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Markets Never Forget (But People Do): How Your Memory Is Costing You Money-and Why This Time Isn't Different [Hardcover]

Kenneth L. Fisher , Lara Hoffmans
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November 8, 2011
Sir John Templeton, legendary investor, was famous for saying, "The four most dangerous words in investing are, 'This time it's different.'" He knew that though history doesn't repeat, not exactly, history is an excellent guide for investors.

In Markets Never Forget But People Do: How Your Memory Is Costing You Money and Why This Time Isn't Different, long-time Forbes columnist, CEO of Fisher Investments, and 4-time New York Times bestselling author Ken Fisher shows how and why investors' memories fail them—and how costly that can be. More important, he shows steps investors can take to begin reducing errors they repeatedly make. The past is never indicative of the future, but history can be one powerful guide in shaping forward looking expectations. Readers can learn how to see the world more clearly—and learn to make fewer errors—by understanding just a bit of investing past.


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Q&A with Author Ken Fisher
Author Ken Fisher

You start the book with Sir Templeton’s famous quote, "The four most expensive words in the English language are, ;This time it’s different.'" Is "this time" ever different?
History doesn't repeat, not exactly. And the past cannot predict the future, but it is one good tool in determining if something is reasonable to expect. Investing is a probabilities game, not a certainties game. Nothing is certain in investing—all you can do is determine what a range of reasonable probabilities are.

In the same way, it's not a possibilities game. It’s possible the world gets hit by an asteroid and destroys life as we know it, but the far greater probability is no such terrible thing happens.

You can't develop a portfolio strategy around endless possibilities. You wouldn't even get out of bed if you considered everything that could possibly happen. Instead, as I show in the book, you can use history as one tool for shaping reasonable probabilities. Then, you look at the world of economic, sentiment and political drivers to determine what's most likely to happen—while always knowing you can be and will be wrong a lot.

You say bull markets are inherently above average. How so?
I interact with a lot of investors. And, amazingly, even many professionals don't get this—bull market returns are inherently above average. Most people get that long-term, stocks average between 9% and 10%. But that’s an average and bakes in big up years and big down years.

I show in the book annual bull market returns on average have about doubled the market’s long-term annual average. And early bull market returns historically have been even bigger. All that means is long-term investors can and should expect to experience downside. But if you’re long-term growth oriented and remain disciplined to a good strategy appropriate for you, downside gets swamped by the bigger and longer periods of market upside.

Stocks rise much more than they fall—I show this in the book. Yet people focus much more on downside, so they forget.

You say "ideology is deadly" in investing, but don't a lot of people prefer one political party over another?
Sure. Personally, I don't cotton to either major party. But most people do tend to have one party they like. That’s fine and normal. Where it becomes problematic is letting your party preference color your market views. Then, too, there are some profitable patterns investors may miss if they are blinded by ideology and don’t use history to overcome that.

One example, in 2012, we either re-elect Obama, a Democrat, or newly elect a Republican. If you have a strong alliance to one party or the other, you likely think it's good if your guy wins, but bad if the other guy wins. But if you check history, you know either outcome has typically been good for stocks. When we re-elect a Democrat, stocks have averaged 14.5%, but when we newly elect a Republican, they average 18.8% in the election year. I explain why in the book.

People's ideology blinds them. And because they don't remember even recent history, they don't remember this major pattern happening right in front of them.

Right now, many fear the next 10 years may end up looking like the 2000s, overall pretty flat. What do you say to people concerned about a "lost decade"?
They are fearful of something that’s never happened before in the US, not once. Those are bad odds to bet on.

First, making a forecast for a 10-year period ahead is close to impossible. In the book, I explain why. But briefly, in the near term, demand is the primary driver of stock prices because supply doesn’t move enough to matter. Longer term, supply shifts swamp everything else. And you can't make a 10-year forecast unless you know something about where stock supply will head 8, 9 and 10 years from now. I've never seen anyone even begin to address that.

Most important, flat or down 10-year periods for US stocks are historically rare. Then, too, every single 10-year period that followed was not only positive, but strongly positive. Can you get two back-to-back negative 10-year periods? Sure—but you better have a darn good reason why the period ahead will so strongly buck the odds. And you better have some new technology for forecasting 10-year returns because I’ve never seen one that has worked consistently.


From the Inside Flap

Why do so many investors make the same mistakes repeatedly—being too bullish or too bearish at just the wrong times? Because they forget. Forgetting pain is an instinct—humans have evolved that way to better cope with the problems of survival. But for the complex and often counterintuitive world of investing, it causes serious errors.

