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5.0 out of 5 stars A good work from a good Christian
I do not understand why some atheists are getting angry by reading this book. The explanation of Spiegel on the existence of God is so simple for any persons, from high school to PhD education level, to understand and accept the truth: God does exist. Angry atheists should open up their minds and join the majority of people (in billion) who maintain religious beliefs and...
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1.0 out of 5 stars All baseless assertion, no demonstration.

In this review I am only going to deal with the main thesis of the book. I am not going to deal with all the other issues he brings up concerning the rational merit of the arguments for or against Theism.

The main thesis of the book is that ALL atheists dont really disbelieve in God predicated on lack of evidence for, stronge evidence against, or...
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1.0 out of 5 stars All baseless assertion, no demonstration., February 25, 2010
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This review is from: The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief (Paperback)

In this review I am only going to deal with the main thesis of the book. I am not going to deal with all the other issues he brings up concerning the rational merit of the arguments for or against Theism.

The main thesis of the book is that ALL atheists dont really disbelieve in God predicated on lack of evidence for, stronge evidence against, or both; but that atheists dont believe in God because we are immoral and willfully deny it. He charges all atheist by default with not having intellectual integrity in regards to this issue.

I used to be a very strong Christian. I have read hundreds of books dealing with worldview issues(more books on the Christian side), and all the arguments pro and con concerning religion and Christianity. I ended up becoming an atheist about two years ago by examining the arguments the best I could. Intellectual integrity means A LOT to me, and for someone to charge all atheists and myself to necessarily not have intellectual integrity concerning this issue is offensive and just plain wrong and without foundation. The mistreatment, hate, and unwarranted prejudice of ideas that this books supports are incalcuable, and this saddens me. Why just single out atheists? Are the believers in all the other religions exempt from this charge? If his thesis includes all disbelievers in Christianity then 75% of the world would be included in this unfounded charge of immorality being the cause of disbelief in his God.

So what is the evidence for his thesis, and what is the evidence against it?

There is no more positive evidence for his thesis, then there is that disbelief in astrology, Zeus, Poseidon, Scientology, mormons magic underwear, and the millions of other Gods(and different versions of his own) is a result not of reasoned disbelief but rather is caused by immorality and willful denial of an overwhelming mountain of ironclad evidence that is close to being self-evident but is not quite so, in order to save are "free will".

He quotes certain Atheists saying they dont want "God" to exist, and for some reason he thinks that this indicates that most if not all atheist are this way. First of all, if wanting something to be so or not to be so, calls the belief or disbelief into suspicion; then all peoples religious beliefs and disbeliefs are in the same boat, because all Christians do and dont want both certain other gods as well as many versions of the Christian God to exist(such as calvins god). Secondly many atheist would prefer there to be a God, either way this does not preclude Christians or Atheists from basing their belief or disbelief in God on a reasoned consideration of the evidence.

He claims that many atheists disbelief is rooted in the absence of a Good father figure. Here he commits the fallacy of special pleading by cherry picking a group of famous atheists that apparently had no fathers or had a bad relationship with their own, and then he selects different famous theists who apparently had good fathers and good relationships with them. This does not work though, because out of the millions of atheists and christians there are many with both good and bad, absent and not absent, as well as ones with good relationships and bad ones with their father. Unless he can find samples that could represent the whole demographic of believers and unbeleivers, this is just baseless conjecture. Even if he could show this, it would still only show correlation not causation. The same goes for him and others saying they know some atheists that are "bad or immoral" therefore this indicates they all are. Every Christian knows Christians they consider immoral, does this mean this is the cause of their disbelief in the Muslim God, or that Christians tend to be more immoral then everyone else?

