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Making Sense of Church: Eavesdropping on Emerging Conversations About God, Community, and Culture

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I have to admit that my shelves are getting a bit too full of books that teach us all about postmodernism and how the church should respond. I wasn't sure if I really wanted to read another one, but when I saw that Making Sense of Church was written by Spencer Burke, founder of TheOoze.com, I knew this one would be worth reading. It's not because he has become a "voice" for postmodern ministry, but because he has enabled so many other voices to be heard.

And that's what makes this book so unique. Spencer gives voice to those who would otherwise go unheard. This is more a collection of viewpoints-often conflicting-than it is a traditional book. Each chapter is a mixture of observations from his personal journey with dozens of posts from TheOoze's discussion boards.

This blending of viewpoints accomplishes what the author hopes the church can do-enter "an era where we can have meaningful, compassionate conversations with each other, no matter where our allegiances lie-modern or postmodern, Eastern Orthodox or Catholic, mega church or house church."

Admittedly, for the first few chapters I felt like this was territory that's already been explored. Some of the ideas are covered elsewhere by popular authors like Leonard Sweet. It's the later chapters that made the book worth it for me. Chapter 7, "Adversary to Ally," makes me carry on some rather uncomfortable internal dialogue. Some of the chapter frustrated or even angered me, which is why this book needs to be read. It forces me to ask some of the questions I don't want to ask, because I'm afraid of the answers I may find. In reality, what I'm discovering is that they actually lead to even deeper and more challenging questions. Which in turn shapes me into a more honest and faithful follower of Jesus.

Can this book be one part of "a bridge between these camps" of modern and postmodern argument within the church? Between conservative and liberal? As I read the book, I can easily see fundamentalists dubbing this liberalism and the liberal camp thinking some of the observations are boringly conservative. Hopefully we can embrace the attitude that this book communicates-an attitude that seeks to understand before it tries to be understood. An attitude of deep, rich, and meaningful conversation.

The books is a series of changing metaphors that are hitting culture and our church right now as seen through the eyes and life of Spencer Burke and many of the users of TheOoze.com's message boards. The result is this roadmap of change that is happening all around us told through story and rich visual metaphors.

The book is one of the best I have read this year and is one that as a pastor I have ordered for the rest of the churches leadership to read as a starting place to help them find their bearings in a world of changing values and worldviews.

The book is written from the viewpoint of a person who was in church leadership. It looks at many of the changes from that point of view. While the book can be read and understood by anyone, the perspective is that of a leader and shows that point of view. The cool part is that Spencer uses his own pastoral ministry as not a "do like me" but more of "learn from my mistakes and find your own path".

Some of the book has been covered by other authors (but hey, that are all writing on the same topic so some overlap is going to happen) but there were several sections in the book which generated some serious introspective thought and reflection. I have read the book three times now and each time brings out more I need to think through.

Unlike some books on the church by those inside it, Spencer show humility, grace, and a great sense of humor.

The book is not one that you will just read and put down but one of those books that will be re-read years from now. You may want a couple of copies to give away to friends as well (they probably won't want to give it back)

Spencer Burke offers an insighful view into the metaphors which have been guiding the established evangelical church here in the West. Rather than just a stinging critique of the established church, Spencer offers different metaphors which will help guide the church in this postmodern age.

The contributions by many who post on theooze offer a variety of perspectives and paints an interesting picture of the church in today's age. Spencer brings these conversations from theooze in to each chapter showing this isn't just one man's vision for the church, this is what God is inspiring in the body of Christ.

If you want to really have an effect on a person's life change their metaphor.

Spencer sees clearly the emerging metaphors. From his perspective (peering in on a conversation at theOoze.com), he has synthesized the story of many on the journey.

Are you trying to help your congregation, family, or yourself live in the changing culture? This is the essential primer!

In "Making Sense of Church", Spencer Burke describes some of the broader changes in society and then moves on to changes within the church -- trying to bridge a gap between the "emerging" and "established" church.

"It's simply about the questions, hopes, and fears of real people... it's a conversation about church - The Church."