"This time it's different" are the four most expensive words in the English language (according to investing legend Sir John Templeton). Yet many investors routinely fall into the trap of thinking "now" (whenever "now" is) is different somehow. In Markets Never Forget (But People Do): How Your Memory Is Costing You Money—and Why This Time Isn't Different, four-time New York Times bestselling author Ken Fisher shows readers how their memories play (often costly) tricks on them—and how they can combat their faulty memories with just a bit of history.

This isn't to say history repeats itself perfectly. It doesn't—but a recession is a recession. Some are vastly worse than others—but investors have lived through them before. Credit crises aren't new, nor are bear markets—or bull markets. Geopolitical tension is as old as mankind, as is war and even terrorist attacks. Understanding how investors have reacted to similar past events can help guide investors in shaping better forward-looking expectations. The past never predicts the future, but it can reduce guesswork about what's ahead.

In this book, Fisher takes aim at some major market memory mishaps—like the idea stocks have become inherently more volatile or that wildly above- or below-average returns are abnormal. He shows how, early in every recovery, investors don't believe in it—often at a huge cost. And he shows how, in investing, ideology is deadly. Most important, he teaches how you can use history as one powerful tool to help begin reducing your error rate and help begin getting better investing results.


Product Details

  • Hardcover: 240 pages
  • Publisher: Wiley; 1 edition (November 8, 2011)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 111809154X
  • ISBN-13: 978-1118091548
  • Product Dimensions: 6.5 x 0.8 x 9.4 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (15 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #140,882 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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50 of 54 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars FIsher and Hoffmans Go Data Mining Again November 14, 2011
Format:Hardcover
Using historical data, the authors adequately identify behavioral conflicts stemming from the clash between emotion and financial facts. As investors swing from the pendulum of fear and greed, it becomes clear that we all own some personal biases regarding financial markets. In a quest to be our own financial hero, it is more common that we end up our own villain at the expense of performance.

If you love and seek an interesting view on hard data and facts, you should enjoy this book. It is a unique assembly of financial history with an emphasis on U.S. equity markets. The application of financial history allows the authors to demonstrate how susceptible we are to flawed behavioral finance actions. To be more precise; if you enjoyed the writing style and content of any of Ken Fisher's previous books, you should expect to enjoy and value this book.

The bad news is that this book repeats a lot of material and themes from Fisher's and Hoffmans' previous works. The good news is that this book repeats a lot of material and themes from the authors' previous works. As the title of the book appropriately implies; Markets Never Forget (But People Do), I found myself shaking my head at myself and thinking, "I should have remembered that because I read it before in their previous books", yet I did forget and was glad I was afforded a much needed reminder.

If you are looking for good nail biting non-fiction financial storytelling book a-la Michael Lewis, this isn't going to be your cup of tea. If you are looking for extremely valuable and rich financial data that is organized and summarized in a way that allows you to apply the history, you are in luck.

The book is about half the length of one of the authors' previous gems, "The Only Three Questions That Count" (2008) which was 420 pages. "Markets Never Forget" is equally as good at getting the reader to realize that they can easily be fooled by misunderstanding what historically happens MOST of the time (regardless of what we want to believe emotionally or politically).

I expect students of history to enjoy this book tremendously and there are outstanding nuggets that I would even consider "required reading and understanding" if you are a financial advisor, portfolio manager or serious individual investor who is attempting to be a better longer-term investor (as opposed to shorter term trader).

If great books transcend multiple languages, this book may not pass the muster. I am a fan of Ken Fisher and understand that; he has an investment approach/perspective that is longer term in nature (stocks do better than bonds), investing is a probabilities game and not a certainties game, and he is an optimist/never a Debbie-downer (although I'd imagine it would be tough to be a pessimist in life if you were a billionaire money manager on the Forbes 400 list...). I don't believe Japanese investors would subscribe to the same level of equity euphoria as Fisher, nor do I believe European investors at the moment would be quite as willing to accept the same level of optimism of their investing and economic future as the authors do their own. Although with the addition of an extra chapter or two regarding Fisher's views on capitalism, socialism and politics, the book could then become recommended reading in countries that speak French, Spanish, Greek, or Italian.

The data, the examples, and the organized structure of the behavioral finance issues discussed are 5 star worthy. The writing style, storytelling, and entertaining qualities of the book are 3 stars (if you would use Michael Lewis or Andrew Ross Sorkin as 5-star benchmarks). I consider it "enjoyable required reading" rather than "fast entertaining reading."