Atheist differ on whether there is good negative evidence against God or certain types of Gods, but all agree that there is not enough adequate positive evidence and/or reasons to justify Theism, especially full blown Christian Theism. Spiegel claims that the evidence for God is so overwhelming that someone must be deluded or immoral in order not to concede that God exists. This is odd to me, because the overwhelming majority of Christian theologians, philosophers, and everyday Christians all throughout history and presently were not and are not evidentialist(that you should proportion your beliefs in accordance with the evidence) and agree with the atheists contention, in so far that basing things off reason and evidence alone will not suffice in grounding and demonstrating Christian Theism to be the most probable over any and all alternatives. They would argue that you must leap beyond the evidence(and some would say even against evidence) and have faith. So does that mean that most Christians are immoral or willfully blind since they dont think there is ironclad evidence and or reason that could prove Christianity to be certain or even the most probable?

So what if you could show that Christians as a group were more moral then atheists? This still would not show that all atheists do not base there views on reason but instead disbelieve for non-rational or irrational reasons. Correlation does not prove causation. What if it could be shown that Catholics were more moral then Protestants, would this prove that protestants had their views because of their immorality and willfull disregard for following where the evidence leaded? Obviously not!

So what evidence is there on the moral status of both Atheist individuals and societies that are more atheistic? Here is what Luke(blogger who writes the blog common sense atheism) said about the issue of morality and secular societes.

"Christians often assert that religion is necessary to keep a society healthy, happy and moral. They say that a society without God would be immoral, loveless, and miserable. This is not just the position of Pat Robertson and Bill O'Reilly, or even just of mainstream evangelicals. It is even proclaimed by professional Christian philosophers like Keith Ward1 and John Caputo.

Until recently, this assertion could not be tested because all societies were deeply religious. Moreover, the first atheistic societies had atheism forced upon them by brutal dictators (Hoxha's Albania, Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, Pol Pot's Cambodia), and thus were hardly models of a healthy society.

Only near the dawn of the 21st century did Planet Earth see a few societies of "organic" (unforced) atheism emerge: most notably, Denmark and Sweden.2 So, now that we finally have a natural experiment on the issue, does the data confirm or deny the claim that religion is necessary to maintain a healthy, happy and moral society?


Society without God (2008) is sociologist Phil Zuckerman's analysis of the societal and moral health of these two atheistic societies.

So, what do the data show about the health, happiness and morality of these non-religious societies?

The data could hardly be clearer. Denmark and Sweden rank among the most well-developed, wealthiest, most democratic, most free, most entrepreneurial, least corrupt, least violent, most peaceful, healthiest, happiest, most egalitarian, best educated, most charitable, and most environmentally compassionate societies in the entire world.

Well-developed
As of the 2008 United Nations' Human Development Report, which ranks nations on a measure of "human development" (long and healthy life, education, and standard of living), Denmark is 14th and Sweden is 6th. (In contrast, the 50 least-developed nations are all highly religious.) Another "summary" measure is The Economist's Quality of Life Index, which ranks Denmark and Sweden 9th and 5th in the world.

Wealthiest
Sweden and Denmark are ranked 17th and 18th in GDP per capita, according to the International Monetary Fund. In fact, the list of the top 20 wealthiest nations in the world is dominated by non-religious nations. Denmark and Sweden rank 3rd and 10th in financial satisfaction. Also note that among the 50 poorest countries on Earth, all are extremely religious.

Most democratic
According to World Audit, Denmark and Sweden are the most democractic nations on earth. The Global Democracy Ranking lists them at #1 and #3. The Economist's Democracy Index ranks them 1st and 5th.

Most free
The Heritage Foundation ranks Denmark and Sweden 6th and 11th on economic freedom. They rank 8th and 4th in freedom in decision making. Reporters Without Border ranks them 14th and 7th in press freedom, with Freedom House ranking them 3rd and 5th.

Most entrepreneurial
The World Economic Forum ranks nations by economic competitiveness, and nearly all the top spots are dominated by non-religious nations, including Denmark and Sweden. The same story holds for specific measures of entrepreneurship, for example Denmark and Sweden rank among the top 5 nations where it is cheapest to start a new business.

