except much more intense. The music is amazing and can leave you exhausted if you listen to it all in one sitting. Incident at Neshabur and Toussaint L'Overture are overwhelming. The music has more jazz fusion influences than earlier works but still maintains the latin rhythms. Of Santana's live ablums, only Sacred Fire comes close to matching it.