If you don't understand and grasp the unique, original, and insightful historical references in this book and his former books, you may be doing yourself a disservice to your long term investing potential. It's hard not to love anybody that has been a stock studying junkie for 40 years like Fisher.
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13 of 17 people found the following review helpful
By Jackal
Format:Hardcover
The key message of this book is that history repeats itself, but that the patterns are of so long duration that human beings fail to notice. The author has made this point before, but the value of this book lies in the examples (and maybe repeating the message).

TARGET AUDIENCE
It is an interesting reading if you follow the financial markets rather closely (at least a couple of times per week). The book is full of facts (mostly about returns) and that is why I don't think you will appreciate the book if you do not follow the financial markets closely.

CONTENT
The content of the book is good, but quite shallow. The author spends way too much time debunking uninformed newspaper headings. That would have been all-right if he would have added some more subtle points as well. The book has eight chapters and makes maybe two good points per chapter. In mind mind this is quite poor. However, the author is a proven "market guru" (see the CXO website's ranking) so the book still has value. (Ok, I am aware that somebody might object that just one good point could save you more than the price of the book.)

STYLE
The book is written in an extremely informal and verbose style. Personally, I don't have a problem with informality, but I hate verbosity. Think about the book as being somebody's verbose blog. Is there value in having the material in book form? That depends on whether you prefer reading on the screen or reading a book. However, I wish the author would have learnt from some of the blogs that write informally without being verbose and meandering.

OTHER READING
If you don't follow the markets closely, but want to read something by the author, you might give The Only Three Questions That Count: Investing by Knowing What Others Don't (Fisher Investments Press) a try. However, that book is even more verbose than the current books.
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8 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Healthy reading December 4, 2011
By Hugo
Format:Hardcover|Amazon Verified Purchase
Read Ken Fisher's books is a refreshing experience. First of all, he is funny and when someone is funny you can read four times faster (in fact english is not my language and I read his books in a few hours).

Also is a great market historian. When he talks, he is not guessing like 95% of people, he just put the facts in front of you. He is not dogmatic or follower of a dogmatic economic school. He loves capitalism but is not blind to recognize debt is not bad for equities.

Is true, this book brings a lot of elements from previous books. Probably he use books as promotional tools for his investment company...but ¿who cares? What he say in this book must be repeated a hundred times because you see "gurus", "pundits" and other any kind of expert all day talking about the dangers of the deficit, the debt or other things that Fisher demonstrate are just nonsense. Everyday I say thank you to Fisher cause I can read the newspapers and listen to pundits and exercise my own criteria without falling in the trap of "conventional non-checked wisdom".

Make yourself a favor and buy this book inmediatly. You will save a lot of money.
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5.0 out of 5 stars pretty good
I like Ken Fisher's approach to investing based on data. It gives you a good idea about how 'common sense' in financial media can be really wrong sometimes.
Published 1 day ago by Jack London
5.0 out of 5 stars My vote for the best investment book of 2011
If you like reading about investing, you're going to love this book. I took it with me on a holiday to Sri Lanka, and couldn't put it down. Read more
Published 18 days ago by Andrew Hallam
4.0 out of 5 stars Interpreting the world for investing.
Fisher runs an investment advisory firm, is a columnist for Forbes and makes The Forbes billionaire list, so he is a very successful investor. Read more
Published 2 months ago by B. Pankuch
4.0 out of 5 stars Behavioural Finance from a practitioner's perspective
Many years ago money manager Ken Fisher with Super Stocks wrote one of the few useful books on GARP-investing. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Markets never forget(but people do)
no comment although the person I bought it for said she liked it very much and she said she would purchase another one.
Published 4 months ago by Ralph H Blum
4.0 out of 5 stars Markets Never Forget
Ken Fisher delivers sound investing advice in this book. He provides reason and evidence based antidotes to prevelent irrational ideas about capital markets. Read more
Published 7 months ago by C. William Hill
5.0 out of 5 stars Book tells a lot of truth about the world markets
This is one of the best books I have read. Ken Fisher, a great investor takes on topics many investors fail to realize or admit to. Read more
Published 8 months ago by Johnny D
1.0 out of 5 stars Not impressed
If anyone has money with Ken Fisher of Fisher Investments, they know how badly Ken has played the last 4 years. He may talk a good game, but his portfolios are another story. Read more
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I first became familiar with Ken Fisher though Marc Pearlman's radio show 'Your Money Matters' [...]. Read more
Published 9 months ago by Bruce
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent!
Ken Fisher offers another great read. As always, he provides the reader with a lot of data and history insights that support a well balanced perspective on financial markets.
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