Least corrupt
Transparency International ranks Denmark and Sweden as the 1st and 4th least corrupt nations on earth.

Least violent
Denmark and Sweden both rank low in murders per capita. Both Fox & Levin (2000) and Fajnzylber et. al. (2002) found that all the nations with high homicide rates were extremely religious, and that the nations with the lowest homicide rates tended to be relatively non-religious. Good statistics on other measures like rape and violent crime are difficult to compile because nations measure crime differently, and such statistics are often more a measure of the effectiveness of a nation's justice system and a culture's willingness to report crimes than they are a measure of actual incidences of violence.

Most peaceful
Denmark and Sweden rank 2nd and 6th on the Global Peace Index, whose top ranks are dominated by non-religious nations.

Healthiest
Again, according to the 2008 Human Development Report, Denmark and Sweden are ranked among the top 20 nations on life expectancy, and are ranked 3rd and 4th for the lowest infant mortality rates in the world. UNICEF's 2007 State of the World's Children report ranks Denmark, Sweden, and the similarly non-religious Netherlands as the three best countries in the world concerning "child welfare" (their safety, education, and health). In terms of physicians per 100,000 people, Denmark is 14th and Sweden is 6th.

Happiest
Ruut Veenhoven, a leading researcher on world happiness, maintains the World Database of Happiness, a ranking of nations by happiness level. Denmark currently ranks 2nd (behind similarly non-religious Iceland), and Sweden ranks 8th. Another ranking has Denmark and Sweden tied for the 2nd happiest nations on earth. Only 5% of Danes and 4% of Swedes report being "not very happy" or "not at all happy." Nations with high rates of "organic" atheism do tend to have higher rates of suicide than highly religious nations, and this may be partially explained by their progressive policies about assisted suicide and a lack of religious taboos against suicide. That is, organically non-religious societies let people die how they want to die, rather than prohibiting people from taking their own life into their own hands. But the picture here is confusing. Though Denmark and Sweden do rank among the happiest nations on earth according to several studies, they also rank high in depressive episodes per capita. And yet, they rank 1st and 9th in life satisfaction!

Most egalitarian
According to the CIA World Factbook, Denmark and Sweden have the greatest income equality in the world. And once again we find that most of the most equal countries in the world are non-religious. And how about gender equality? Here, it should not surprise anyone that the list of most gender-equal nations is dominated by non-religious societies, including Denmark and Sweden, which also have the 2nd and 4th highest rates of women in positions of national political power (again, see the UN's Human Development Report).

Best educated
For literacy, Denmark and Sweden are, of course, at 99%. In terms of government investment in education as a percentage of GDP, Denmark and Sweden rank 8th and 12th. In terms of adults who have finished secondary education, they rank 5th and 7th. Also note that of the 50 countries with the lowest adult literacy rates, all are extremely religious.

Most charitable
Denmark and Sweden rank 5th and 1st in official development assistance as a percentage of Gross National Income. Ranked by percentage of population who are members of volunteer organizations, Denmark and Sweden are 16th and 8th.

Environmentally compassionate
According to the Climate Change Performance Index, Sweden is 1st and Denmark is 7th in terms of doing the most to improve environmental conditions. Yale's Environmental Performance Index ranks Sweden 3rd and Denmark 26th. Ranked by spending on pollution control as a percentage of GDP, these nations rank 8th and 13th. By percentage of of companies found to be environmentally sustainable, they rank 7th and 8th. Once again, a glance at such lists reveals that the top ranks are dominated by non-religious nations.

I repeat: Denmark and Sweden rank among the most well-developed, wealthiest, most democratic, most free, most entrepreneurial, least corrupt, least violent, most peaceful, healthiest, happiest, most egalitarian, best educated, most charitable, and most environmentally compassionate societies in the entire world.

Clearly, religion is not required to sustain healthy, happy, and moral societies.

