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Mahler: Symphony No. 4

Gustav Mahler , Willem Mengelberg , Amsterdam Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra , Jo Vincent Audio CD
4.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)

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listen  1. Symphony No.4 In G - 1. Bedächtig. Nicht Eilen - Recht GemächlichRoyal Concertgebouw Orchestra17:19Album Only
listen  2. Symphony No.4 In G - 2. In Gemächlicher Bewegung. Ohne HastRoyal Concertgebouw Orchestra 8:19Album Only
listen  3. Symphony No.4 In G - 3. Ruhevoll (Poco Adagio)Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra21:27Album Only
listen  4. Symphony No.4 In G - 4. Sehr Behaglich: ''Wir Genießen Die Himmlischen Freuden''Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra 9:56Album Only

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Product Details

  • Performer: Jo Vincent
  • Orchestra: Amsterdam Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
  • Conductor: Willem Mengelberg
  • Composer: Gustav Mahler
  • Audio CD (February 5, 1990)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Philips
  • ASIN: B00008FJJ6
  • Average Customer Review: 4.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #657,101 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A door opened, a look back January 3, 2011
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I've been listening to the DG recently released Mahler
Complete Edition Gustav Mahler: Complete Edition that I find absolutely superlative - except that I was disappointed with the inclusive of the 4th Symphony with Boulez and the Cleveland Symphony. So I have been listening to other performances, and I stumbled across an authorized Philips release of the Mengelberg 1939 reading of the symphony. I'm not a fan of historical recordings, and I'm suspicious of reviewers who wax poetic about all of the detail they hear in a particular recording (that because of its age or acoustic or early electrical recording technique or performance venue simply isn't there to be heard), but that's my opinion, and as I read more about this particular [live] recording, I grew more hesitate because of comments about the quality of the acetate used to make the master and the inherit defects of that master. So I decided not to buy the CD (or any of the many public performances CDs), and simply download the recording. I'm listening to it now and I am pretty amazed about how clear, detailed, moving, and wonderful this performance is... yes, there is surface noise, there are "whooshes" and a persistent ticking, but its not distracting, the ear adjusts. Here is a performance from a conductor who heard Mahler perform the piece, attended rehearsals (can you imagine?) and made amendations to his conducting score based on what he heard and what Mahler said. In short, this recording is a worthly companion to the other great Mahler recordings we are blessed to have including the many included in the "Complete Edition' box.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
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This is a very, very interesting recording, for all the historical reasons outlined by the other reviewers. Whether one can draw a straight line between what the young Mengelberg heard Mahler rehearse, and what he incorporated into this 1939 rendition, is somewhat debatable, and best left for Mahler specialists. What wasn't debatable for me, however, was what this rendition added to my understanding of the piece overall. I heard things in this rendition (especially the 3rd movement) that I've heard nowhere else.

I have many other renditions of this symphony, but this will be one to which I will return frequently. (As noted by others) Mengelberg's flexibility with tempi were more extreme than you'll be accustomed to with many other interpretations, but (by gum!), they all worked very well...this interpretation is all "of a piece", so to speak, regardless of how it relates to those done by others. I also must throw laurels at the feet of Jo Vincent, for her clear, innocent and very straightforward singing in the 4th movement. IMHO, those sopranos who approach their roles in this symphony more...operatically...tend to distract from the mood and the intent. Jo Vincents's intonation didn't seem absolutely perfect, but otherwise she just nailed it for me. She's right up there with Lucia Popp (Tennstedt's studio version on EMI.) as my favorite in this symphony.

A note on the quality of the sound. I have heard both the Philips recording of this work and also the cleaned up version done by those wizards at Pristine Classical. The latter really takes the sound quality to a new level..I'd recommend finding this recording on their website and downloading...economics about the same (if not better).
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5.0 out of 5 stars Hors concors November 3, 2009
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This recording is considered the way that Mahler would have conducted his
own symphony. He really conducted this work with the Concertgebouw, indeed,
and Mengelberg took his mastery style from the own composer. I think this
statement says it all.
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