Spencer has done an excellent job of weaving together conversations from TheOooze message boards with his own experiences on various topics: leadership, teaching, growth, ministry, mission, faith and evangelism.

I really appreciated his two identity metaphors for church leadership: the tour guide versus the fellow traveller.

Here's a summary of his points for these two:

Tour Guide: motivated by fear, gets their sense of worth from their position of authority and performance, needs to stick to 'The Route' and keep others on it: my job is to tell you exactly what to do, sits behind the wheel all the time, knows the 'right' and 'best' ways, an expert with a reputation to uphold, believes 'I must know the right answer'

Fellow Traveller: sense of worth comes from Jesus Christ, true to themselves: free to wander and rest when they need to, free to love and be loved, unafraid of making mistakes or losing their position, I'm on the journey and I'm learning from you too, open to finding new ways to do things: 'I don't have to have it all figured out'

Making Sense of Church is a great read -- actually it's my first "postmodern" book that I've read, and I found it reassuring to see others thinking along similar lines to the things I have been wondering about and questioning. Spencer has pulled quotes from a great well of thoughtful, inspiring and encouraging thinkers at TheOoze and I highly commend this book to you.

This book is excellent. Spencer Burke and theooze.com makes me want to quit going to church and be Church. I guess this book could potentially make some people mad. I loved it. It is really a forward moving book. The world has changed. Spencer and his theooze-logians have given us new metaphors in which to engage the world. All this and you get to glimpse a little bit of Spencer Burke. He's a guy who has lived what he speaks of. He has struggled through modernity models of church life and he is reaching for something new, compelling and challenging. If you don't read this book...nevermind, just read the book.

There are a lot of good books on the Emerging Church out there. What Spencer Burke has done, however, is unique. He refuses to bash the modern church or hype the postmodern church. Instead, he brings us along on his journey, along with the contributions of others. It's not just a book; it's also a travel guide. Highly recommended.

Transitions present odd responses. Some would suggest we throw out the old and usher in the new. Others consider anything new dangerous and a risk to orthodoxy. Spencer Burke provokes the reader to consider how to navigate the transitions we face. The metaphors he uses capture a very real awareness of the need both to hold on and to let go. Conversations from TheOoze.com offer a glimpse into the very sincere wrestling with what it is to "be" the church. Spencer's background makes him a credible fellow traveler on the road to making sense of church.

i LOVE spencer's book. i read it in one day. he sums things up with an eye toward the big picture, and without bitterness toward anyone, but with so much honesty. i'm very impressed. i especially enjoyed the first and last chapters --- very strong intro and wrap up. even though i've been a regular at theOOZE for a few years, i didn't know much about his background. spencer's history of witnessing to everything that moved, and his black and white thinking, was a lot like my husband when i met him in 1980. spencer's struggle with anxiety and admitting his depression to his peers (pages 35-36) describes so well what i went through in 1998, while pastoring a church with my husband. it's no wonder that we feel connected to him so easily! this is a quality piece of work. even my mennonite parents, who have heard us speak of theOOZE but who don't really get what it is, looked through the book. they were over to visit us last night. they were caught by the fact that their 2 daughters and their granddaughter were quoted in it -- then the ideas within the book itself got their attention. we talked about calvinisn and arminianism, and how both hold valuable truth for our lives. this very idea of the synthesis of previously opposing theologies, personifies the tenor of this book, and of the conversations at theOOZE. i believe this sort of thinking is central to the future of the church. it's well worth your money. and i'm not a person who spends much money on books. ecclesiastes says 'of the making of many books, there is no end.' but this is one book that stands out from the rest.

For the past couple of years I have been searching for a book that could help others understand where I'm comming from. Most books I have read on the subject of the Postmodern church have either been too narrow in scope, or too smug in tone. Spencer has achieved something in this book that few others are able to do; that is to bridge the gap between current and future leaders in the church. His use of metaphor transcendes the traditional turf wars we often fall into, and helps to create a new common ground. I highly recommend this book for anyone interested in the conversation, whether your are a long time participant or listening in for the first time.