For the theist, Zuckerman's book should be an eye-opener. For the atheist, Society without God is a warehouse of ammunition (facts, statistics, and sources) against claims that religion is a necessary ingredient for healthy, happy, and moral society.

By the way, none of this is meant to suggest that atheism causes healthy societies. The correlation between atheism and societal health merely debunks Christian claims that religion is a necessary ingredient in a healthy society. If there is a causal link between the two at all, I would suspect the reverse: that happiness, success, wealth, education, and security tend to open the door for an abandonment of superstitious crutches.

Notes:
1.In Defense of the Soul, pages 8-10. [']
2.Here, I'll reproduce Zuckerman's sources: Greely (2003) found that 34% of Danes and 26% of Swedes are theists. As for belief in a "personal God," Botvar ("Kristen tro I Norden" in Folkkyrkor och Religios Pluralism, 2000) found the numbers to be 20% and 18%, Bondeson (2003) measured 51% and 26%, Lambert (2003) measured 24% and 16%. According to Inglehart, similarly low figures are found for belief in life after death (30% and 33%), heaven (18% and 31%), hell (10% and 10%), sin (21% and 26%). Danes and Swedes also don't believe the Bible is the word of God (7% and 3%, according to Botvar), and they don't attend religious services (only 12% of Danes and 9% of Swedes attend chuch once a month, according to Inglehart). It should be noted that Norway is also one of the most non-religious nations on earth, and usually ranks similarly to Denmark and Sweden on measures of societal health. That Zuckerman didn't write a book about Denmark, Sweden, and Norway surprises me."

Here is a quote from Beit-Hallahmi in the book "The cambridge companion to atheism" summarizing research and statistics concerning atheists.

" We can say that atheists show themselves to be less athoritarian and suggestible, less dogmatic, less prejudiced, more tolerant of others, law-abiding, compassionate, conscientious, and well educated. They are of high intelligence, and many are committed to the intellectual and scholarly life. In short, they are good to have as neighbors."

There is no good evidence showing a correlation between immorality and disbelief. There is good evidence showing a correlation to the contrary. Exactly the opposite of what you should see if his thesis was correct. Even if you could show a correlation, it would still not demonstrate that immorality and willfull denial is the cause of people not believing in God or the Christian god, anymore then if you could show that people who disbelieved in the claims of Astrology were more immoral then people who did believe in astrology would prove that the cause of the their denial of astrology was caused by their immorality and willfull denial of the evidence.

For many atheists one of the reasons for rejecting the Christian God was not because they were immoral, but BECAUSE of their moral conscience. This is how many atheists see common theistic argument of the "know bible God know humane ethics" variety "we would not even have any ethical bases NOT to commit unwarranted gratitouse acts of genocide, rape, murder and things such as ; unless we worship and believe in the almighty morally perfect being who sanctions, commits, and or condones genocide, rape, murder and things such as". There are many good reasons to pick moral act a over b, and you need not an evil God in order to have those reasons.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Preaching to the (equally ill-informed) choir, September 1, 2011
This review is from: The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief (Paperback)
If, as Spiegel asserts, immorality leads to atheism, then the most immoral nations on earth would have the greatest number of atheists, and it is likely that the most atheistic nations on earth would also be the most immoral.

In fact, the exact OPPOSITE is far more true. The United States is the most devoutly religious of all highly-developed nations. It also has among the highest percentages of violent crime, illegal drug use, broken homes, the greatest number of armed conflicts, and other demographic markers.

Contrast this with the nations of Scandinavia, who are among the least religious people in any "first-world" nations. They are among the least violent, least criminal, most peace-loving, and have the lowest drug use, etc. If religious belief is supposed to bring about virtue, it has had no such effect, and if its absence is supposed to bring about vice, it is likewise unsuccessful at doing so.

Japan provides yet another example. Among the most peaceful and well-behaved societies on earth today, they have become much more secular than they were during the 1930s and '40s, when religion was used to stir them to violence, hatred and intolerance. It is the *absence* of belief in Japan that has improved their culture.

Spiegel's book just trots out the same tired old tropes about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot being supposedly "atheistic" (in fact, they were not; they merely replaced the structure of the Church with their own version: the cult of the leader).

Finally, if, as Spiegel claims, immorality leads to unbelief, America's prisons would be filled with atheists. In fact, the opposite is true. Study after study has clearly shown that prisoners are far more likely than non-prisoners to have religious beliefs. I'd like to see Spiegel try to explain that fact.
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31 of 45 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars An Angry Theist, May 21, 2010
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Spiegel attempts in this book to show that atheism stems from two sources: (1) lack of a good father figure, and (2) a desire to escape religious moral proscriptions. The only problem is that he doesn't establish either thesis at all, and engages in some extraordinarily poor argument along the way.

It would be two cumbersome to point out all of the various errors made in this book. Spiegel claims that atheists cannot live happy lives. The a priori assumption is that a belief in personal immortality is necessary to live a happy life. But this question cannot be settled on the basis of armchair reasoning, but requires some empirical justification. Spiegel offers none. I had to wonder whether Spiegel has ever known an atheist personally. I'm an atheist and can honestly say I'm not living a life of despair. Were the ancient Greek philosophers, many of whom did not accept any notion of personal immortality, living lives of despair? One might at least consult Aristotle on this.

Spiegel offers the fine-tuning argument in order to bolster his claim that the existence of God is quite obvious, and thus atheists must be willfully rejecting God rather than rejecting his existence on rational grounds, but he doesn't consider seriously or accurately the objections to the argument. The one objection he mentions is the notion of the multiverse view, seriously considered by contemporary physicists, that there could be many numerous universes. His response is that this has not been demonstrated. But he misses the point of the objection. The fine-tuning argument relies on an often unstated premise, viz., that there is only one universe, or at least significantly restricted number of universes. So long as the multiverse view is a possibility this premise remains unsubstantiated. The fine-tuning argument is thus in limbo.

But now, what is his evidence for his two main contentions cited above? A list of a few prominent atheists whose fathers died young or were bad fathers, and a similar rather limited list of atheists whose behavior, according to Spiegel's lights, was immoral. That's it! No social scientist would accept the legitimacy of this methodology. Spiegel is trying to argue a causative claim. His evidence on the basis of any legitimate methodology is insufficient to even establish correlation, let alone causation. (I say "by his lights" since his chief moral complaint is sexual immorality, involving sexual promiscuity, open marriages, and homosexuality. This is simply tendentious, since although there are religious grounds to objecting to these, a nonreligious person might very well find no reason for objection. If so such people are not trying to "escape" moral opprobrium by atheism.)

Along the way we get claims that are so completely unfounded that it is a surprise, at least to me, that they are raised at all. To clinch his claim that atheists are willfully rejecting religion Spiegel adopts a Calvinist notion of the "sense of the divine" or "sensus divinitatis." Somehow he thinks his readers should nod their collective heads to a notion that hardly comes from an unbiased source. And further claims become even more ridiculous. "Consequently, the most one can do is `struggle furiously' against the awareness of God and the fear it evokes. However, if the sensus devinitatis is universal and cannot be squelched, then how can there be atheists?" (106). Again, I must wonder whether Spiegel knows any atheists personally. For one, I will assure him that I'm not struggling mightily against any "sensus divinitatis." But the argument becomes even more absurd: "Even small children have a sense of the divine, even if the lack the linguistic or conceptual tools to effectively communicate this" (107). I think John Locke offered a sufficient argument against this in his objection to the doctrine of innate ideas. To put it simply, how in the world do you know this?

The arguments offered in this book are so bad that the question is begged as to why the author ever wrote it. One explanation is, of course, intellectual obtuseness. He simply was incapable of recognizing how bad his arguments were. I think a more charitable interpretation, however, is revealed in a passage that refers to a main source, the psychologist Vitz. " While some might be critical of any attempt to psychologize the phenomenon of atheism, Vitz notes: `We must remember that it is atheists themselves who began the psychological approach to the question of belief'. Turnabout, as they say, if fair play" (64). This is nothing but tit for tat. Unfortunately it is rather bad tit for tat. I must admit some degree of embarrassment that this book comes from someone whose chosen profession I share.

Signed,
An atheist who had a wonderful father, adopted atheism at the age of thirteen because I realized I had no reasons to believe theism, and whose sexual life has been, well, rather sedate.
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24 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Dissapointed., May 17, 2010
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As skeptical minded person, I usually enjoy reading someone else's perspective. I actually enjoy when someone can prove me wrong or change my mind. It means that I learned something completely new and am a better person for it. The author just does not get atheism. It is simple. Most atheists just don't believe due to lack of evidence. It is that simple. As an atheist, I don't believe in a god, for the same reason that I don't believe in psychics, astrology, witch craft, or Santa. I am open to believe in any of those if there was some reasonable evidence. I have looked and tried to believe. It would be amazing if we discovered that a god (or many gods) exist, that psychics are real or that astrology worked... but am still looking for that evidence. Atheists are willing to believe in a god. They are not emotionally attached to their beliefs the same way a Christian is attached to theirs. The author of this book does not get that. Not at all.
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28 of 41 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars This book should be renamed Psychology for Dummies, April 6, 2010
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"The Making of an Atheist", by James Spiegel, is a different kind of book about atheism. The author doesn't really try to refute any of the arguments of atheists, he simply tries his hand at proving that, just as atheists argue how theists believe for emotional/psychological reasons, atheists do as well. What kind of emotional reasons does the author give? He claims that many who are atheists are simply rebelling against their earthly father due to some kind of unfortunate death, absence, etc. He also argues that atheists refuse to believe because we want to wallow in sin, and immoral behavior.

What is the evidence the author presents to the reader? Not much. Just a handful of examples of atheists who did act immorally at times, and quotes a single atheistic philosopher as having an emotional reason for disbelief. Oh, and the bible. Yes, the bible. That's it. A single atheist, and a book filled with so many contradictions it would make the government blush. As for the single quote of the atheist, that's assuming he wasn't taken out of context, as he did with an interview Richard Dawkins gave for a broadcast on NPR.

The only problem with his thesis is that...well, it has no solid evidence going for it. None. There are many studies showing that atheists and theists are just as moral, and some studies show that atheists are a bit more moral than believers. With the very small sampling the author presents of the atheists who lost their fathers that's hardly a reliable study to infer about atheists in general. The fact is that atheists have grown up in all kinds of households, with a loving father and one without. The kicker is that there are actually studies showing that theists do often believe for emotional reasons, such as one done in 2008 which demonstrated how people, when made to feel as if their lives are out of control and become anxious, that increases belief in god. When peoples' lives are stable and happy, their beliefs decrease.

Surprisingly, I didn't feel too insulted by the book. A little bit at first, but as I continued reading mostly my reaction was one of amusement. Mostly at this christian who made use of these wildly inaccurate claims about science, the universe, and evolution, which are easily refuted...and he continually claims atheists are in denial. Funny stuff. Perhaps if he'd picked up a book about evolution he'd see that there are transitional fossils that go a long way in proving evolution.

Overall, the book was well written, just completely wrong. However, one thing I can applaud the author for was that he correctly defined atheism and agnosticism. Atheism being nothing but a lack of belief in a god/s, and agnosticism being a lack of knowledge. Bravo. Finally a theist gets it right.

If you decide to buy this book, beware. Buy a helmet because it won't be long until you're banging your head against a wall while reading the author's illogical arguments that fly in the face of just about every study and fact one can find about atheists and more secular societies in general.
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7 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars A philosophical nightmare, April 23, 2011
This review is from: The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief (Paperback)
The author obviously has a zealous bias. He has little understanding of morality without interjecting the need of dogmatic foundations. I found that most people left the church with the feeling that religion was inherently immoral due to its devicivness and bigotry. The author needs to ask himself weather it's more virtuous to be moral because of a god, or to be moral for the sake of being a good. If one needs to be good because of fear or weather one is good because they love life itself. This book is a shallow, narrow-minded approach to a large subject matter.
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19 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars 130-page Christian Pep-Talk, April 26, 2010
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As a former philosophy student of Professor Spiegel's at Taylor University, I was naturally eager to read his latest book. I was especially full of anticipation seeing as I entered Taylor as a Christian, and by the time I graduated, my "descent" (or ascent, depending on one's viewpoint) into atheism had already begun as a result of intense doubt in the rationality of theism (not, as Spiegel baselessly asserts in his book, as a result of immorality and consequent impaired cognitive function). I had and continue to have a great deal of respect for Spiegel. He's got a great mind and even greater heart (although by his own claim I have no basis to make such a statement since according to him my naturalistic control beliefs preclude me from making any value claims). But this book does not do him justice as a philosopher. It is little more than a pep talk for weary-minded Christians: believers who have been worn down by the overwhelming cumulative evidence against the veracity of their religion. Spiegel's own penchant for Reformed Epistemology and it's "negative apologetics" approach serve him well for this task. In the end, I find one scholar's description of Reformed Epistemology to fit this book equally as well: "fundamentalism on stilts." I refuse to let this book supplant my positive experience with Spiegel as a professor of philosophy. I know what he was trying to accomplish with it and I believe he does. But I'm also hopeful for sincere philosophical discourse on the matter from Spiegel in the near future. I refuse to believe that he's completely forsaken the philosophical ideal of following the evidence--the cumulative evidence--wherever it leads.
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21 of 31 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Straw men easy to knock down, April 5, 2010
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I have to be honest here: I've only read what is available here on Amazon. I won't buy the book, because I find the title alone insulting and condescending. As an ex-christian (believer for 46 years, degree in theology and missionary in Europe), I ceased to believe 3 years ago, simply through reading, thinking, reasoning, and intense intellectual curiosity and inquiry. I was not mad at God or other believers (quite the contrary), and certainly was not itching to live a life of debauchery and immorality, as the title of this book states. If anything, I am probably more moral now than before. I certainly judge people MUCH less than I did as a Christian! I know several other people here in the Portland area who in the past 3 or 4 years who have de-converted, and I think they would all tell a similar story.

Spiegel seems completely clueless about the REAL reasons why most of us de-convert. But then, people like Spiegel, and other christians I know, think they know what we ex-believers think, and what our motives are. The plain fact is, they find it impossible that someone could stop believing in christianity (albeit THEIR version) simply through rational inquiry, thinking, and examination. Maybe admitting such holds implications that for them are simply too terrifying: that they too could one day stop believing!
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12 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars terrible book, January 25, 2011
This review is from: The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief (Paperback)
The author provides no empirical basis for his assertions. In fact, there has been some very compelling social research indicating the very opposite of the findings of this book.

Don't be fooled. Atheism is not a product of immorality, it is a product of doubt.

This book is a baseless, empty-headed attack on what is one of the fastest growing demographics in the world. Atheists are everywhere, and they are more numerous every day. That is why it is important to understand that they are not immoral. They are free of super naturalism, are in tune with humanities natural sense of morality (which theists also possess, but attribute to "god") and assess truth claims based on evidence, not blind faith.

If you read this book you are going to need more than a grain of salt. You'll need an entire ocean.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Trash Book, November 12, 2011
This book immediately starts with a false pretense by directly insulting people who are Atheist, by trying to convince you that atheists are immoral. This trash of a book is laughable. I'm surprised any publisher would want to soil their hands with it.
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The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief
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